On Monday 14 December 2009 05:46:11 Chris Wilkinson wrote:
There could have been any number of better ways to express the version
number, but they chose to use one that can combine more than one decimal
place into what looks to a lay person like a mistyped number... not
clever.
Well they
Alan Teeder wrote:
I am no longer seeing the first two bugs which seem to have been sorted
out this week, but do have a similar problem with sound. See my thread
with Eric.
Is this something I need to look after or is it a matter of finding the
proper compile options?
Erik
I don't think anything wrong with the MAJOR.MINOR.PATCHLEVEL format, I
think it's fairly obvious, and is widely used. I'm not a huge fan of
rolling over into double digits though, unless you started with double
digits to begin with. For example 1.09 to 1.10 is logical to me, but
1.9.1 to 1.10 is
Durk wrote:
On Sunday 13 December 2009 10:16:24 pm Stuart Buchanan wrote:
A clear statement would
a) provide a good reference point for any further discussion outside of the
community, rather than various people making different comments.
b) be visible enough to Google so that
On 14 Dec 2009, at 11:11, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
I'd appreciate feedback, even if it is only to agree with the wording of the
statement, to ensure that we have buy-in for this.
FlightGear is a open-source flight simulator that was started in 2006. It is
released under
the GNU General
Erik wrote
Alan Teeder wrote:
I am no longer seeing the first two bugs which seem to have been sorted
out this week, but do have a similar problem with sound. See my thread
with Eric.
Is this something I need to look after or is it a matter of finding the
proper compile options?
On 12/13/2009 11:29 PM, Durk Talsma wrote:
FWIW, as per previous agreement, I've started investigating how much effort
it
is going to cost to remove the ai-code altogether. There are a few places
where the existing code depends on ATCDCL functions. Isolating these
shouldn't
be too
Hi there,
The chances of people in this mailing list misunderstanding that convention are
low, because by and large we're advocates of free software which is
predominantly released under such numbering schemes, but I feel confident I
could take that convention around the engineering office I
Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.
[Switching to Thread 0xb627aa20 (LWP 30813)]
0x0865ece2 in findcell (hr=0xeb43550, key=
{num = nan(0x567891077bfa8), ref = {ptr = {obj = 0x1077bfa8,
str = 0x1077bfa8, vec = 0x1077bfa8, hash = 0x1077bfa8, code =
0x1077bfa8, func =
What if we start naming releases in addition to the normal version
scheme. FlightGear 2.x.x name, name could be some continued
variation on a theme or something. I think that would be a nice middle
ground, we keep a meaningful versioning scheme, and also get a catchy
name for everyone. I've worked
Hi,
I've got a question about the navaids, particularly nav.dat.
Is nav.dat supposed to be updated from robin X-plane database?
The french missing navaids I submited to robin ( approach locators ) are
included in recent nav.dat from X-plane, and I was waiting them to come
in Flightgear, but
Salut Jean,
jean pellotier wrote:
Is nav.dat supposed to be updated from robin X-plane database?
If nobody else is going to do that, I'll be updating the file from
Robin's most current package during our pre-release phase (however this
is going to be defined ).
here's a diff toward our
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com wrote:
Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.
[Switching to Thread 0xb627aa20 (LWP 30813)]
0x0865ece2 in findcell (hr=0xeb43550, key=
{num = nan(0x567891077bfa8), ref = {ptr = {obj = 0x1077bfa8,
str =
Hi Stuart,
just one minor nit (aside the one wrt. the date of birth), there's a
useless blank here:
be downloaded for free from http:// www.flightgear.org.
^^^
Well done !
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On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of
rolling over into double digits though, unless you started with double
digits to begin with. For example 1.09 to 1.10 is logical to me, but
1.9.1 to 1.10 is not, I would expect 1.9.1 to be the
Not sure what you meant about gdb generating code to cause it, I get
the same error when run outside of gdb. Assembly of the function
below, if you need something else let me know.
0x0865ec50 findcell+0:push %ebp
0x0865ec51 findcell+1:mov%esp,%ebp
0x0865ec53 findcell+3:
Well, since this was a GPS-related thread, I decided to post this here instead
of creating another thread :-)
The zkv500's Turnpoint screen works properly now. However, the navigation
display won't show the distance to the waypoint.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure what you meant about gdb generating code to cause it, I get
the same error when run outside of gdb. Assembly of the function
below, if you need something else let me know.
I meant gcc, sorry :)
Thanks for the
Hi,
On Dec 14, 2009, at 7:18 AM, James Turner wrote:
One observation - the intention, at least mine and Tim's, is to move to
quarterly releases, so I have no intention of 'finishing' the route manager
for a particular release. (Regular release cycles take the pressure of
rushing to
I applied your hash patch, but no deuce.
Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.
[Switching to Thread 0xb62cba20 (LWP 25297)]
0x0865f79c in findcell (hr=0x107b5490, key=
{num = nan(0x56789123dabd8), ref = {ptr = {obj = 0x123dabd8,
str = 0x123dabd8, vec = 0x123dabd8, hash =
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com wrote:
I applied your hash patch, but no deuce.
Then I have no idea why the code is loading the value.
Got a new asm listing? :)
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Dump of assembler code for function findcell:
0x0865f710 findcell+0:push %ebp
0x0865f711 findcell+1:mov%esp,%ebp
0x0865f713 findcell+3:push %edi
0x0865f714 findcell+4:xor%edi,%edi
0x0865f716 findcell+6:push %esi
0x0865f717 findcell+7:
Thank you pointing this, I haven't seen it. Here is the patch to correct
the mistake.
Thanks in advance to commit it.
best regards
seb
Victhor Foster wrote :
Well, since this was a GPS-related thread, I decided to post this here instead
of creating another thread :-)
The zkv500's Turnpoint
The recent change which makes a string from the simgear version breaks
FG configure.
I don't think introducing an incompatible change to the version macro
is a good idea.
Erik, can you explain why you made the change? I am aware that FG's
own version is a string, so I am guessing that might have
It is strange that I am the only one reporting this fault, but it is still
there.
On both my Vista laptop and the XP box it fails if run from Visual C++ 2008
with Debug - Start Debugging.
On the Vista laptop it also fails if I run the release build from fgrun ,
but only if sound is enabled.
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:37:44 +0100, jean wrote in message
4b22c9b8.6050...@wanadoo.fr:
Vivian Meazza a écrit :
Geoff,
I agree with all you have said, but would add the following:
The reset bug has been sorted.
The crash-on-exit bug has probably been sorted, but I haven’t had
Csaba Halász wrote:
The recent change which makes a string from the simgear version breaks
FG configure.
I don't think introducing an incompatible change to the version macro
is a good idea.
Erik, can you explain why you made the change? I am aware that FG's
own version is a string, so I am
On 12/14/2009 10:30 AM, Erik Hofman wrote:
Csaba Halász wrote:
The recent change which makes a string from the simgear version breaks
FG configure.
I don't think introducing an incompatible change to the version macro
is a good idea.
Erik, can you explain why you made the change? I am aware
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:54 PM, John Denker j...@av8n.com wrote:
I tested it. It works fine chez moi.
make clean ; ./configure --lots-of-options ; make
Can somebody say in more detail what the problem is?
I can't even find anywhere it is used within simgear.
It is used in the *flightgear*
It's a NaN! Sorry :)
So now we know where all these NaN errors have been coming from! ;-)
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On 12/14/2009 11:08 AM, Csaba Halász wrote:
It is used in the *flightgear* configure.ac script. FG can't find
simgear anymore because it can't parse the version. Easy to fix there
but maybe other projects (such as terragear or fgrun) also depend on
it.
A fully-compatible fix is attached
Here's another way of getting the job done.
This is tidier in the sense that it leaves simgear unchanged.
commit cd0af70c868210f46584a1e5e922364b9f2e63ce
Author: John Denker j...@av8n.com
Date: Mon Dec 14 11:50:53 2009 -0700
Print SIMGEAR_VERSION as a string, even though it doesn't come
Alan Teeder wrote:
VC90 build is very out of date and quite few new files and libraries have to
be added.
Honestly try to stay away from the build files, mainly because I have no
way to test them. I might completely break building for MSVC and note
even know it (typo's are made easily).
If
I hate to be the one to shout about bad English, but FlightGear is
either 'Free', or you can download it 'for nothing'. Please don't say
'for free'.
Cheers,
Vic
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On Monday 14 December 2009 12:11:15 pm Stuart Buchanan wrote:
I think one statement can easily be used for both purposes if written
appropriately.
Agreed. That's actually what I was thinking of.
I'd appreciate feedback, even if it is only to agree with the wording of
the statement, to
Thanks to everyone who's commented so far:
Vic Marriott wrote:
I hate to be the one to shout about bad English, but FlightGear is
either 'Free', or you can download it 'for nothing'. Please don't say
'for free'.
I think for nothing could have negative connotations. How about at no cost?
I think if we are deigning to say Investigation by a number of the FlightGear
developers has found no difference between this and the FlightGear v1.9.1
release other than a change of name.; then I also think that after Under the
GNU GPL v2 (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html), this is
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:24:23 +0100, Durk wrote in message
200912142224.24136.d.tal...@xs4all.nl:
On Monday 14 December 2009 12:11:15 pm Stuart Buchanan wrote:
I think one statement can easily be used for both purposes if
written appropriately.
Agreed. That's actually what I was
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:30:50 + (GMT), Stuart wrote in message
724039.15837...@web26006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com:
Q: Is it legal for the makers of Flight Pro Sim to simply re-brand
FlightGear ? A: Yes. Under the GNU GPL v2
..have you guys decide _against_ GPLv3 and GPLv2-and-later
and instead
On 12/14/2009 02:30 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote in part:
Q: Is is legal to sell a copy of FlightGear, whether re-branded or not ?
A:
Yes. Technically, the purchaser is paying for the distribution of the
Since we are not lawyers here, I would shy away from answering
bluntly yes to a legal
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 21:30 +, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
Being really really picky with English, the opening statement uses
the word heavily too often; it's not good style. As a suggestion of
replacement, perhaps;
As many people will be aware, there is a new flight simulator product
that is
Status summary:
0) I merged in Jester's nan-fixes. That was easy:
git remote add -t nan-fixes jester
git://gitorious.org/~jester/fg/jesters-clone.git
git pull jester
make
I have not explicitly disabled real-weather-fetch, but
it appears to be non-enabled by default.
The
2009/12/15 Scott Hamilton scott.hamil...@popplanet.biz:
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 21:30 +, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
Being really really picky with English, the opening statement uses the
word heavily too often; it's not good style. As a suggestion of
replacement, perhaps;
As many people
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:46 AM, John Denker j...@av8n.com wrote:
Status summary:
0) I merged in Jester's nan-fixes. That was easy:
git remote add -t nan-fixes jester
git://gitorious.org/~jester/fg/jesters-clone.git
git pull jester
make
We want GIT! We want GIT! :D
1) If I
Is nav.dat supposed to be updated from robin X-plane database?
If nobody else is going to do that, I'll be updating the file from
Robin's most current package during our pre-release phase (however this
is going to be defined ).
Can't the data be commited to CVS now ?
pete
I just wanted to drop a note I will be contacting the Software Freedom Law
Center - http://www.softwarefreedom.org - on behalf of FlightGear.
If you have any questions, comments or concerns please don't hesitate to email
me -off the list-.
Cheers
John
Don't know if this has been mentioned before:
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/3d_resources/3d-models-gallery.html
Jon
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