Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with terragear and building Australian scenery

2009-04-04 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi Jason,

Not sure why you did two posts of the same thing, but...

Maybe it is political? You do know that the 'missing'
DEM information is Capital Hill, Canberra ;=))

Tile e140s40/e149s36/5393832 is centered lat,lon -35.3125,149.125
and in Google Earth that looks like 'Capital Hill' ;=()

Seriously, you show you have -
5393848 -35.0625,149.125
through to
5393851 -35.0625,149.875
so your DEM data sort of runs out at -35.0625, while you
want down to -35.3125...

You do NOT say WHERE you got this DEM information from...

That is, what DEM/SRTM 'raw' data did you start with?
Where did you download it from?
What TG tool did you use to 'chop' it into .arr.gz?

With this information, may be able to help more.

Regards,

Geoff.
PS: I do not really think it is 'political' ;=))

On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 18:57 +1100, Jason Cox wrote:
 Hi all,
 been a while since I last tried this (about 3 years) and I am
 experiancing a few issues.
 
 I have STRM2 data that has been hgtchop'ed ok
 into ./work//SRTM2-Australia-3 , but when I run genapt it complains
 that the dem data dosn't exist ie
 
 
 genapts --input=/DATA/src/fg/data/Airports/apt.dat.gz --work=./work/
 --airport=YSCB 21 |grep -v Next |grep -v result
 
 Input file
 = /DATA/src/fg/data/Airports/apt.dat.gz   
 
 Terrain sources
 = 

   ./work//SRTM2-Africa-3  

   ./work//SRTM2-Australia-3   

   ./work//SRTM2-Eurasia-3 

   ./work//SRTM2-Islands-3 

   ./work//SRTM2-North_America-3   

   ./work//SRTM2-South_America-3   

   ./work//DEM-USGS-3  

   ./work//SRTM-30 

 Work directory
 = ./work/ 
 
 Nudge =
 10

 Longitude =
 -180:180  

 Latitude =
 -90:90
 
 Data version =
 810   
 
 Building
 YSCB  
   
 Runway count =
 2 
 
 Taxiway count =
 90

 e140s40/e149s36/5393832   

 18 -35.302717  149.196184 1
 BCN   

 14 -35.300541  149.1998900 0 ATC
 Tower 
   
 19 -35.290601  149.196704 1
 WS

 19 -35.300404  149.185850 1
 WS

 19 -35.299599  149.197176 1
 WS

 19 -35.311538  149.198463 1
 WS

 19 -35.313744  149.191470 1
 WS

 Building runway =
 17x   
  
 Runway num =
 '17x'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with terragear and building Australian scenery

2009-04-04 Thread Jason Cox
Geoff,
sorry for the double post, but I thought I had issues with my old and
new email address.
Anyway,the original hgt source was from
e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/Australia
This was 'wget' from the site back '06 and unfortunatly not available
now. I am cutting up the hgt file with 'gtchop 1 HGT/S38E150.hgt
SRTM2-Australia-3/' and it shows no errors.
Jason

On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 13:32 +0200, Geoff McLane wrote:
 Hi Jason,
 
 Not sure why you did two posts of the same thing, but...
 
 Maybe it is political? You do know that the 'missing'
 DEM information is Capital Hill, Canberra ;=))
 
 Tile e140s40/e149s36/5393832 is centered lat,lon -35.3125,149.125
 and in Google Earth that looks like 'Capital Hill' ;=()
 
 Seriously, you show you have -
 5393848 -35.0625,149.125
 through to
 5393851 -35.0625,149.875
 so your DEM data sort of runs out at -35.0625, while you
 want down to -35.3125...
 
 You do NOT say WHERE you got this DEM information from...
 
 That is, what DEM/SRTM 'raw' data did you start with?
 Where did you download it from?
 What TG tool did you use to 'chop' it into .arr.gz?
 
 With this information, may be able to help more.
 
 Regards,
 
 Geoff.
 PS: I do not really think it is 'political' ;=))
 
 On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 18:57 +1100, Jason Cox wrote:
  Hi all,
  been a while since I last tried this (about 3 years) and I am
  experiancing a few issues.
  
  I have STRM2 data that has been hgtchop'ed ok
  into ./work//SRTM2-Australia-3 , but when I run genapt it complains
  that the dem data dosn't exist ie
  
  
  genapts --input=/DATA/src/fg/data/Airports/apt.dat.gz --work=./work/
  --airport=YSCB 21 |grep -v Next |grep -v result
  
  Input file
  = /DATA/src/fg/data/Airports/apt.dat.gz 

  Terrain sources
  =   
   
./work//SRTM2-Africa-3
   
./work//SRTM2-Australia-3 
   
./work//SRTM2-Eurasia-3   
   
./work//SRTM2-Islands-3   
   
./work//SRTM2-North_America-3 
   
./work//SRTM2-South_America-3 
   
./work//DEM-USGS-3
   
./work//SRTM-30   
   
  Work directory
  = ./work/   

  Nudge =
  10  
   
  Longitude =
  -180:180
   
  Latitude =
  -90:90  

  Data version =
  810 

  Building
  YSCB
  
  Runway count =
  2   

  Taxiway count =
  90  
   
  e140s40/e149s36/5393832 
   
  18 -35.302717  149.196184 1
  BCN 
   
  14 -35.300541  149.1998900 0 ATC
  Tower   
  
  19 -35.290601  149.196704 1
  WS  
   
  19 -35.300404  149.185850 1
  WS  
   
  19 -35.299599  149.197176 1
  WS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with terragear and building Australian scenery

2009-04-04 Thread Jon Stockill
Jason Cox wrote:
 Geoff,
   sorry for the double post, but I thought I had issues with my old and
 new email address.
 Anyway,the original hgt source was from
 e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/Australia
 This was 'wget' from the site back '06 and unfortunatly not available
 now. I am cutting up the hgt file with 'gtchop 1 HGT/S38E150.hgt
 SRTM2-Australia-3/' and it shows no errors.

There's your problem - the data is 3 arcsec, not 1, so effectively 
you've shrunk it to 1/3 of its original size. Re-run hgtchop with 3 
instead of 1.

Jon


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with terragear and building Australian scenery

2009-04-04 Thread Jason Cox
Jon,
Thanks I will setting running again :)


On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 13:11 +0100, Jon Stockill wrote:
 Jason Cox wrote:
  Geoff,
  sorry for the double post, but I thought I had issues with my old and
  new email address.
  Anyway,the original hgt source was from
  e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/Australia
  This was 'wget' from the site back '06 and unfortunatly not available
  now. I am cutting up the hgt file with 'gtchop 1 HGT/S38E150.hgt
  SRTM2-Australia-3/' and it shows no errors.
 
 There's your problem - the data is 3 arcsec, not 1, so effectively 
 you've shrunk it to 1/3 of its original size. Re-run hgtchop with 3 
 instead of 1.
 
 Jon
 
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with terragear and building Australian scenery

2009-04-04 Thread Geoff McLane
On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 13:11 +0100, Jon Stockill wrote:
 Jason Cox wrote:
  Geoff,
  sorry for the double post, but I thought I had issues with my old and
  new email address.
  Anyway,the original hgt source was from
  e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/Australia
  This was 'wget' from the site back '06 and unfortunatly not available
  now. I am cutting up the hgt file with 'gtchop 1 HGT/S38E150.hgt
  SRTM2-Australia-3/' and it shows no errors.
 
 There's your problem - the data is 3 arcsec, not 1, so effectively 
 you've shrunk it to 1/3 of its original size. Re-run hgtchop with 3 
 instead of 1.
 
 Jon

Hi Jason,

Maybe Jon has hit the point - try 3 instead of 1 ;=)) thanks,
Jon...

And I think the 'new' location of the data is :-

NASA_WGET=ftp://e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/SRTM3/Australia;

But I have found a MISSING DEM block. I tried to do
Sydney, but found no S40E150 on the above FTP site

I found -
OZSET=S31E150 S31E151 S31E152 S31E153 S32E150 S32E151 \
S32E152 S32E153 S32E159 S33E150 S33E151 S33E152 S34E150 \
S34E151 S35E150 S35E151 S36E150 S37E150 S38E150

But could not find data for say S40E150???

My only alternative was to switch to using GLOBE data...

Cut from my makesyd script...
# (b) Try USGS DEM files
USEUSGS=1   # DEM data
# source =
http://edcwww.cr.usgs.gov/products/elevation/gtopo30/gtopo30.html

USGS_URL=http://edcftp.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/gtopo30/global/;
USGS_MIRROR=http://www1.gsi.go.jp/geowww/globalmap-gsi/gtopo30/data/global/;

#
OZ_USGS=http://edcftp.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/gtopo30/global/e140s10.tar.gz;

If you find any other (free) DEM/SRTM data for OZ, I would 
be most interested...

Regards,

Geoff.

PS: You can get my full makesyd script from :-
 http://geoffair.net/tmp/makesyd 
but it requires you have VMAP0 in a specific directory, but
maybe you are not using VMAP0... and be aware it FAILS.
See my developing page -
 http://geoffair.net/tmp/newscenery.htm 



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with terragear and building Australian scenery

2009-04-04 Thread Jason Cox
Geoff,
part of my plan is try and incorporate mif topo's into the mix of
elevation. I had a script somewhere that used Fred's fgsd xml format to
overlay the topo's elevation data on a tile and then export from fgsd to
build a new tile :)

Jason


On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 14:36 +0200, Geoff McLane wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 13:11 +0100, Jon Stockill wrote:
  Jason Cox wrote:
   Geoff,
 sorry for the double post, but I thought I had issues with my old and
   new email address.
   Anyway,the original hgt source was from
   e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/Australia
   This was 'wget' from the site back '06 and unfortunatly not available
   now. I am cutting up the hgt file with 'gtchop 1 HGT/S38E150.hgt
   SRTM2-Australia-3/' and it shows no errors.
  
  There's your problem - the data is 3 arcsec, not 1, so effectively 
  you've shrunk it to 1/3 of its original size. Re-run hgtchop with 3 
  instead of 1.
  
  Jon
 
 Hi Jason,
 
 Maybe Jon has hit the point - try 3 instead of 1 ;=)) thanks,
 Jon...
 
 And I think the 'new' location of the data is :-
 
 NASA_WGET=ftp://e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/SRTM3/Australia;
 
 But I have found a MISSING DEM block. I tried to do
 Sydney, but found no S40E150 on the above FTP site
 
 I found -
 OZSET=S31E150 S31E151 S31E152 S31E153 S32E150 S32E151 \
 S32E152 S32E153 S32E159 S33E150 S33E151 S33E152 S34E150 \
 S34E151 S35E150 S35E151 S36E150 S37E150 S38E150
 
 But could not find data for say S40E150???
 
 My only alternative was to switch to using GLOBE data...
 
 Cut from my makesyd script...
 # (b) Try USGS DEM files
 USEUSGS=1   # DEM data
 # source =
 http://edcwww.cr.usgs.gov/products/elevation/gtopo30/gtopo30.html
 
 USGS_URL=http://edcftp.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/gtopo30/global/;
 USGS_MIRROR=http://www1.gsi.go.jp/geowww/globalmap-gsi/gtopo30/data/global/;
 
 #
 OZ_USGS=http://edcftp.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/gtopo30/global/e140s10.tar.gz;
 
 If you find any other (free) DEM/SRTM data for OZ, I would 
 be most interested...
 
 Regards,
 
 Geoff.
 
 PS: You can get my full makesyd script from :-
  http://geoffair.net/tmp/makesyd 
 but it requires you have VMAP0 in a specific directory, but
 maybe you are not using VMAP0... and be aware it FAILS.
 See my developing page -
  http://geoffair.net/tmp/newscenery.htm 
 
 
 
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