Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM
I'd leave to the client the task of distorting the received signal based on the distance and other environmental parameters. The server should just re-broadcast the clear signal, maybe culling over a simple range bubble. From: clem...@hotmail.fr To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 03:02:37 +0200 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM Hi Holger, I'm glad to know that FGCom integration is surprising you. It seems you have a pretty well vision of the perfect solution for radio simulation and I agree with you on this how-it-should-works. As James said, all of this is mostly based on P2P architecture which is far to be the easier things to create :) - Each client need to know the position of others clients - Each client must send a _clean_ sound signal (no distortion, no attenuation...) - Each client need to calculate the distorsion/attenuation of others clients depending of their distance (I'm callsign01; callsign02 is at 20nm from me = I can hear him loud, callsign03 is at 120nm from me = I can hear him quiet, callsign04... etc... etc...) We could also use a centralized architecture with a server which could works like: - I know the position and frequency of each clients - callsign01 is speaking on 122.50MHz - callsign02 is listening on 122.50MHz, the distance between callsign01 and callsign02 is 20nm = I send a clean signal from callsign01 to callsign02 - callsign03 is listening on 122.50MHz, the distance between callsign01 and callsign03 is 120nm = I send a distorted/attenuated signal from callsign01 to callsign02 - ... - ... I can't imagine the amount of work to create this new system. Also I have absolutely no idea where we should start if we really want (need?) this _much_ realistic system. Do you have any hint ? For sure this level of realism would be a really nice feature. But I admit I don't know if our users will be _much_more_ happy with this level of realism and they need/want this level of realism OR are they already very happy to have a simple way of communication better than a simple TeamSpeak-like application ? In this case is it necessary to work during months and months on this project ? Is it worth ? Of course if this level of realism I would be happy to use it ! But I'm not sure to be ready to work on this (big) project for only few of our pro-realistic users. But if the task is supported by some people, devs are involved, and my skills are sufficient, yes I would be part of this effort ;) Regards, Clément -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM
For those of us with certain kinds of hearing disabilities, adding any distortion or reduction in volume might make communication impossible. Our ears add an incredible amount of distortion and noise already. On top of that you wouldn't believe the lousy quality of hearing aid sound at 133Db. There has to be an option in flightgear to allow clear communication, even at a distance. That said, I'd never make it in a real cockpit. Current real aircraft audio is just about impossible to understand. On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:07:25 + TDO Brandano tdo_brand...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd leave to the client the task of distorting the received signal based on the distance and other environmental parameters. The server should just re-broadcast the clear signal, maybe culling over a simple range bubble. From: clem...@hotmail.fr To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 03:02:37 +0200 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM Hi Holger, I'm glad to know that FGCom integration is surprising you. It seems you have a pretty well vision of the perfect solution for radio simulation and I agree with you on this how-it-should-works. As James said, all of this is mostly based on P2P architecture which is far to be the easier things to create :) - Each client need to know the position of others clients - Each client must send a _clean_ sound signal (no distortion, no attenuation...) - Each client need to calculate the distorsion/attenuation of others clients depending of their distance (I'm callsign01; callsign02 is at 20nm from me = I can hear him loud, callsign03 is at 120nm from me = I can hear him quiet, callsign04... etc... etc...) We could also use a centralized architecture with a server which could works like: - I know the position and frequency of each clients - callsign01 is speaking on 122.50MHz - callsign02 is listening on 122.50MHz, the distance between callsign01 and callsign02 is 20nm = I send a clean signal from callsign01 to callsign02 - callsign03 is listening on 122.50MHz, the distance between callsign01 and callsign03 is 120nm = I send a distorted/attenuated signal from callsign01 to callsign02 - ... - ... I can't imagine the amount of work to create this new system. Also I have absolutely no idea where we should start if we really want (need?) this _much_ realistic system. Do you have any hint ? For sure this level of realism would be a really nice feature. But I admit I don't know if our users will be _much_more_ happy with this level of realism and they need/want this level of realism OR are they already very happy to have a simple way of communication better than a simple TeamSpeak-like application ? In this case is it necessary to work during months and months on this project ? Is it worth ? Of course if this level of realism I would be happy to use it ! But I'm not sure to be ready to work on this (big) project for only few of our pro-realistic users. But if the task is supported by some people, devs are involved, and my skills are sufficient, yes I would be part of this effort ;) Regards, Clément -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM
Hi Holger, I'm glad to know that FGCom integration is surprising you. It seems you have a pretty well vision of the perfect solution for radio simulation and I agree with you on this how-it-should-works. As James said, all of this is mostly based on P2P architecture which is far to be the easier things to create :) - Each client need to know the position of others clients - Each client must send a _clean_ sound signal (no distortion, no attenuation...) - Each client need to calculate the distorsion/attenuation of others clients depending of their distance (I'm callsign01; callsign02 is at 20nm from me = I can hear him loud, callsign03 is at 120nm from me = I can hear him quiet, callsign04... etc... etc...) We could also use a centralized architecture with a server which could works like: - I know the position and frequency of each clients - callsign01 is speaking on 122.50MHz - callsign02 is listening on 122.50MHz, the distance between callsign01 and callsign02 is 20nm = I send a clean signal from callsign01 to callsign02 - callsign03 is listening on 122.50MHz, the distance between callsign01 and callsign03 is 120nm = I send a distorted/attenuated signal from callsign01 to callsign02 - ... - ... I can't imagine the amount of work to create this new system. Also I have absolutely no idea where we should start if we really want (need?) this _much_ realistic system. Do you have any hint ? For sure this level of realism would be a really nice feature. But I admit I don't know if our users will be _much_more_ happy with this level of realism and they need/want this level of realism OR are they already very happy to have a simple way of communication better than a simple TeamSpeak-like application ? In this case is it necessary to work during months and months on this project ? Is it worth ? Of course if this level of realism I would be happy to use it ! But I'm not sure to be ready to work on this (big) project for only few of our pro-realistic users. But if the task is supported by some people, devs are involved, and my skills are sufficient, yes I would be part of this effort ;) Regards, Clément -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgcom UK problem
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCom - cmake
Hi Martin Did you pull, compile and test, any real feedback? Cheers, Yves Ps. We are aware of the next monster, thanks. Fgcom 1.2ff is working and still a nice piece. I guess you will find a lot of latest development from Holger Wirtz and Charles Ingels at sourceforge. I don't know if Holger Wirtz would find the time to guide someone trough the latest steps. And it's problematic anyway: Some newer fgcom code works a) with another license and/or b) still with iaxclient (which really is the most problematic part). PPS. Most wanted is still a proper asterisk/fgcom configuration like Csaba (?) runs it on fgcom server. Without such a configuration we are not aware of following the latest development steps anyway because we can't setup a test environment. Am 10.07.2012 um 21:06 schrieb Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net: ThorstenB wrote: Schön wieder Fortschritte bei fgcom zu sehen. Und schön CMake + Git zu sehen ;-). Habt ihr auch mal Holger Wirtz kontaktiert? Unfortunately Holger is unable to contribute to FGCom any more, but with a bit of luck he'll probably give access to his latest state of develoment (which, as far as I know, is different from what's available on Sourceforge). Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCom - cmake
Hi Thorsten Many thanks for your patch. Yes, it is thought as external cmake option and your patch is just one step ahead ;-) Cheers, Yves Am 10.07.12 20:52, schrieb ThorstenB: Am 10.07.2012 15:27, schrieb HB-GRAL: The last weeks Geoff McLane and me forked fgcom temporary at gitorious (http://www.gitorious.org/fgcom) and made some significant changes. Origin source is still available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgcom/ Schön wieder Fortschritte bei fgcom zu sehen. Und schön CMake + Git zu sehen ;-). Habt ihr auch mal Holger Wirtz kontaktiert? Wäre vielleicht ganz gut. Er ist beim LinuxTag in Berlin immer mit dabei - hat aber ansonsten wohl viel anderes zu tun. - In CMakeLists you can see that is possible now to set paths to positions and frequencies files with: -DSPECIAL_FREQUENCIES_FILE=fgcom-data/special_frequencies.txt -DDEFAULT_POSITIONS_FILE=fgcom-data/positions.txt Super wäre es, wenn diese auch als CMake Optionen von außen gesetzt werden können - damit man das an sein System anpassen kann, ohne an den Sourcen zu schrauben. Siehe Patch im Anhang. Ansonsten habe ich für Linux noch die pthread Library hinzufügen müssen. Eine saubere Lösung wäre wohl das irgendwie zu detektieren - ggf. mal in die FG CMake Files reinschauen, und irgendwie abkupfern. Mit dem Patch im Anhang hat es bei mir direkt funktioniert und fgcom läuft einwandfrei. Das alte fgcom konnte ich nur auf meinem alten Rechner laufen lassen (lansgsamer single core) - auf meiner modernen 6core Maschine lief das alte fgcom irgendwie nicht. Gruß, Thorsten -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCom - cmake
Am 10.07.12 20:50, schrieb Christian Schmitt: Awesome! I waited for just that, because current fgcom has not seen any change for a long time. Alreadey did a quick test and I think you will get some merge requests soon :) Cheers, Chris Hi Chris I can also add you as contributor and you can push to a new branch. Dealing with merge requests takes to much time for us ;-) Just let me know. Cheeers, Yves PS. This applies also for all other contributors of course who want to help to improve this fork at the moment. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCom - cmake
Awesome! I waited for just that, because current fgcom has not seen any change for a long time. Alreadey did a quick test and I think you will get some merge requests soon :) Cheers, Chris HB-GRAL wrote: Hi all The last weeks Geoff McLane and me forked fgcom temporary at gitorious (http://www.gitorious.org/fgcom) and made some significant changes. Origin source is still available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgcom/ - Most important change is moving fgcom to cmake build and trying to get fgcom compiling on all platforms again. - updated perl scripts to generate positions and freqs files with recent apt.dat/nav.dat - In CMakeLists you can see that is possible now to set paths to positions and frequencies files with: -DSPECIAL_FREQUENCIES_FILE=fgcom-data/special_frequencies.txt -DDEFAULT_POSITIONS_FILE=fgcom-data/positions.txt - Some minor changes for OSX: clenaing here and there, 10.5/6 i386/x86_64 universal support, individual (or macports) plib 1.8.5/PLIB.framework support, skipping osx 10.4 support, update iaxclient thread policy etc. Most work have been done by Geoff McLane with this cmake support now, many thanks to Geoff working on all this stuff and help to incorporate my osx changes to ONE single branch for all platforms. fgcomx as another fork on gitorious have been deleted. Now we need some testers and reporters for all platforms. When you want to help please checkout master and compile fgcom for your platform, install it and make echo tests or use it with your flightgear version. You will need current simgear and other dependencies of course (see readme, cmake 2.8, plib, OpenAL and current simgear needed). Thanks a lot, Yves PS. For next macflightgear release I would recommend to skip the old and buggy fgcom shipped with and replace it with a new build from this fork. After successful testing of course. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCom - cmake
Am 10.07.2012 15:27, schrieb HB-GRAL:
The last weeks Geoff McLane and me forked fgcom temporary at gitorious
(http://www.gitorious.org/fgcom) and made some significant changes.
Origin source is still available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgcom/
Schön wieder Fortschritte bei fgcom zu sehen. Und schön CMake + Git zu
sehen ;-). Habt ihr auch mal Holger Wirtz kontaktiert? Wäre vielleicht
ganz gut. Er ist beim LinuxTag in Berlin immer mit dabei - hat aber
ansonsten wohl viel anderes zu tun.
- In CMakeLists you can see that is possible now to set paths to
positions and frequencies files with:
-DSPECIAL_FREQUENCIES_FILE=fgcom-data/special_frequencies.txt
-DDEFAULT_POSITIONS_FILE=fgcom-data/positions.txt
Super wäre es, wenn diese auch als CMake Optionen von außen gesetzt
werden können - damit man das an sein System anpassen kann, ohne an den
Sourcen zu schrauben. Siehe Patch im Anhang.
Ansonsten habe ich für Linux noch die pthread Library hinzufügen
müssen. Eine saubere Lösung wäre wohl das irgendwie zu detektieren -
ggf. mal in die FG CMake Files reinschauen, und irgendwie abkupfern.
Mit dem Patch im Anhang hat es bei mir direkt funktioniert und fgcom
läuft einwandfrei. Das alte fgcom konnte ich nur auf meinem alten
Rechner laufen lassen (lansgsamer single core) - auf meiner modernen
6core Maschine lief das alte fgcom irgendwie nicht.
Gruß,
Thorsten
diff --git a/CMakeLists.txt b/CMakeLists.txt
index d599aae..63fd5dc 100644
--- a/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -298,8 +298,11 @@ add_definitions( -DSVN_REV=261 )
add_definitions( -DLIBVER=SVN 261 )
# for now follow like in OSX, in fgcom-data in the 'install' directory
-add_definitions( -DSPECIAL_FREQUENCIES_FILE=fgcom-data/special_frequencies.txt )
-add_definitions( -DDEFAULT_POSITIONS_FILE=fgcom-data/positions.txt )
+option( SPECIAL_FREQUENCIES_FILE Path to 'special frequencies' file. /usr/share/fgcom/special_frequencies.txt )
+option( DEFAULT_POSITIONS_FILE Path to 'default positions' file. /usr/share/fgcom/positions.txt )
+add_definitions( -DSPECIAL_FREQUENCIES_FILE=${SPECIAL_FREQUENCIES_FILE} )
+add_definitions( -DDEFAULT_POSITIONS_FILE=${DEFAULT_POSITIONS_FILE} )
+
if(ADD_DEBUG_OUTPUT)
add_definitions( -DDEBUG )
@@ -358,6 +361,7 @@ else(WIN32)
# DYNLIB=libiaxclient.dylib
else(APPLE)
if(UNIX)
+set( win_LIBS pthread )
# CFLAGS:= $(CFLAGS) -Iportaudio/src/os/unix
# DYNCFLAGS=-fPIC
# DYNLIB=libiaxclient.so
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCom - cmake
Ah well. You guessed the obvious... This was mainly meant for HB-GRAL. Anyway, an opportunity to learn some German! ;-) cheers, Thorsten Am 10.07.2012 20:52, schrieb ThorstenB: Am 10.07.2012 15:27, schrieb HB-GRAL: The last weeks Geoff McLane and me forked fgcom temporary at gitorious (http://www.gitorious.org/fgcom) and made some significant changes. Origin source is still available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgcom/ Schön wieder Fortschritte bei fgcom zu sehen. Und schön CMake + Git zu sehen ;-). Habt ihr auch mal Holger Wirtz kontaktiert? Wäre vielleicht ganz gut. Er ist beim LinuxTag in Berlin immer mit dabei - hat aber ansonsten wohl viel anderes zu tun. - In CMakeLists you can see that is possible now to set paths to positions and frequencies files with: -DSPECIAL_FREQUENCIES_FILE=fgcom-data/special_frequencies.txt -DDEFAULT_POSITIONS_FILE=fgcom-data/positions.txt Super wäre es, wenn diese auch als CMake Optionen von außen gesetzt werden können - damit man das an sein System anpassen kann, ohne an den Sourcen zu schrauben. Siehe Patch im Anhang. Ansonsten habe ich für Linux noch die pthread Library hinzufügen müssen. Eine saubere Lösung wäre wohl das irgendwie zu detektieren - ggf. mal in die FG CMake Files reinschauen, und irgendwie abkupfern. Mit dem Patch im Anhang hat es bei mir direkt funktioniert und fgcom läuft einwandfrei. Das alte fgcom konnte ich nur auf meinem alten Rechner laufen lassen (lansgsamer single core) - auf meiner modernen 6core Maschine lief das alte fgcom irgendwie nicht. Gruß, Thorsten -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCom - cmake
ThorstenB wrote: Schön wieder Fortschritte bei fgcom zu sehen. Und schön CMake + Git zu sehen ;-). Habt ihr auch mal Holger Wirtz kontaktiert? Unfortunately Holger is unable to contribute to FGCom any more, but with a bit of luck he'll probably give access to his latest state of develoment (which, as far as I know, is different from what's available on Sourceforge). Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help...
Installing the latest OpenAL, both as it is configured (Windows\System32) and as suggested (in Flightgear\bin\Win32) has had no effect on this issue. Still getting the same error. Cheers, -R. Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu From: Rob Shearman, Jr. rmsj...@yahoo.com To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:09:42 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help... MMM. Still struggling with this. In the Windows FG install, the OpenAL installer runs as part of the process. And, I already tried taking the two .dll files and moving them into the bin folder with FGCom. However, I found out that for some stupid reason (probably Vista and its propensity for VirtualStore folders specific to each user), the OpenAL install I did on the newer version you referred me to didn't overwrite the older .dll files. So I was in the process of tracking all copies of the old ones down and removing them manually, and hand-reinstalling the newer ones, when it became time to catch a nap before heading to work for the night. So I'll report back progress tomorrow. Thanks again for the troubleshooting ideas... Cheers, -R. Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu From: Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:16:21 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help... Does flightgear run the the OpenAL installer during setup, or does it just come with it's own dll? If there is an openal dll in the same directory as fgcom it will use that, regardless of anyone you install system wide I believe. If there is an openal dll there with the exe, try moving it or renaming it and see if it works. All I can think of off the top of my head. cheers -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help...
When I had that error on Debian Linux it was always a conflict with the sound system configuration. Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote: Installing the latest OpenAL, both as it is configured (Windows\System32) and as suggested (in Flightgear\bin\Win32) has had no effect on this issue. Still getting the same error. Cheers, -R. Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu *From:* Rob Shearman, Jr. rmsj...@yahoo.com *To:* FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2009 10:09:42 PM *Subject:* Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help... MMM. Still struggling with this. In the Windows FG install, the OpenAL installer runs as part of the process. And, I already tried taking the two .dll files and moving them into the bin folder with FGCom. However, I found out that for some stupid reason (probably Vista and its propensity for VirtualStore folders specific to each user), the OpenAL install I did on the newer version you referred me to didn't overwrite the older .dll files. So I was in the process of tracking all copies of the old ones down and removing them manually, and hand-reinstalling the newer ones, when it became time to catch a nap before heading to work for the night. So I'll report back progress tomorrow. Thanks again for the troubleshooting ideas... Cheers, -R. Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu *From:* Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com *To:* FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2009 5:16:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help... Does flightgear run the the OpenAL installer during setup, or does it just come with it's own dll? If there is an openal dll in the same directory as fgcom it will use that, regardless of anyone you install system wide I believe. If there is an openal dll there with the exe, try moving it or renaming it and see if it works. All I can think of off the top of my head. cheers -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help...
OpenAl function alcCaptureOpenDevice failed with code 0 FATAL ERROR: cannot initialize iaxclient! It's an OpenAL problem. Try installing the latest OpenAL from http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/Forms/AllItems.aspx ? -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help...
OpenAL comes packaged with the Windows installer for 1.9.1b. No luck. I see from the website you referenced that there is a summer 2009 update -- I tried installing that just now, and it didn't help. Thanks for the attempt -- any other ideas? Cheers, -R. Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu From: Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:51:47 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help... OpenAl function alcCaptureOpenDevice failed with code 0 FATAL ERROR: cannot initialize iaxclient! It's an OpenAL problem. Try installing the latest OpenAL from http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/Forms/AllItems.aspx ? -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help...
Does flightgear run the the OpenAL installer during setup, or does it just come with it's own dll? If there is an openal dll in the same directory as fgcom it will use that, regardless of anyone you install system wide I believe. If there is an openal dll there with the exe, try moving it or renaming it and see if it works. All I can think of off the top of my head. cheers -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help...
MMM. Still struggling with this. In the Windows FG install, the OpenAL installer runs as part of the process. And, I already tried taking the two .dll files and moving them into the bin folder with FGCom. However, I found out that for some stupid reason (probably Vista and its propensity for VirtualStore folders specific to each user), the OpenAL install I did on the newer version you referred me to didn't overwrite the older .dll files. So I was in the process of tracking all copies of the old ones down and removing them manually, and hand-reinstalling the newer ones, when it became time to catch a nap before heading to work for the night. So I'll report back progress tomorrow. Thanks again for the troubleshooting ideas... Cheers, -R. Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu From: Jacob Burbach jmburb...@gmail.com To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:16:21 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM troubleshooting help... Does flightgear run the the OpenAL installer during setup, or does it just come with it's own dll? If there is an openal dll in the same directory as fgcom it will use that, regardless of anyone you install system wide I believe. If there is an openal dll there with the exe, try moving it or renaming it and see if it works. All I can think of off the top of my head. cheers -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM version 2.0pre
Hi Holger, Still need help with configs for my own asterisk server for fgcom. Nick On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Holger Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am just amazed how nice bad sound can be if you try to use it in a radio environment :-) Every VoIP'er thinks I am braindead because I try to make VoIP streams sounding worse and not better... Csaba ported the openal code to iaxclient2 and Tat enhanced the Makefile so FGCOM builds on MacOSX. I added software DSP support (noise generator, filters (high, band, low, ... - but the algorithms are not highly optimized) and a simple squelch simulation (which has some small bugs). Currently all parameters for sound de-optimization are hard coded. All together it sounds really bad :- . Try it, but don't blame on me if you have trouble to get it working - it's a _pre_ release! svn checkout svn://svn.dfn.de:/fgcom/branches/iaxc2-lofi fgcom-lofi There is much to do and I hope there are some hackers around who likes to take part in the next steps of development: - fixing the squelch code. The noise gate is poorly implemented... - installing an interface for the dsp functions in the library code. This is really not difficult but takes some time to organize... - enhancing the algorithms of the dsp stack (avoiding multiple loops for a block of samples). The dsp stack should be flexible configurated from the fgcom application/config file so that the sound can be flexible changed to simulate different kinds of radios. - due to more and more parameters: using of a configuration file would be great - perhaps one in XML which uses code from FG to parse the XML data? - mixing background noise from the plane machines (perhaps pending on the state/level of the machine) into the outgoing stream And also on the queue: - intercom (I have a very simple solution for that - but no time to write code for) - a better conference application based on distances of the objects and the power of the radios Anyone who likes to help :-) ? Have a nice weekend! Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint http://www.dfn.deGPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM segfault
Hi Jester,
Thanks, it works!
On Feb 7, 2008, at 1:00 AM, Csaba Halász wrote:
On Feb 6, 2008 4:50 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I've been testing fgcom, and I got a segfault.
It shows No free call appearances. and then bang!
Does anyone know how to fix this?
According to gdb, it occures when trying to send a text message HIER DIE
KOORDINATEN USW.
I thought Holger fixed that it svn already. Anyway, just comment out that
block.
Regards,
Csaba/Jester
Index: fgcom.cpp
===
--- fgcom.cpp (revision 84)
+++ fgcom.cpp (working copy)
@@ -536,6 +536,7 @@
{
/* Check every DEFAULT_ALARM_TIMER seconds if position related
things should happen */
+#if 0
/* Send our coords to the server */
if (initialized == 1)
{
@@ -545,6 +546,7 @@
iaxc_send_text (tmp);
iaxc_dump_call ();
}
+#endif
if (check_special_frq (selected_frequency))
{
-
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: how to go on?
Csaba, On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 04:34:46PM +0100, Csaba Hal?sz wrote: On Jan 29, 2008 8:48 AM, Holger Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a nearly stable iaxc version 2 available which has some advantages (for VoIP, not necessarily for the usage with FG). The build system is now based on autotools which makes it complexer for me (I have no idea about autotools). But for further features it maybe not bad to use iaxc version 2 as a base for fgcom. However the current patches must be ported. I have messed a little with iaxc2. As speex and portaudio are no longer bundled I have hacked it to build without them as well. Speex is a really good open source codec but when using LoFi filters you get problems with every crunching codec. So using fgcom without spees might not be a problem. Perhaps GSM may also only used without LoFi (when the LoFi code is ready). I have used ./configure --disable-shared --enable-local-gsm --without-video and apparently got a working fgcom. Note: iaxclient2 does not compile with speex svn, as it uses some internal structure it is not supposed to.. As I said... speex will become problems the next month :-) Looks like iaxclient developers are dropping all audio drivers and relying on portaudio exclusively so probably they wouldn't be interested in an openal driver that in its current form isn't even usable for general VOIP. Getting it into portaudio would mean extra work. I'd rather add support to iaxclient for user-supplied external audio drivers (all the pieces are there really). This would be a useful general feature, so could be included in iaxclient upstream (same holds for the configure changes). That's great. I currently haven't took a look at it and I really hadn't in mind to rush you to port openal to iaxc2... It would also open some further possibilities, such as text-to-speech or pre-recorded messages. Drawback is, we would lose the portaudio driver. I don't know if Tat used that or openal on Mac, and no idea if any windows users managed to get fgcom running at all. I had in mind that the iaxc developers said they will be comptable to Linux, OSX and Win. So I hope this will be the same for iaxc2. I will set up a new branch for iaxc2 and will as Tat if he can check this. And now something else: Holger, can you look at the alarm_handler function? The new call initiated for the Send our coords to the server block seems to cause segfault with both iaxc v1 and iaxc v2, for other users as well. Argh! Fixed it with an #ifdef around... I need this some time for sending the postition of the client via IAX2. The future conference app should use this for distance calculation... Thanks a lot for your work! I will write some lines if the new branch is available. Regards, Holger -- Csaba/Jester Index: configure.ac === --- configure.ac (revision 1336) +++ configure.ac (working copy) @@ -143,6 +143,21 @@ [Theora support])],, with_theora=auto) +AC_ARG_WITH(openal, + [AS_HELP_STRING([--without-openal], + [OpenAl support])],, + with_openal=auto) + +AC_ARG_WITH(portaudio, + [AS_HELP_STRING([--without-portaudio], + [PortAudio support])],, + with_portaudio=auto) + +AC_ARG_WITH(speex, + [AS_HELP_STRING([--without-speex], + [Speex support])],, + with_speex=auto) + AC_ARG_WITH(vidcap, [AS_HELP_STRING([--without-vidcap], [libvidcap support])],, @@ -194,11 +209,21 @@ AC_SUBST(OSTYPE) -PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PORTAUDIO, [portaudio-2.0 = 19],,AC_MSG_ERROR([ - portaudio is required to build this package! - please see http://www.portaudio.com/ for how to - obtain a copy. -])) +has_portaudio=no +if test ! x$with_portaudio = xno; then +PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PORTAUDIO, [portaudio-2.0 = 19],has_portaudio=yes,has_portaudio=no) +if test x$has_portaudio = xyes; then + AC_DEFINE(AUDIO_PORTAUDIO, 1, [PORTAUDIO]) + PKG_REQUIRES=$PKG_REQUIRES portaudio +elif test ! x$with_portaudio = xauto ; then + AC_MSG_ERROR([ + portaudio is required to build this package! + please see http://www.portaudio.com/ for how to + obtain a copy. + ]) +fi +fi +AM_CONDITIONAL(PORTAUDIO, test x$has_portaudio = xyes) has_gsm=no if test x$enable_local_gsm = xyes; then @@ -215,7 +240,7 @@ has_ogg=no if test ! x$with_ogg = xno; then -PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OGG, [ogg = 1.1.3],has_ogg=yes) +PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OGG, [ogg = 1.1.3],has_ogg=yes,has_ogg=no) if test x$has_ogg = xyes; then AC_DEFINE(USE_OGG, 1, [OGG]) PKG_REQUIRES=$PKG_REQUIRES ogg @@ -228,16 +253,26 @@ fi fi AM_CONDITIONAL(OGG, test x$has_ogg = xyes) - -PKG_CHECK_MODULES(SPEEX, [speex = 1.2],,AC_MSG_ERROR([ - speex is required to build this package! - please see http://www.xiph.org/ for how to - obtain a copy. -])) +has_speex=no +if test !
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: how to go on?
On Jan 29, 2008 8:48 AM, Holger Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a nearly stable iaxc version 2 available which has some advantages (for VoIP, not necessarily for the usage with FG). The build system is now based on autotools which makes it complexer for me (I have no idea about autotools). But for further features it maybe not bad to use iaxc version 2 as a base for fgcom. However the current patches must be ported. I have messed a little with iaxc2. As speex and portaudio are no longer bundled I have hacked it to build without them as well. I have used ./configure --disable-shared --enable-local-gsm --without-video and apparently got a working fgcom. Note: iaxclient2 does not compile with speex svn, as it uses some internal structure it is not supposed to.. Looks like iaxclient developers are dropping all audio drivers and relying on portaudio exclusively so probably they wouldn't be interested in an openal driver that in its current form isn't even usable for general VOIP. Getting it into portaudio would mean extra work. I'd rather add support to iaxclient for user-supplied external audio drivers (all the pieces are there really). This would be a useful general feature, so could be included in iaxclient upstream (same holds for the configure changes). It would also open some further possibilities, such as text-to-speech or pre-recorded messages. Drawback is, we would lose the portaudio driver. I don't know if Tat used that or openal on Mac, and no idea if any windows users managed to get fgcom running at all. And now something else: Holger, can you look at the alarm_handler function? The new call initiated for the Send our coords to the server block seems to cause segfault with both iaxc v1 and iaxc v2, for other users as well. -- Csaba/Jester Index: configure.ac === --- configure.ac(revision 1336) +++ configure.ac(working copy) @@ -143,6 +143,21 @@ [Theora support])],, with_theora=auto) +AC_ARG_WITH(openal, + [AS_HELP_STRING([--without-openal], + [OpenAl support])],, + with_openal=auto) + +AC_ARG_WITH(portaudio, + [AS_HELP_STRING([--without-portaudio], + [PortAudio support])],, + with_portaudio=auto) + +AC_ARG_WITH(speex, + [AS_HELP_STRING([--without-speex], + [Speex support])],, + with_speex=auto) + AC_ARG_WITH(vidcap, [AS_HELP_STRING([--without-vidcap], [libvidcap support])],, @@ -194,11 +209,21 @@ AC_SUBST(OSTYPE) -PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PORTAUDIO, [portaudio-2.0 = 19],,AC_MSG_ERROR([ - portaudio is required to build this package! - please see http://www.portaudio.com/ for how to - obtain a copy. -])) +has_portaudio=no +if test ! x$with_portaudio = xno; then +PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PORTAUDIO, [portaudio-2.0 = 19],has_portaudio=yes,has_portaudio=no) +if test x$has_portaudio = xyes; then + AC_DEFINE(AUDIO_PORTAUDIO, 1, [PORTAUDIO]) + PKG_REQUIRES=$PKG_REQUIRES portaudio +elif test ! x$with_portaudio = xauto ; then + AC_MSG_ERROR([ + portaudio is required to build this package! + please see http://www.portaudio.com/ for how to + obtain a copy. + ]) +fi +fi +AM_CONDITIONAL(PORTAUDIO, test x$has_portaudio = xyes) has_gsm=no if test x$enable_local_gsm = xyes; then @@ -215,7 +240,7 @@ has_ogg=no if test ! x$with_ogg = xno; then -PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OGG, [ogg = 1.1.3],has_ogg=yes) +PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OGG, [ogg = 1.1.3],has_ogg=yes,has_ogg=no) if test x$has_ogg = xyes; then AC_DEFINE(USE_OGG, 1, [OGG]) PKG_REQUIRES=$PKG_REQUIRES ogg @@ -228,16 +253,26 @@ fi fi AM_CONDITIONAL(OGG, test x$has_ogg = xyes) - -PKG_CHECK_MODULES(SPEEX, [speex = 1.2],,AC_MSG_ERROR([ - speex is required to build this package! - please see http://www.xiph.org/ for how to - obtain a copy. -])) +has_speex=no +if test ! x$with_speex = xno; then +PKG_CHECK_MODULES(SPEEX, [speex = 1.2],has_speex=yes,has_speex=no) +if test x$has_speex = xyes; then + AC_DEFINE(USE_SPEEX, 1, [SPEEX]) + PKG_REQUIRES=$PKG_REQUIRES speex +elif test ! x$with_speex = xauto ; then + AC_MSG_ERROR([ + speex is required to build this package! + please see http://www.xiph.org/ for how to + obtain a copy. +]) +fi +fi +AM_CONDITIONAL(SPEEX, test x$has_speex = xyes) + has_theora=no if test ! x$with_theora = xno; then -PKG_CHECK_MODULES(THEORA, [theora = 1.0alpha7],has_theora=yes) +PKG_CHECK_MODULES(THEORA, [theora = 1.0alpha7],has_theora=yes,has_theora=no) if test x$has_theora = xyes; then AC_DEFINE(USE_THEORA, 1, [THEORA]) PKG_REQUIRES=$PKG_REQUIRES theora @@ -251,9 +286,23 @@ fi AM_CONDITIONAL(THEORA, test x$has_theora = xyes) +has_openal=no +if test ! x$with_openal = xno; then +PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OPENAL, [openal = 0.0.8],has_openal=yes,has_openal=no) +if test x$has_openal = xyes; then + AC_DEFINE(AUDIO_OPENAL, 1, [OPENAL]) + PKG_REQUIRES=$PKG_REQUIRES openal +elif test ! x$with_openal =
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: how to go on?
Hi Holger, I think you should go for iaxc 2 for more realistic radio sound simulation, like Lo-Fi filter and noise reduction. If possible, Lo-Fi filter can be toggled with an option. If I were you, I would release the current version with iaxc 1after applying and testing the patches, and then would move to iaxc 2. I have some knowledge about autotools, and so do many developers here. so I believe we can support for the autotools issue. Well, we have no rush on this, so you can have some time thinking about it. I also will try the iaxc 2 on Mac OS X since there seems a branch with iaxc2 and Lo-Fi filter on svn. Best, Tat On Jan 29, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Holger Wirtz wrote: Hi *, I am thinking about the next steps for fgcom. Jesper sent a patch for openal support and Tat made a patch for MacOSX (commited in the morning). Both are based on iaxclient (or iaxc) version 1. There is a nearly stable iaxc version 2 available which has some advantages (for VoIP, not necessarily for the usage with FG). The build system is now based on autotools which makes it complexer for me (I have no idea about autotools). But for further features it maybe not bad to use iaxc version 2 as a base for fgcom. However the current patches must be ported. My next ideas (intercom, noisy radio sound) for fgcom need changes at iaxc. So the big question is: Use iaxc v1 or iaxc v2? What do you think? Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
Hi, On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 03:05:37PM +0100, Csaba Hal?sz wrote: [...] I am onto it. Already got openal output working, input shouldn't be any problem either. This will be all software, as AnMaster proposed. [...] Just two questions: Have you ported the openal support for iaxclient to iaxclient2? Have you send a patch (iaxclient1/2) to the iaxclient developers? Perhaps they like to integrate the support for version 1 or 2? I can ask them if you like. Is your code stable or testing? regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
Hi, sorry, this mail was thaught directly for Csaba's mailbox and not for the list... HOlger On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 10:17:50AM +0100, Holger Wirtz wrote: Hi, On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 03:05:37PM +0100, Csaba Hal?sz wrote: [...] I am onto it. Already got openal output working, input shouldn't be any problem either. This will be all software, as AnMaster proposed. [...] Just two questions: Have you ported the openal support for iaxclient to iaxclient2? Have you send a patch (iaxclient1/2) to the iaxclient developers? Perhaps they like to integrate the support for version 1 or 2? I can ask them if you like. Is your code stable or testing? regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM : sound card issues
jean pellotier wrote: - at last, something about sound card config, yesterday we tryed to be 3 in atc mode (a way to have air to air contact with curent fgcom) but it was impossible for me to understand what other said, because of lots of repeatable echo (suitable for reggae i think!!). it was because of send of fgcom output to capture channel, by the microphone, or more probably by the sound card settings. (adjusting sound card volume and switch worked for two of us, so as to capture only mic input). so be sure to only capture mic when using fgcom . I was part of the test members along Jean and AnMaster. After AnMaster left us, I mutted amixer headphone output and the echo disappeared on Jean's side. (I didn't have echo at all on my side when we were two, Jean and me, though Jean had some until I muted that headphone output. When AnMaster joined us I have had a strong psychedelic echo.) And we definitively need air to air frequencies :) Alexis See a screenshot of my amixer settings here: http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/FGCOM/config-amixer.jpg Linux 2.6.22, Ubuntu Gusty Gibbon HDA NVidia (alsa mixer), Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2), Headset with microphone. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM : sound card issues
On Dec 22, 2007 11:36 AM, jean pellotier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi alls, few issues with fgcom: - My PC is ready to test fgcom with jack, (adat card rme96/8) but I can't manage to compile with: USE_PA_JACK=1, the first lines of error are: portaudio/src/hostapi/jack/pa_jack.c:71:27: error: pa_ringbuffer.h: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type portaudio/src/hostapi/jack/pa_jack.c:72:27: error: pa_debugprint.h: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type what should i do to make it working? I don't speak french, no idea what those errors are. However, I did manage to compile with jack support, I only needed to add -ljack into the STATIC_LIBS variable at the top of src/Makefile. Nevertheless, I recommend you use openal or alsa if possible. - currently fgcom is using my motherboard sound card with alsa, but the PTT don't work as it should: it never mute the mic (I use a bass pedal instead). the motherboard chipset is a NVidia nforce2 , and the sound chipset seems to be realteck ALC650F. fgcom move the mic volume, but in this sound card, it does not affect the capture volume, just the playback volume of the mic. Probably you are using an old version of fgcom. Openal and alsa output drivers are now using software muting, do not touch the hardware mixer at all. - at last, something about sound card config, yesterday we tryed to be 3 in atc mode (a way to have air to air contact with curent fgcom) but it was impossible for me to understand what other said, because of lots of repeatable echo (suitable for reggae i think!!). Echo is usually because somebody using standalone mode or a version which does not support software PTT. -- Csaba/Jester - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM : sound card issues
Csaba Halász a écrit : On Dec 22, 2007 11:36 AM, jean pellotier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi alls, few issues with fgcom: - My PC is ready to test fgcom with jack, (adat card rme96/8) but I can't manage to compile with: USE_PA_JACK=1, the first lines of error are: portaudio/src/hostapi/jack/pa_jack.c:71:27: error: pa_ringbuffer.h: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type portaudio/src/hostapi/jack/pa_jack.c:72:27: error: pa_debugprint.h: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type what should i do to make it working? I don't speak french, no idea what those errors are. However, I did manage to compile with jack support, I only needed to add -ljack into the STATIC_LIBS variable at the top of src/Makefile. Nevertheless, I recommend you use openal or alsa if possible. sorry, it just says can't find a file matching for pa_ringbuffer.h and pa_debugprint.h. Probably you are using an old version of fgcom. Openal and alsa output drivers are now using software muting, do not touch the hardware mixer at all. i use the last svn version (perhaps i'm wrong?) and pressing PTT change my sounds settings in alsamixer. Version 1.1.0 build 66M Using iaxclient library Version SVN 66M - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM : sound card issues
On Dec 23, 2007 2:25 AM, jean pellotier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry, it just says can't find a file matching for pa_ringbuffer.h and pa_debugprint.h. Interesting. Doing a search of all the files the string pa_ringbuffer is not mentioned anywhere. Maybe you have another iaxclient on your system as well? i use the last svn version (perhaps i'm wrong?) and pressing PTT change my sounds settings in alsamixer. With the alsa or openal drivers? *Not* pa-alsa! Version 1.1.0 build 66M Using iaxclient library Version SVN 66M That's the latest, yes. -- Csaba/Jester - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM : sound card issues
Csaba Halász a écrit : On Dec 23, 2007 2:25 AM, jean pellotier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry, it just says can't find a file matching for pa_ringbuffer.h and pa_debugprint.h. Interesting. Doing a search of all the files the string pa_ringbuffer is not mentioned anywhere. Maybe you have another iaxclient on your system as well? it concern the files pa_ringbuffer.h and pa_debugprint.h wich are on last portaudio stable release: http://www.portaudio.com/archives/pa_stable_v19_20071207.tar.gz but are are not present in the portaudio included with fgcom's source, i tried replace portaudio or import the files but it failed . i use the last svn version (perhaps i'm wrong?) and pressing PTT change my sounds settings in alsamixer. With the alsa or openal drivers? *Not* pa-alsa! you're right, with alsa that seems to be fine... i just need to test to be sure. thanks - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote
Hi, after thinking about this feature I recognized that there are some problems: Real radio has a limited range. So you can use the same frequency at every point on the world. If you can hear someone on the same frequency depends on how much power his transmitter has (and some other physical rules) and/or how far away he is and so on. But with the normal radio in a plane (or on ground) you cannot reach the whole world. And radio communication is a broadcast media. Now try to solve this with unicast media (such as VoIP). Without information about the coords of each member you cannot decide how far away you can be heared by other users. I have tried to fix this problem by using one well known coordinate (the one of the tower) and the next one of the plane - and a limited range. fgcom calculates which airport is most nearby your selected frequency. With the coords of this airport it can calculate how far away fgcom is and it can drop the line if it is out of range. The ideal algorithm would be some kind of conference server which gets the frequency it is responsible for, the voice streams _and_ the coords of all members on this frequency. With this data the stream for _each_ member can be mixed up (far away = quite) and send it towards each client. The problem is: that has not much to do with VoIP - so you havn't any features of VoIP and no implementations for server and client. Feel free to do so :-) Perhaps someone can extend the IAX2 protocol and write a new app_meetme.so for Asterisk which ca realise this. But I think it is not really neccessary at this time. Regards, Holger On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 07:47:59PM +0100, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 So when will this be fixed. Considering the type of flights I normally make I really need this feature. For example I was planning cross atlantic flight with in air refueling over mp using fgcom but until this BUG is fixed that is not possible. Because I consider it a bug. Regards, Arvid Norlander Csaba Halász wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 5:36 PM, AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I select a frequency that is not a tower freq for any nearby airport I always get Call rejected by remote. That is wrong, I should be able to use any frequency anywhere and talk to any aircraft within range. There is no airport out over the Atlantic for example. There are a lot of places with no airport in range, yet I should be able to talk to other aircrafts within range of my radio, and only those. Yes, the design of fgcom doesn't support that at the moment. That is not a bug, but a limitation. Currently fgcom is mostly usable for fixed position ATC. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHaBXeWmK6ng/aMNkRClI+AJ0eun88BJ0d9zibWuq5ufPgJzAhigCghW0/ XaoTLP9Ihy9rV62mF/EWLoY= =4Y/J -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote
Hi, On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 11:55:31AM +0100, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Holger Wirtz wrote: Hi Arvid, No, yes, no... yes it's a kind of bug. I had such things not in mind as I wrote fgcom. There should be a feature that allows to use the echo box even if you are authenticated to the server but this works only as guest. I will fix this soon. Than I have to setup asterisk to create conferences for _every_ frequency. That maybe working but I have to think about problems with this... Regards, Holger Nice. But do fgcom make a difference between the same frequency used for, lets say, an airport in Sweden and one in US? Or if you use it in any place just outside the range of that airport? fgcom makes differences - but only for airport becuase than you can calculate the distance. For every other frequency I can install a workaround which causes this frq to be unlimeted range - not very realistic. Regards, Holger Regards, Arvid Norlander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHaPijWmK6ng/aMNkRCobNAKCFAper1HujYKcWbcS5ONjJP+VCJwCfcQnu zGjdYAPTGdWCQn54BqX9mXM= =2bnH -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Holger Wirtz wrote: Hi Arvid, No, yes, no... yes it's a kind of bug. I had such things not in mind as I wrote fgcom. There should be a feature that allows to use the echo box even if you are authenticated to the server but this works only as guest. I will fix this soon. Than I have to setup asterisk to create conferences for _every_ frequency. That maybe working but I have to think about problems with this... Regards, Holger Nice. But do fgcom make a difference between the same frequency used for, lets say, an airport in Sweden and one in US? Or if you use it in any place just outside the range of that airport? Regards, Arvid Norlander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHaPijWmK6ng/aMNkRCobNAKCFAper1HujYKcWbcS5ONjJP+VCJwCfcQnu zGjdYAPTGdWCQn54BqX9mXM= =2bnH -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote
On Dec 18, 2007 5:36 PM, AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I select a frequency that is not a tower freq for any nearby airport I always get Call rejected by remote. That is wrong, I should be able to use any frequency anywhere and talk to any aircraft within range. There is no airport out over the Atlantic for example. There are a lot of places with no airport in range, yet I should be able to talk to other aircrafts within range of my radio, and only those. Yes, the design of fgcom doesn't support that at the moment. That is not a bug, but a limitation. Currently fgcom is mostly usable for fixed position ATC. -- Csaba/Jester - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 So when will this be fixed. Considering the type of flights I normally make I really need this feature. For example I was planning cross atlantic flight with in air refueling over mp using fgcom but until this BUG is fixed that is not possible. Because I consider it a bug. Regards, Arvid Norlander Csaba Halász wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 5:36 PM, AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I select a frequency that is not a tower freq for any nearby airport I always get Call rejected by remote. That is wrong, I should be able to use any frequency anywhere and talk to any aircraft within range. There is no airport out over the Atlantic for example. There are a lot of places with no airport in range, yet I should be able to talk to other aircrafts within range of my radio, and only those. Yes, the design of fgcom doesn't support that at the moment. That is not a bug, but a limitation. Currently fgcom is mostly usable for fixed position ATC. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHaBXeWmK6ng/aMNkRClI+AJ0eun88BJ0d9zibWuq5ufPgJzAhigCghW0/ XaoTLP9Ihy9rV62mF/EWLoY= =4Y/J -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote
Hi Arvid, On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 07:47:59PM +0100, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 So when will this be fixed. Considering the type of flights I normally make I really need this feature. For example I was planning cross atlantic flight with in air refueling over mp using fgcom but until this BUG is fixed that is not possible. Because I consider it a bug. No, yes, no... yes it's a kind of bug. I had such things not in mind as I wrote fgcom. There should be a feature that allows to use the echo box even if you are authenticated to the server but this works only as guest. I will fix this soon. Than I have to setup asterisk to create conferences for _every_ frequency. That maybe working but I have to think about problems with this... Regards, Holger Regards, Arvid Norlander Csaba Halász wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 5:36 PM, AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I select a frequency that is not a tower freq for any nearby airport I always get Call rejected by remote. That is wrong, I should be able to use any frequency anywhere and talk to any aircraft within range. There is no airport out over the Atlantic for example. There are a lot of places with no airport in range, yet I should be able to talk to other aircrafts within range of my radio, and only those. Yes, the design of fgcom doesn't support that at the moment. That is not a bug, but a limitation. Currently fgcom is mostly usable for fixed position ATC. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHaBXeWmK6ng/aMNkRClI+AJ0eun88BJ0d9zibWuq5ufPgJzAhigCghW0/ XaoTLP9Ihy9rV62mF/EWLoY= =4Y/J -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: attn Holger, KNID TWR not in the phone book :/
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 03:53:25PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: Holger Wirtz wrote: Alexis, as I see there is KNID in apt.dat.gz... hmmm maybe a bug in my script? I will check this the next days. Ok, thanks. Ok, the problem was an older apt.dat.gz file. Please check out the new version. Regards, Holger All the best, Alexis - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: attn Holger, KNID TWR not in the phone book :/
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:18:52 +0100 alexis bory wrote: Hi holger, My favorite place, and also one of the nicest airfield in California doesn't appear in phonebook.txt. It's KNID, China Lake Naval Air Weapons Station. Here some screenshot of this place: http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/scenery/index.html This airport could be included in the next scenery build and, I hope, could become an alternative to KSFO for military aircraft users in Flightgear. So a working ATC would help a lot :) Is it possible for you to add it in the list ? phonebook.txt KNIDTWR120.15phone numberChina Lake NAWS positions.txt KNID,120.150,35.682298,-117.684753,TWR,China Lake NAWS Have the taxiway/apron mods for this been submitted to Robin Peel? The ground structures and their animations are absolutely fabulous -- nice work -- but in our current scenery, the hangars etc. are located where aprons should be but aren't. I notice they're in the screenshots above, so I assume someone re-made the scenery with apt.dat changes. Have they been passed to Robin so they'll be in future generations of the scenery? -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: attn Holger, KNID TWR not in the phone book :/
Chris Metzler wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:18:52 +0100 alexis bory wrote: Hi holger, My favorite place, and also one of the nicest airfield in California doesn't appear in phonebook.txt. It's KNID, China Lake Naval Air Weapons Station. Here some screenshot of this place: http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/scenery/index.html ../.. Have the taxiway/apron mods for this been submitted to Robin Peel? The ground structures and their animations are absolutely fabulous -- nice work -- but in our current scenery, the hangars etc. are located where aprons should be but aren't. I notice they're in the screenshots above, so I assume someone re-made the scenery with apt.dat changes. Have they been passed to Robin so they'll be in future generations of the scenery? -c Thanks Chris, I did draw those aprons and taxiways and yes, I sent a knid.dat file to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/10/2007, but I didn't receive any acknoledgment. Robin (which is on copy), please could you confirm ? Alexis - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: attn Holger, KNID TWR not in the phone book :/
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 12:18:52PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: Hi holger, My favorite place, and also one of the nicest airfield in California doesn't appear in phonebook.txt. It's KNID, China Lake Naval Air Weapons Station. Maybe it is not ip apt.dat.gz? This is the source for the generation of the extensions.conf. Here some screenshot of this place: http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/scenery/index.html Wow. Really great. I think I have to install the scenery soon. This airport could be included in the next scenery build and, I hope, could become an alternative to KSFO for military aircraft users in Flightgear. So a working ATC would help a lot :) Is it possible for you to add it in the list ? phonebook.txt KNIDTWR120.15phone numberChina Lake NAWS positions.txt KNID,120.150,35.682298,-117.684753,TWR,China Lake NAWS Both files are generated from apt.dat.gz... but I can add them manually. The better way will be to add them to apt.dat.gz. Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: attn Holger, KNID TWR not in the phone book :/
Alexis, as I see there is KNID in apt.dat.gz... hmmm maybe a bug in my script? I will check this the next days. Regards, Holger - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: attn Holger, KNID TWR not in the phone book :/
Holger Wirtz wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 12:18:52PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: Is it possible for you to add it in the list ? phonebook.txt KNID TWR 120.15 phone number China Lake NAWS positions.txt KNID,120.150,35.682298,-117.684753,TWR,China Lake NAWS Both files are generated from apt.dat.gz... but I can add them manually. The better way will be to add them to apt.dat.gz. eeek, they are in apt.dat.gz, at least in the current CVS version :) Something must going wrong... Alexis - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: attn Holger, KNID TWR not in the phone book :/
Holger Wirtz wrote: Alexis, as I see there is KNID in apt.dat.gz... hmmm maybe a bug in my script? I will check this the next days. Ok, thanks. All the best, Alexis - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: attn Holger, KNID TWR not in the phone book :/
On Dec 11, 2007 3:44 PM, Holger Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 12:18:52PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: Hi holger, My favorite place, and also one of the nicest airfield in California doesn't appear in phonebook.txt. It's KNID, China Lake Naval Air Weapons Station. Maybe it is not ip apt.dat.gz? This is the source for the generation of the extensions.conf. Must be some problem with the generation. KOAK Oakland is in apt.dat, but isn't in positions.txt either. -- Csaba/Jester - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM: attn Holger, KNID TWR not in the phone book :/
Robin Peel wrote: Alexis: My mistake - I did not acknowledge your message. But I did receive that update for KNID and it was first published in my 2007.09 data release. - Robin Nice, thanks a lot. Alexis - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM gets a discussion page on the wiki
Willie, On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:14:28PM +, Willie Fleming wrote: http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Talk:FGCOM Ive kicked this off with a request for _simplex_ comms and a wee moan about voice quality. I used squawkBox once a couple of years back - I cant honestly remeber how the Ok, but I see many things that should be solved at the same time. We should create a list og topics to be done and we should try to give them priorities and perhaps name who try to solve these topics. But where to place this list? FG-Wiki? My own Wiki? voice quality sounded. Can anyoine enlighten me? How realistic does it sound? The ATC chatter we have is pretty realistic - obviously recorded by someone with a newish scanner somewhere near Heathrow EGLL - in terms of volume quality and random spurious noises and clicks - note the variations in perceived volume of the different calling stations. These aircraft however are all commercial operations, the radios found in GA aircraft will in some cases sound a bit rougher. I see the following realism problems: 1.) absence of random white noise 2.) the voice channels should be limited with a high cut (at 4 kHz) (or an band pass between 300 Hz and 4 KHz) 3.) as in real life there should be a mechanism for realising crosstalking (e.g. the sender with the maximum of output pushes other senders in the background) 4.) real com radios have an automatic noise limiter (squelch) which makes a little noise after releasing the PTT key. 5.) pilots have engine sounds in the background Here are my ideas: 1.) A daemon in the background ca radomly place short samples of white noise and/or athmospherical noise an used channels. The problem is that crosstalking cannot be recognized from such a daemon (see 4). 2.) Perhaps an EQ in the sound chain. The best place would be iaxclient. But also ALSA would be working - but this is not real protable. 3.) That's a real problem. If this should work something like a complete new conference module for asterisk must be developed __AND___ a mechanism (schedular) for the voice clients (perhaps a simple FIFO). Not as easy as it sounds... 4.) Why not sending a simple short noise sample after muting the mic? This could be placed inside iaxclient. 5.) Again: mixing engine sound inside the mic stream... perhaps also at iaxclient? What I see: Everything is more a sound/VoIP problem rather than a FG problem... Please note -- Im used to hearing ATC chatter in the UK --probably a LOT different in the rest of Europe and the US. I don't know how the ATC chatter we have sounds to the rest of you guys both in terms of content and quality. I tried to follow some web ATC streams and I udnerstand nearly nothing - especially the pilots are very difficult to understand. :-) Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM gets a discussion page on the wiki
Hello Holger! Holger Wirtz wrote: 3.) as in real life there should be a mechanism for realising crosstalking (e.g. the sender with the maximum of output pushes other senders in the background) crosstalking in real-life more often happens to create interference which punishes those listening for wearing headsets (people tell me these things are there for protecting your ears ;-) Please note -- Im used to hearing ATC chatter in the UK --probably a LOT different in the rest of Europe and the US. I don't know how the ATC chatter we have sounds to the rest of you guys both in terms of content and quality. I tried to follow some web ATC streams and I udnerstand nearly nothing - especially the pilots are very difficult to understand. :-) As a VFR pilot I'm mostly used to German and English VFR chatter and don't typically hang out on radar frequencies or the likes. The FlightGear ATC chatter is almost incomprehensible to me, mainly due to the speed... After all, VFR is typically the domain of leasure time pilots, and most of them don't generally practice their speed or even the coherence of their radio skills daily. For some of them, FGCOM might change this... ;-) Cheers, Ralf - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM gets a discussion page on the wiki
On Monday 26 November 2007 09:53:16 Holger Wirtz wrote: Ok, but I see many things that should be solved at the same time. We should create a list og topics to be done and we should try to give them priorities and perhaps name who try to solve these topics. But where to place this list? FG-Wiki? My own Wiki? I suggest FG-wiki with a link to your own wiki for now. I see the following realism problems: 1.) absence of random white noise 2.) the voice channels should be limited with a high cut (at 4 kHz) (or an band pass between 300 Hz and 4 KHz) 3.) as in real life there should be a mechanism for realising crosstalking (e.g. the sender with the maximum of output pushes other senders in the background) 4.) real com radios have an automatic noise limiter (squelch) which makes a little noise after releasing the PTT key. 5.) pilots have engine sounds in the background I think we need to go for _some_ more realism but not at the expense of too much extra complication which may gain us very little in the end. With headphones at both ends, Jester and I did a good test with his latest patched code. I need to get a better headset mic-- For now I only have headphones and an old omnidirectional mic -- not realistic at all. I think we will see very good results with Jesters latest patch and properly positioned mics and headsets Here are my ideas: 1.) A daemon in the background ca radomly place short samples of white noise and/or athmospherical noise an used channels. The problem is that crosstalking cannot be recognized from such a daemon (see 4). 2.) Perhaps an EQ in the sound chain. The best place would be iaxclient. But also ALSA would be working - but this is not real protable. 3.) That's a real problem. If this should work something like a complete new conference module for asterisk must be developed __AND___ a mechanism (schedular) for the voice clients (perhaps a simple FIFO). Not as easy as it sounds... Lets leave that to one side for the moment - sounds overly complex . I should be careful what I wish for... 4.) Why not sending a simple short noise sample after muting the mic? This could be placed inside iaxclient. 5.) Again: mixing engine sound inside the mic stream... perhaps also at iaxclient? What I see: Everything is more a sound/VoIP problem rather than a FG problem... Indeed Im with Jester on this - lets get good clean sound and then add a (possibly optional) realism layer on top which would include a bandpass filter, white noise and PTT clicks etc. Engine noise is more complex. To be right it would have to be different for each type. The background cockpit noise in a Pitts is not what we'd expect in the 777. My vote is to give this a low priority for now. Please note -- Im used to hearing ATC chatter in the UK --probably a LOT different in the rest of Europe and the US. I don't know how the ATC chatter we have sounds to the rest of you guys both in terms of content and quality. I tried to follow some web ATC streams and I udnerstand nearly nothing - especially the pilots are very difficult to understand. Its gibberish until you understand a little about what information is being tranferred and the idioms involved. Downwind for full stop, Golf Oscar Mike means little in isolation.. in context, Ive just told EGPK tower that Im about 1.5km to the SW of the end of runway 31 on an approx heading of 130 deg at 1000feet and I want to land and taxi back to the clubhouse, if thats OK with him... Its actually fairly easy once you know some background :-) How did you feel the first time you saw a 10 line shell script? Scared me silly.. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
On Nov 23, 2007 11:50 AM, Holger Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:42:42AM +0100, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 There are quite a few reasons why fgcom shouldn't touch mixer settings: 1) Changing/muting master prevents sound from applications like flightgear and festival (flightgear got built in support for festival that I use) Even if there is a reason to mute this, it isn't realistic, the engine sound isn't turned off in a real airplane... Only the mic is muted - not the speakers. But for intercom you are right: I want that my partner can listen everythin I say so fgcom should not mute the mic but only the channel towards the radio. 2) Why not do it in the software of fgcom. To mute: just stop listening. Yep - as I wrote yesterday: this must be coded inside iaxclient because the complete audio layer is baught by iaxclient. Anyone who likes to do this? I am onto it. Already got openal output working, input shouldn't be any problem either. This will be all software, as AnMaster proposed. -- Csaba/Jester Regards, Holger Holger Wirtz wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:17:46AM +0100, AnMaster wrote: [...] it would leave the mixer settings I use alone. I will wait for this bug to get fixed before I try it again. I must say that I haven't tried the OSS version until now. I hope that I can do this at weekend. After all this may be a problem with iaxclient 1.x and/or 64 bit. For 32bit I will check this and post my results here. Well I would prefer native ALSA support but as showed in earlier mail that didn't even compile. FYI I use in kernel ALSA driver (emu10k1) for my card (Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)). Also using OpenAL sounds like a good alternative to me, it is cross platform and works well in my experience. Doesn't flightgear itself use OpenAL? Yes I think so. But fgcom uses the VoIP backend iaxclient which does not support OpenAL until someone writes the code. For the most Linux-Users ALSA would be the right choice. But native ALSA may conflict with other applications (see the PTT key problem which Csaba find out). Why would native ALSA conflict with other programs? If you mean mixer, either use dmix or, if your sound card got one, hardware mixer. Set up your ALSA for that. However, what should one use on FreeBSD? I haven't yet got fgcom to work on my FreeBSD system (FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8 x86_64). OpenAL works just fine on it. For the PTT key problem, well I would rather use the MIC on/off button that is on the cable to my headset anyway. Yes - this is difficult to solve and we (I?) have to think about this more than twice the next days. Regards, Holger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRq6eWmK6ng/aMNkRCh4dAJ9wz9TZuiR5LhwcboqaDmSEk/I2dACdFxoB XA8B68niOqidWrkd1wDHyGs= =/5Ef -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM fails to compile. Still.
On Thursday 22 November 2007 03:09:40 pm AnMaster wrote: /usr/include/alsa/global.h:134: error: redefinition of 'struct timeval' /usr/include/alsa/global.h:139: error: redefinition of 'struct timespec' I got it to compile native alsa by going to global.h and deleting those timing lines between the diff. Not sure what the effects will be but it does compile and does not error when using with Flightgear. It works fine standalone (ATC mode) but is not working when running with Flightgear. Will plug away some more today. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I tried the Portaudio ALSA one, it compiled, on running: muted master. Jack I don't have installed so I can't test that. And as stated before, native ALSA does not compile. If it can't even keep track of what channel is Master and what one is MIC something is very broken... The information I gave about what sound card in an earlier mail may be helpful for this. I can also upload some screenshots of kmix after and before FGCOM messing it up if you want. Further, on last try with Portaudio ALSA: ./fgcom - a communication radio based on VoIP with IAX/Asterisk (c)2007 by H. Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version 1.1.0 build 42M Using iaxclient library Version SVN 42M Reading list of airports...done. Initializing IAX client as :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Selected frequency: 120.500 Airport San Francisco Intl (KSFO TWR at 120.500 MHz) is in range ( 2.2 km) Call 0 accepted KSFO San Francisco Intl 120.500 TWR Call 0 answered [SPEAK] unmute mic, mute speaker [LISTEN] mute mic, unmute speaker [SPEAK] unmute mic, mute speaker [LISTEN] mute mic, unmute speaker Airport San Francisco Intl (KSFO TWR at 120.500 MHz) is in range ( 2.2 km) [SPEAK] unmute mic, mute speaker [LISTEN] mute mic, unmute speaker [SPEAK] unmute mic, mute speaker [LISTEN] mute mic, unmute speaker [SPEAK] unmute mic, mute speaker [LISTEN] mute mic, unmute speaker [SPEAK] unmute mic, mute speaker [LISTEN] mute mic, unmute speaker [SPEAK] unmute mic, mute speaker [LISTEN] mute mic, unmute speaker Radio-Select: NAV1 Selected frequency: 115.800 Hanging up call 0 Airport San Francisco Intl (KSFO ATIS at 115.800 MHz) is in range ( 2.2 km) Airport San Francisco Intl (KSFO ATIS at 115.800 MHz) is in range ( 2.2 km) No free call appearances [LISTEN] mute mic, unmute speaker Radio-Select: COM2 Selected frequency: 118.300 Segmentation fault The seg fault was after a Shift-Space... Oh and as before it muted the wrong stuff. Regards, AnMaster AnMaster wrote: Holger Wirtz wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:42:42AM +0100, AnMaster wrote: There are quite a few reasons why fgcom shouldn't touch mixer settings: 1) Changing/muting master prevents sound from applications like flightgear and festival (flightgear got built in support for festival that I use) Even if there is a reason to mute this, it isn't realistic, the engine sound isn't turned off in a real airplane... Only the mic is muted - not the speakers. But for intercom you are Then OSS alternative is broken, it mutes the MASTER setting. And changes volume of Master and Mic. It never mutes mic however. The ALSA one doesn't compile and the portaudio one says something about native 8000Hz for card (something I got no idea if I got). right: I want that my partner can listen everythin I say so fgcom should not mute the mic but only the channel towards the radio. 2) Why not do it in the software of fgcom. To mute: just stop listening. Yep - as I wrote yesterday: this must be coded inside iaxclient because the complete audio layer is baught by iaxclient. Anyone who likes to do this? Regards, Holger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRrgoWmK6ng/aMNkRCgovAJ9CHBidTSmZl7tmdfnRF1diqx3GmwCdEiUs rzDMY9HjMd5W7RJ0Caifjgg= =IdaR -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Holger Wirtz wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:42:42AM +0100, AnMaster wrote: There are quite a few reasons why fgcom shouldn't touch mixer settings: 1) Changing/muting master prevents sound from applications like flightgear and festival (flightgear got built in support for festival that I use) Even if there is a reason to mute this, it isn't realistic, the engine sound isn't turned off in a real airplane... Only the mic is muted - not the speakers. But for intercom you are Then OSS alternative is broken, it mutes the MASTER setting. And changes volume of Master and Mic. It never mutes mic however. The ALSA one doesn't compile and the portaudio one says something about native 8000Hz for card (something I got no idea if I got). right: I want that my partner can listen everythin I say so fgcom should not mute the mic but only the channel towards the radio. 2) Why not do it in the software of fgcom. To mute: just stop listening. Yep - as I wrote yesterday: this must be coded inside iaxclient because the complete audio layer is baught by iaxclient. Anyone who likes to do this? Regards, Holger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRrKFWmK6ng/aMNkRCiBwAKCNU4obK7lP0uY67yoHbi6PP8FO7gCgtb0b Czz1BgAbK+2l53mXgRtohXY= =SfDU -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Holger Wirtz wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:46:12PM +0100, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 So I tried FGCOM with OSS emulation, at last it compiled with jester's patch at http://pastebin.ca/794075. Now I tried it. Error. Ok, so I need to edit some files it turns out after asking on IRC channel to change prefix (whatever happened to ./configure --prefix? or cmake?). Yep. This patch should be applied to iaxclient 2.x. After many errors at last I got it to run. The first things it does is messing Congratulations! up the mixer settings I like by changing volume upwards almost causing my ears to burst. After that it turns the master off. What is the point in that? I wish it would leave the mixer settings I use alone. I will wait for this bug to get fixed before I try it again. I must say that I haven't tried the OSS version until now. I hope that I can do this at weekend. After all this may be a problem with iaxclient 1.x and/or 64 bit. For 32bit I will check this and post my results here. Well I would prefer native ALSA support but as showed in earlier mail that didn't even compile. FYI I use in kernel ALSA driver (emu10k1) for my card (Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)). Also using OpenAL sounds like a good alternative to me, it is cross platform and works well in my experience. Doesn't flightgear itself use OpenAL? Regards, AnMaster Regards, Holger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRqjHWmK6ng/aMNkRCkjiAJ4vaWvXb0Cdt3RJ125h3mnl2M240QCfe+fA W7yZyCZg+WbeUkm1/p3EHMU= =3f0V -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM fails to compile. Still.
Hi, On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:09:40PM +0100, AnMaster wrote: [...] - -DAUDIO_ALSA -Ilibiax2/src -DLIBIAX -DSPEEX_EC=1 -DLINUX -c -o audio_alsa.o audio_alsa.c In file included from /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h:44, from audio_alsa.c:20: /usr/include/alsa/global.h:134: error: redefinition of 'struct timeval' /usr/include/alsa/global.h:139: error: redefinition of 'struct timespec' audio_alsa.c: In function 'alsa_output': audio_alsa.c:91: warning: format '%d' expects type 'int', but argument 2 has type 'long int' audio_alsa.c: In function 'alsa_initialize': audio_alsa.c:137: warning: unused variable 'buf' audio_alsa.c:135: warning: unused variable 'i' make[1]: *** [audio_alsa.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/src/arvid/fgcom/iaxclient/lib' make: *** [iaxstatic] Error 2 I tried the native ALSA support. [...] The Version 1.x is not 64bit clean :-( Version 2.x will be (hopefully). But at this time it might be better to work with 1.x. After everything runs fine for a time I will try to merge to 2.x for an unstable version. Or try to check out the unstable release and compile fgcom against 2.x: svn checkout https://iaxclient.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/iaxclient/trunk Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:42:42AM +0100, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 There are quite a few reasons why fgcom shouldn't touch mixer settings: 1) Changing/muting master prevents sound from applications like flightgear and festival (flightgear got built in support for festival that I use) Even if there is a reason to mute this, it isn't realistic, the engine sound isn't turned off in a real airplane... Only the mic is muted - not the speakers. But for intercom you are right: I want that my partner can listen everythin I say so fgcom should not mute the mic but only the channel towards the radio. 2) Why not do it in the software of fgcom. To mute: just stop listening. Yep - as I wrote yesterday: this must be coded inside iaxclient because the complete audio layer is baught by iaxclient. Anyone who likes to do this? Regards, Holger Holger Wirtz wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:17:46AM +0100, AnMaster wrote: [...] it would leave the mixer settings I use alone. I will wait for this bug to get fixed before I try it again. I must say that I haven't tried the OSS version until now. I hope that I can do this at weekend. After all this may be a problem with iaxclient 1.x and/or 64 bit. For 32bit I will check this and post my results here. Well I would prefer native ALSA support but as showed in earlier mail that didn't even compile. FYI I use in kernel ALSA driver (emu10k1) for my card (Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)). Also using OpenAL sounds like a good alternative to me, it is cross platform and works well in my experience. Doesn't flightgear itself use OpenAL? Yes I think so. But fgcom uses the VoIP backend iaxclient which does not support OpenAL until someone writes the code. For the most Linux-Users ALSA would be the right choice. But native ALSA may conflict with other applications (see the PTT key problem which Csaba find out). Why would native ALSA conflict with other programs? If you mean mixer, either use dmix or, if your sound card got one, hardware mixer. Set up your ALSA for that. However, what should one use on FreeBSD? I haven't yet got fgcom to work on my FreeBSD system (FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8 x86_64). OpenAL works just fine on it. For the PTT key problem, well I would rather use the MIC on/off button that is on the cable to my headset anyway. Yes - this is difficult to solve and we (I?) have to think about this more than twice the next days. Regards, Holger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRq6eWmK6ng/aMNkRCh4dAJ9wz9TZuiR5LhwcboqaDmSEk/I2dACdFxoB XA8B68niOqidWrkd1wDHyGs= =/5Ef -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:17:46AM +0100, AnMaster wrote: [...] it would leave the mixer settings I use alone. I will wait for this bug to get fixed before I try it again. I must say that I haven't tried the OSS version until now. I hope that I can do this at weekend. After all this may be a problem with iaxclient 1.x and/or 64 bit. For 32bit I will check this and post my results here. Well I would prefer native ALSA support but as showed in earlier mail that didn't even compile. FYI I use in kernel ALSA driver (emu10k1) for my card (Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)). Also using OpenAL sounds like a good alternative to me, it is cross platform and works well in my experience. Doesn't flightgear itself use OpenAL? Yes I think so. But fgcom uses the VoIP backend iaxclient which does not support OpenAL until someone writes the code. For the most Linux-Users ALSA would be the right choice. But native ALSA may conflict with other applications (see the PTT key problem which Csaba find out). Yes - this is difficult to solve and we (I?) have to think about this more than twice the next days. Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 There are quite a few reasons why fgcom shouldn't touch mixer settings: 1) Changing/muting master prevents sound from applications like flightgear and festival (flightgear got built in support for festival that I use) Even if there is a reason to mute this, it isn't realistic, the engine sound isn't turned off in a real airplane... 2) Why not do it in the software of fgcom. To mute: just stop listening. Holger Wirtz wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:17:46AM +0100, AnMaster wrote: [...] it would leave the mixer settings I use alone. I will wait for this bug to get fixed before I try it again. I must say that I haven't tried the OSS version until now. I hope that I can do this at weekend. After all this may be a problem with iaxclient 1.x and/or 64 bit. For 32bit I will check this and post my results here. Well I would prefer native ALSA support but as showed in earlier mail that didn't even compile. FYI I use in kernel ALSA driver (emu10k1) for my card (Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)). Also using OpenAL sounds like a good alternative to me, it is cross platform and works well in my experience. Doesn't flightgear itself use OpenAL? Yes I think so. But fgcom uses the VoIP backend iaxclient which does not support OpenAL until someone writes the code. For the most Linux-Users ALSA would be the right choice. But native ALSA may conflict with other applications (see the PTT key problem which Csaba find out). Why would native ALSA conflict with other programs? If you mean mixer, either use dmix or, if your sound card got one, hardware mixer. Set up your ALSA for that. However, what should one use on FreeBSD? I haven't yet got fgcom to work on my FreeBSD system (FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8 x86_64). OpenAL works just fine on it. For the PTT key problem, well I would rather use the MIC on/off button that is on the cable to my headset anyway. Yes - this is difficult to solve and we (I?) have to think about this more than twice the next days. Regards, Holger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRq6eWmK6ng/aMNkRCh4dAJ9wz9TZuiR5LhwcboqaDmSEk/I2dACdFxoB XA8B68niOqidWrkd1wDHyGs= =/5Ef -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 12:23:22PM +0100, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I tried the Portaudio ALSA one, it compiled, on running: muted master. Jack I don't have installed so I can't test that. And as stated before, native ALSA does not compile. If it can't even keep track of what channel is Master and what one is MIC something is very broken... I will check this on 32bit this weekend. Perhaps broken alsa or iaxclient code on 64bit. The information I gave about what sound card in an earlier mail may be helpful for this. I can also upload some screenshots of kmix after and before FGCOM messing it up if you want. I quite believe it but I am amazed that there is no one who told me this problem and I think most of the other testers are 32bit users. Further, on last try with Portaudio ALSA: [...] Segmentation fault The seg fault was after a Shift-Space... Oh and as before it muted the wrong stuff. Same at my side. H it seems to be a problem with the iaxclient interface - but I cannot say if my interpretation of usage is wrong or something inside... I will check this. Regards,Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgcom problems...
Hi, On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:05:27PM +0100, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Where exactly do I find the things listed at http://squonk.abacab.org/dokuwiki/fgcom#requirements ? Several of them (all the asterix ones, the gsm one and some more) do not exist as packages for my distro, some links to source of them would be very useful. Google did not help. I hope this will change soon, I suggest links to official homepages of the dependencies you use. I already asked for this before on the mailing list several weeks ago. The situation did not improve... Ok, my fault. I just had not enough time to get everything round and I forgot to insert the links. I hope I can get this fixed the next days. Currently I have very much problem s with my fingers (don't laugh!) because I hacked to my on my computer keyboard and my piano... very painful. Sadly it currently seems that the FGCOM developer discriminates non-Debian users. Some experiments on different systems: * Gentoo Linux (x86_64) - unable to install dependencies because I can't find them in the way FGCOM wants. * Slackware (x86) - unable to install dependencies because I can't find them in the way FGCOM wants. * SourceMage GNU/Linux (x86) - unable to install dependencies because I can't find them in the way FGCOM wants. * FreeBSD (x86_64) - unable to install dependencies because I can't find them in the way FGCOM wants. I don't have access to try on any Debian system. But clearly the FGCOM developer needs to fix this. I have heard about programs not being cross-platform before. But this is the first program I have seen that is not cross-distro... For your information both fg/plib and fg/osg runs fine on all of the above. Come on... this is not a discrimination - more a lack of time to check out many other distros. I have only Debian around and at this time I cannot install more distros on my vmware to check if fgcom works. Have in mind that after release in September nearly noone had interest in testing fgcom. Why should I do much work if there are no users? I will do my best the next days/weeks. Until now this was a one person show and I have parallel a job, a family (and my piano). Give me some time and fgcom will hopefully work also on Linux (all!), Windows and Mac. Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgcom is now available partially static linked
Hi all, On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 11:03:00AM +0200, Mirko Stanisak wrote: Hi, Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2007 schrieb Holger Wirtz: Hi all, I have put a new version (1.0.1) as a partially static linked binary in the tarball of fgcom. The new binary got the libiaxclient-2.1svn, libspeex and libgsm static linked. I hope this solves problems with these libraries. You can download the tarball at: http://squonk.abacab.org/dokuwiki/fgcom#download I don't know if it's just me, but I can't download the new fgcom release from the URL linked in the wiki (http://squonk.abacab.org/dokuwiki/_media/fgcom-1.0.1-tar.gz?id=fgcomcache=cache). I just get a Not Found at that address. Where is the error? Sorry, there was a typo in thefilename. It's now fixed, sorry for the inconvenience. Holger Regards, Holger P.S.: If you got the program running, please let me know on which Distribution and if the binary works. wilco ;-) Regards, Mirko - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgcom
Hi Emmanuel, On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 09:15:23PM +0200, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: I'm sorry but the mail of fgcom programmer is not avaible. I post my message here. uuups... this should be mentioned on the web site. I will double check this on monday. My mail address ist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, First of all to ask you forgiveness for my bad English. Actually I use Google to translate for me because I do not speak English. Oh. And I do not speak french so I hope google will forgive me for my bad english :-) Thanks for your testing! I will take a look at this on monday, too. Until now the code is really alpha code and my C knowledge is not very well. Due to my 32bit Linux I cannot test why the problem exists but I think it is a simple problem in themake process... try to compile without -L/usr/lib64 -L/usr/lib64 (by hand?). The -L/usr/lib64 -L/usr/lib64 are inserted by the macro XMLRPC_LIBS:=$(shell xmlrpc-c-config libwww-client --libs) which automaticly generates the lines for the library dependencies for libxmlrpc. I think I should use my own simple implementation instead og libxmlrpc. Regards, Holger [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]$ make gcc -O2 -DDEBUG -D'SVN_REV=18M' -c fgcom.c gcc -O2 -DDEBUG -D'SVN_REV=18M' -I/usr/include -c xmlrpc.c gcc -s fgcom.o xmlrpc.o -o fgcom -lm -liaxclient -lportaudio -lspeex -lgsm -L/usr/lib64 -L/usr/lib64 -lwwwssl -lwwwxml -lxmltok -lxmlparse -lwwwzip -lwwwinit -lwwwapp -lwwwhtml -lwwwtelnet -lwwwnews -lwwwhttp -lwwwmime -lwwwgopher -lwwwftp -lwwwfile -lwwwdir -lwwwcache -lwwwstream -lwwwmux -lwwwtrans -lwwwcore -lwwwutils -lmd5 -ldl -lz -L/usr/lib64 -lssl -lcrypto -L/usr/lib64 -lcurl -L/usr/lib64 -lxmlrpc_client -lxmlrpc -lxmlrpc_util -lxmlrpc_xmlparse -lxmlrpc_xmltok -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib /usr/bin/ld: warning: libportaudio.so.0, needed by /usr/lib64/libiaxclient.so, may conflict with libportaudio.so.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]$ In spite of that compilation is finished and FGCOM is present. But with the launching of FGCOM here the result: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]$ ./fgcom ./fgcom - a communication radio based on VoIP with IAX/Asterisk (c)2007 by H. Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version 0.9 build 18M Using iaxclient library Version CVS-2006/09/17-16:59 JACK tmpdir identified as [/tmp] Erreur de segmentation [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]$ Last precision, my system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]$ uname -a Linux localhost 2.6.21-4mdvRT #1 PREEMPT Sun Jul 8 01:19:20 CEST 2007 x86_64 AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3100+ GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]$ gcc --version gcc (GCC) 4.2.1 20070704 (prerelease) (4.2.1-3mdv2008.0) Copyright © 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Ce logiciel est libre; voir les sources pour les conditions de copie. Il n'y a PAS GARANTIE; ni implicite pour le MARCHANDAGE ou pour un BUT PARTICULIER. [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]$ By hoping that these indications could be useful. Best regards. Emmanuel -- BARANGER Emmanuel http://helijah.free.fr http://helijah.free.fr/Pack_3D http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/flightgear.htm http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/H4-Hercules.htm http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/hangar.htm - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
