Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adds on FlightGear.org
I realize this is not a satisfactory response for some people, but I have added downloadmanagerapp.com to the list of blocked sites. Thanks, Curt. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Anders Gidenstam anders-...@gidenstam.orgwrote: On Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Curt, are you there? Repeating the links in case you missed them: http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?13546-FlightGear-v2-10-Is-Released#comments http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?260718-FlightGear-2-10-is-now-available-!p=1747315#post1747315 When I look at our main page I see Google chooses to display a very big fat green download button for some crud software in the ad-slot that is slightly to the left but otherwise right in the middle of the page. And another one further down. It looks ugly and could confuse the unwary. If it is not possible to be more restrictive on what ads to show (and even if that can be done I'm sure the guys paying for these sort of ads would do their best to by-pass any such restriction) then IMO the ads should go. Maybe the text ads could stay but the big blobs - no, thank you. Is the hosting really that expensive that we can't raise enough donations to cover it? (I have to admit I have not donated to FG, though.) Cheers, Anders -- --- Anders Gidenstam WWW: http://gitorious.org/anders-hangar http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/ -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adds on FlightGear.org
Curt, are you there? Repeating the links in case you missed them: http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?13546-FlightGear-v2-10-Is-Released#comments http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?260718-FlightGear-2-10-is-now-available-!p=1747315#post1747315 Thanks! Gijs -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adds on FlightGear.org
Anders Gidenstam wrote : If it is not possible to be more restrictive on what ads to show (and even if that can be done I'm sure the guys paying for these sort of ads would do their best to by-pass any such restriction) then IMO the ads should go. Maybe the text ads could stay but the big blobs - no, thank you. I'm agreed with your opinion, ads should go in this case. Is the hosting really that expensive that we can't raise enough donations to cover it? (I have to admit I have not donated to FG, though.) I'm pretty sure that if some of us makes a donation, we could be able to cover hosting costs. Let us know how many, and we could try to organize a donations campaign. If it's necessary. Cheers, Clément -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adds on FlightGear.org
On 02/23/2013 11:13 AM, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi all, I won't ask for the adds to be removed (apparently that is not possible), but I do want to bring the result of that decision under your attention. Is this really what we want? One quick option would be to move the navigation bar below the FligthGear banner (and just above the add and image gallery). But I agree, it looks a bit messy now. Erik -- http://www.adalin.com - Hardware accelerated AeonWave and OpenAL for Windows and Linux -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adds on FlightGear.org
Hi Gijs, et al., Slowly coming back to FlightGear land, now that my deadline is met. :-) Yes, I think that this is undesirable. Having adds inside the content area of a website is usually considered to be poor design, from a usability perspective. I don't mind if we have some adds on the top, or on the right side of the page. The current layout is confusing. Cheers, Durk On 23 Feb 2013, at 11:13, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi all, I won't ask for the adds to be removed (apparently that is not possible), but I do want to bring the result of that decision under your attention. Is this really what we want? http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?13546-FlightGear-v2-10-Is-Released#comments http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?260718-FlightGear-2-10-is-now-available-!p=1747315#post1747315 Cheers, Gijs -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adds on FlightGear.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/23/2013 11:26 AM, Durk Talsma wrote: Hi Gijs, et al., Slowly coming back to FlightGear land, now that my deadline is met. :-) Yes, I think that this is undesirable. Having adds inside the content area of a website is usually considered to be poor design, from a usability perspective. I don't mind if we have some adds on the top, or on the right side of the page. The current layout is confusing. Cheers, Durk On 23 Feb 2013, at 11:13, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi all, I won't ask for the adds to be removed (apparently that is not possible), but I do want to bring the result of that decision under your attention. Is this really what we want? http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?13546-FlightGear-v2-10-Is-Released#comments http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?260718-FlightGear-2-10-is-now-available-!p=1747315#post1747315 Cheers, Gijs -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEorbcACgkQty+BhcbHvXgI5ACeNSEUN6W457APhy3+OlQNOqC3 94IAoNMUEjzmTZ32HX23SlRoxVN0G7Ag =Nyuf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adds on FlightGear.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for empty message. Here it is. :) Here is now an alternative tracker (I also track my FGFS-related torrents to the original + in addition to my tracker) for all BitTorrent download: http://flightgear.mxchange.org:23456/ Just click on the links you want to download. As someone complained about low download speeds from HTTP/FTP (?) servers, I currently download the setup.exe file with my Internet connection here and have ~600-900 kByte/sec. download speed, quite acceptable. :) I have tested the Windows installer (InfoHash: 3cdd600202344f578809a7c3c9b9e0a0bf7bf1ed), it only install OpenAL and was ads-free. So they might have downloaded it somewhere else where that hoster has added some ads and free offers to the installer. :( This however can be beaten by adding signatures as I have heard. Regards, Roland -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEosLUACgkQty+BhcbHvXgevwCfSS0gkwqMBcwk0RGHgBb5D1EK g+AAoMnGuendhvZqLn8l3uzc7XAuAZHS =olLx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adds on FlightGear.org
Hi Gijs, De : Gijs de Rooy gijsr...@hotmail.com Envoyé le : Samedi 23 février 2013 11h13 I won't ask for the adds to be removed (apparently that is not possible), but I do want to bring the result of that decision under your attention. Is this really what we want? Using Adblock for years, I enjoy browsing the web ad-free. But sure the confusion is really bad. I understand that Google ads enables us to pay for the domain name, right+hosting, right? Olivier -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adds on FlightGear.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/23/2013 03:50 PM, Olivier wrote: Hi Gijs, *De :* Gijs de Rooy gijsr...@hotmail.com *Envoyé le :* Samedi 23 février 2013 11h13 ** I won't ask for the adds to be removed (apparently that is not possible), but I do want to bring the result of that decision under your attention. Is this really what we want? Using Adblock for years, I enjoy browsing the web ad-free. But sure the confusion is really bad. I understand that Google ads enables us to pay for the domain name, right+hosting, right? Olivier Hello Oliver and Gijs, I can pay my server (root access, not shared with others) from my small money I get here + domains. That is always payable. :) So my non-profit software pages are all free of ads. Please don't get confused with some banners I have placed there, they don't give me money for linking them. Roland -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEo3HYACgkQty+BhcbHvXiRvwCcCl/GoRalDnTS5+g1hcPQodtw 2IgAnRWw/5mQe66nVVLWn9ukqFGL3W3O =Zhlm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
