Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:28:24 +1300, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Arnt, well you lost me just after chk your light 'n color settings, I click on the link and it opens it up in another browser window (Using win32 Firefox v1.0.7). As for I hook links2 to my mail client and found it waaay too dark that one passed over at about 5,000ft agl. :-) .. :o) I sometimes forget about people stuck in quagmires like Wintendo, links2 is quickest one of 25 or so web browser, I just middleclick url's in my mail client and view them in links2. ;o) ..color settings vary a _lot_ between boxes because we humans are different and tend to use different methods to adjust things to our liking, introducing waaay dark FG screenshots in my case. :o) My original post was meant as a light-hearted joke.. no reflection on Durk's work that I have the utmost admiration for, both in scope and productivity . I was thinking about it this morning and thought... well red is going to look like the earth's bleeding, blue is going to get lost in the background, green...well people might be eating while they're reading this so i'll refrain from saying what that'd look like...came to the conclusion that magenta might be the only color that won't get confused !! :- Cheers =Dene From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:27:40 +0100 On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:48:38 +1300, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Durk, I don't mean to be rude, and I hope you won't take this the wrong way, but the graphic looks like someone has thrown an egg at the earth ..before drawing too many conclusions, chk your light 'n color settings, in my case I hook links2 to my mail client and found it waaay too dark. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 23:33, Christian Mayer wrote: Durk Talsma schrieb: Notice that the routing algorithm is still far from perfect, but I thought it would be fun to share some of the initial experiments with you guys... What algorthim are you using? CU, Christian The routing algorithm is based on the ground network tracing algorithm. See src/Airports/groundnet.cxx; the findShortestRoute() and trace() functions. The ground path here is stored as a series of nodes, and segments connecting each node. The trace() function is a recursive depth-first binary three search algorithm, that scans all the outbound connections from each node. The search is in principle exhaustive, but the following criteria stop the algorithm from descending further in into the tree: 1) Current node has already been visited (i.e. we're running round in circles). 2) the current node is the required end point. 3) the total length of the search path is longer than that of an already found route. The airnet routing algorithm is based on this, but many airroutes don't have direct airway to airway connections between them, so I've adapted the code split up the total route into sections and then I try to fit an airway route through each section. The last bit clearly still needs some cleaning up. Cheers, Durk --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up
On Wednesday 08 February 2006 02:59, David Megginson wrote: FYI, most countries publish preferred routes for high- and low-level flights between major centres. The Canadian publications include the North Atlantic routes as well. For example, here are the first few preferred low-level routes *from* Ottawa, Canada to various centres: Ottawa to: Aylmer (2900) YOW V300 YSO V37 YYZ V443 YQO Boston V104 MSS V141 CON CON154 KHRIS LWM Cleveland V300 YSO V37 YYZ V265 THORL ERI CXR Detroit City V300 YSO V37 YYZ V443 YQO HADAR ARRIVAL Detroit Metro-Wayne V300 YSO V37 YYZ V443 YQO SPICA ARRIVAL Detroit Willow Run V300 YSO V37 YYZ V443 YQO HADAR ARRIVAL Erie (2900) YOW V300 YSO V37 ERI Hamilton V300 YSO V37 ANCOL (2800) London V300 YSO V308 Mirabel V360 YMX MIRABEL ARRIVAL That's interesting information. I can imaging that Canada publishes the North Atlantic routes as well, considering the amount of international traffic passing through Canadian airspace. Do you know if I can download this information somewhere? Cheers, Durk --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 07:08:59PM +0100, Durk Talsma wrote: On Wednesday 08 February 2006 02:59, David Megginson wrote: FYI, most countries publish preferred routes for high- and low-level flights between major centres. The Canadian publications include the North Atlantic routes as well. Do you know if I can download this information somewhere? For the US, it is available here: http://www.fly.faa.gov/Products/Coded_Departure_Routes/NFDC_Preferred_Routes_Database/nfdc_preferred_routes_database.html Wendell --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up
On 08/02/06, Wendell Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know if I can download this information somewhere? For the US, it is available here: http://www.fly.faa.gov/Products/Coded_Departure_Routes/NFDC_Preferred_Routes_Database/nfdc_preferred_routes_database.html Most other countries, unfortunately, do not make it available free. All the best, David -- http://www.megginson.com/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:48:38 +1300, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Durk, I don't mean to be rude, and I hope you won't take this the wrong way, but the graphic looks like someone has thrown an egg at the earth ..before drawing too many conclusions, chk your light 'n color settings, in my case I hook links2 to my mail client and found it waaay too dark. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up
Hi I think this link will provide a good start for the information you want as it relates to New Zealand and the South Pacific. It has various links to more detailed information http://www.aip.net.nz/pdf/ENR_3.1.pdf =Dene From: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,Wendell Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:11:27 -0500 On 08/02/06, Wendell Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know if I can download this information somewhere? For the US, it is available here: http://www.fly.faa.gov/Products/Coded_Departure_Routes/NFDC_Preferred_Routes_Database/nfdc_preferred_routes_database.html Most other countries, unfortunately, do not make it available free. All the best, David -- http://www.megginson.com/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Read the latest Hollywood gossip @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Durk Talsma schrieb: Notice that the routing algorithm is still far from perfect, but I thought it would be fun to share some of the initial experiments with you guys... What algorthim are you using? CU, Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFD6SBHlhWtxOxWNFcRAnJMAJ91M2fUywnbzdMVnGxEq3E+YZMiMQCgkFXB 2TV21a7ZTxm5ArCY7BC0s2o= =6X64 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up
Hi Durk, I don't mean to be rude, and I hope you won't take this the wrong way, but the graphic looks like someone has thrown an egg at the earth :- I looking forward to the final results of your work as I'm sure they'll add a new reality to FlightGear. I'm in awe at how some of you guys can write visually pleasing software so fast. Cheers Dene From: Durk Talsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Airway routing heads up Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 22:22:42 +0100 Hi Guys, I just finished adding a few more hacks to my good old global airport/navaid/timezone test program, so that I can now plot the results from FlightGear's airway route tracing algorithm: http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/web/35.html Notice that the routing algorithm is still far from perfect, but I thought it would be fun to share some of the initial experiments with you guys... Cheers, Durk --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
