Re: [Flightgear-devel] Navaids FIX data with duplicates entries
Yes, SBGL is in APT.DAT but the FIX around is not in FIX.DAT ( Like FICO, PERES ) And there duplicates entries in X-Plane data too, i have send mail for Robin check it, but FIX of around SBGL airport is in X-Plane but not in Flightgear. Tks, Cleber K. Hoercher [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 03:42:05PM +0100, Pietro wrote: At Thursday 07 February 2008 15:28:55 Cleber Santz wrote: One more thing, some FIX that find in X-Plane navaid data not appers in FlightGear ( FIX for SBGL airport for example ), is not the same database ? Well I checked LEPAS and HARDLY quickly in another source, and there are several of them too. Although the real world authorities strive for uniqueness, they cannot and do not guarantee so. Short of errors or oversights on the part of Robin Peel, his (thus X-Plane's and in turn our) navaids data does reflect this accurately. Also SBGL Galeão Antonio Carlos Jombim is to be found in apt.dat.gz and looks alright to me. Hi, AFAIK the fgfs navaids files have been converted from X-plane data files, but alas, years ago and therefore they are outdated. Pietro The last update was somehow shortly before the relase of 1.0.0, and taking into account the mentioned possible errors/delays it should be up-to-date within reasonable limits, although not following the very latest AIRAC cycle. regards K. Hoercher - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento! - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Navaids FIX data with duplicates entries
On 02/07/2008 07:28 AM, Cleber Santz wrote: I have trace same routes using waypoints and find many duplicates entries in FIX Data ( like LEPAS, HARDY ) with different coordinates, thats is correct ? 1) That is a correct observation, there are duplicate fixes. That includes named waypoints, VORs, et cetera. 2) This is *not* a bug in the database. Complaining to Robin about it would be a step in the wrong direction. 3) Real-world pilots and real-world navigation instruments resolve the ambiguity by choosing the _nearest_ one of the possibilities. 4) This *is* a bug in the stock version of the FGFS code, in the sense that it is not smart about duplicate fixes. 5) This bug was fixed eons ago in the Sport Model. See item 31 on the list at http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/README.sport.model - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Navaids FIX data with duplicates entries
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 03:42:05PM +0100, Pietro wrote: At Thursday 07 February 2008 15:28:55 Cleber Santz wrote: One more thing, some FIX that find in X-Plane navaid data not appers in FlightGear ( FIX for SBGL airport for example ), is not the same database ? Well I checked LEPAS and HARDLY quickly in another source, and there are several of them too. Although the real world authorities strive for uniqueness, they cannot and do not guarantee so. Short of errors or oversights on the part of Robin Peel, his (thus X-Plane's and in turn our) navaids data does reflect this accurately. Also SBGL Galeão Antonio Carlos Jombim is to be found in apt.dat.gz and looks alright to me. Hi, AFAIK the fgfs navaids files have been converted from X-plane data files, but alas, years ago and therefore they are outdated. Pietro The last update was somehow shortly before the relase of 1.0.0, and taking into account the mentioned possible errors/delays it should be up-to-date within reasonable limits, although not following the very latest AIRAC cycle. regards K. Hoercher - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Navaids FIX data with duplicates entries
Hi, I have trace same routes using waypoints and find many duplicates entries in FIX Data ( like LEPAS, HARDY ) with different coordinates, thats is correct ? One more thing, some FIX that find in X-Plane navaid data not appers in FlightGear ( FIX for SBGL airport for example ), is not the same database ? Tks, Cleber Santz. Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento! http://br.mail.yahoo.com/- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Navaids FIX data with duplicates entries
At Thursday 07 February 2008 15:28:55 Cleber Santz wrote: One more thing, some FIX that find in X-Plane navaid data not appers in FlightGear ( FIX for SBGL airport for example ), is not the same database ? Hi, AFAIK the fgfs navaids files have been converted from X-plane data files, but alas, years ago and therefore they are outdated. Pietro - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
