[Flightgear-devel] Saitek radio and multifunction panels
Hi All; Is anyone working on either of these panels? I have both and I'm a C realtime, safety critical software engineer. If Someone is working on developing an interface for the panels I'd like to pitch in, if no one is can someone point me towards a good starting point? Thanks, Pat -- - If you can’t be a good example, then you’ll just have to be a horrible warning. -Catherine -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Saitek radio and multifunction panels
Hi Pat, Just a quick reply. I think the hardest part will be reading the actual hardware. If that's easy (can it be done in a cross platform way?) then if the hardware presents itself similar to a joystick, it would simply be a matter of connecting up the buttons and axis with the appropriate property values via a joystick config file. It's probably not that easy, but the long pole in the tent from my perspective would be reading the switch/button/dial values off the actual hardware. If you can do that, I'm sure we can find a straightforward way to bridge the connection to flightgear. Thanks, Curt. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM, not a webot not.we...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All; Is anyone working on either of these panels? I have both and I'm a C realtime, safety critical software engineer. If Someone is working on developing an interface for the panels I'd like to pitch in, if no one is can someone point me towards a good starting point? Thanks, Pat -- - If you can’t be a good example, then you’ll just have to be a horrible warning. -Catherine -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Saitek radio and multifunction panels
Hi, Also just a quick note from me. At the last FSWeekend, I got a sample radio panel from the Saitek Guys. IIRC, James Turner is/has been working on providing some of the groundwork and we agreed that while he was doing that, I'd put my efforts on getting the device working on hold. It's been a while ago since we last chatted about this, so I'm not really sure what the current status is. Cheers, Durk On 09 Jul 2013, at 20:02, Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Pat, Just a quick reply. I think the hardest part will be reading the actual hardware. If that's easy (can it be done in a cross platform way?) then if the hardware presents itself similar to a joystick, it would simply be a matter of connecting up the buttons and axis with the appropriate property values via a joystick config file. It's probably not that easy, but the long pole in the tent from my perspective would be reading the switch/button/dial values off the actual hardware. If you can do that, I'm sure we can find a straightforward way to bridge the connection to flightgear. Thanks, Curt. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM, not a webot not.we...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All; Is anyone working on either of these panels? I have both and I'm a C realtime, safety critical software engineer. If Someone is working on developing an interface for the panels I'd like to pitch in, if no one is can someone point me towards a good starting point? Thanks, Pat -- - If you can’t be a good example, then you’ll just have to be a horrible warning. -Catherine -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Saitek radio and multifunction panels
The multifunction panel shows up in lsusb, and there is an entry in the /dev/input that corresponds to the panel. I've decoded all the switches but I'm not clear how to interface an event to FG. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Durk Talsma durkt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Also just a quick note from me. At the last FSWeekend, I got a sample radio panel from the Saitek Guys. IIRC, James Turner is/has been working on providing some of the groundwork and we agreed that while he was doing that, I'd put my efforts on getting the device working on hold. It's been a while ago since we last chatted about this, so I'm not really sure what the current status is. Cheers, Durk On 09 Jul 2013, at 20:02, Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Pat, Just a quick reply. I think the hardest part will be reading the actual hardware. If that's easy (can it be done in a cross platform way?) then if the hardware presents itself similar to a joystick, it would simply be a matter of connecting up the buttons and axis with the appropriate property values via a joystick config file. It's probably not that easy, but the long pole in the tent from my perspective would be reading the switch/button/dial values off the actual hardware. If you can do that, I'm sure we can find a straightforward way to bridge the connection to flightgear. Thanks, Curt. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM, not a webot not.we...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All; Is anyone working on either of these panels? I have both and I'm a C realtime, safety critical software engineer. If Someone is working on developing an interface for the panels I'd like to pitch in, if no one is can someone point me towards a good starting point? Thanks, Pat -- - If you can’t be a good example, then you’ll just have to be a horrible warning. -Catherine -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- - If you can’t be a good example, then you’ll just have to be a horrible warning. -Catherine -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Saitek radio and multifunction panels
On 9 Jul 2013, at 20:54, Durk Talsma durkt...@gmail.com wrote: Also just a quick note from me. At the last FSWeekend, I got a sample radio panel from the Saitek Guys. IIRC, James Turner is/has been working on providing some of the groundwork and we agreed that while he was doing that, I'd put my efforts on getting the device working on hold. It's been a while ago since we last chatted about this, so I'm not really sure what the current status is. I've done some work on it, and will return to it once 2.12 is shipped. (My interest is in supporting the GoFlight hardware, which I've purchased several modules of, but it's all USB-HID in the end) The issue is basically about finishing Torsten Dreyer's event-input code, but also about potentially making that use hidapi (which would greatly simplify the code on the FG side), /if/ I can get the hidapi author to accept a patch adding HID descriptor parsing to the library as an extra. I've also separately had my GoFlight hardware working on Mac using the existing Mac event-input code, but encountered some issues, to do with the rate we pull data out of IOKit; essentially it's too easy to miss events which for certain inputs on the GoFlight panels (rotary encoders) causes odd behaviours. So yes, lots of these pieces exist, it needs some integration work and further development after 2.12. Torsten's current code is also incompatible with the current joystick config XML, which I think probably needs to be addressed in an adapter layer. Regards, James-- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Saitek radio and multifunction panels
Where would I find the event-input code? If HIDAPI makes more sense I could start looking at getting the panel recognized, where would me efforts be most productive? Pat On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:26 PM, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 9 Jul 2013, at 20:54, Durk Talsma durkt...@gmail.com wrote: Also just a quick note from me. At the last FSWeekend, I got a sample radio panel from the Saitek Guys. IIRC, James Turner is/has been working on providing some of the groundwork and we agreed that while he was doing that, I'd put my efforts on getting the device working on hold. It's been a while ago since we last chatted about this, so I'm not really sure what the current status is. I've done some work on it, and will return to it once 2.12 is shipped. (My interest is in supporting the GoFlight hardware, which I've purchased several modules of, but it's all USB-HID in the end) The issue is basically about finishing Torsten Dreyer's event-input code, but also about potentially making that use hidapi (which would greatly simplify the code on the FG side), /if/ I can get the hidapi author to accept a patch adding HID descriptor parsing to the library as an extra. I've also separately had my GoFlight hardware working on Mac using the existing Mac event-input code, but encountered some issues, to do with the rate we pull data out of IOKit; essentially it's too easy to miss events which for certain inputs on the GoFlight panels (rotary encoders) causes odd behaviours. So yes, lots of these pieces exist, it needs some integration work and further development after 2.12. Torsten's current code is also incompatible with the current joystick config XML, which I think probably needs to be addressed in an adapter layer. Regards, James -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- - If you can’t be a good example, then you’ll just have to be a horrible warning. -Catherine -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
