Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Oliver Schroeder
Hi, On Tuesday 06 November 2007 07:56:22 Durk Talsma wrote: On Monday 05 November 2007 16:50, Csaba Halász wrote: Yeah! How about setting up an mp-server feeding in real traffic? Or even just AI? So that every client would see the same traffic. Note: This is moving into a slightly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Moore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oliver Schroeder wrote: Hi, On Tuesday 06 November 2007 07:56:22 Durk Talsma wrote: On Monday 05 November 2007 16:50, Csaba Halász wrote: Yeah! How about setting up an mp-server feeding in real traffic? Or even just AI? So that every client

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Carroll Barry wrote: I don't have access to a live feed but I'm hoping to get a delayed one perhaps, in the same way as fboweb @ http://www.fboweb.com/ has. Aviation Data Systems (who produce fboweb.com) are listed as a Class 1 ASDI Direct subscriber on the ASDI website - so they have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Carroll Barry
Hi Stuart, Thomas, Oliver Firstly thank-you to everyone so far, some good ideas have been put forward and It is seeming more likely that this might work. I don't have access to a live feed but I'm hoping to get a delayed one perhaps, in the same way as fboweb @ http://www.fboweb.com/ has.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Tim Moore wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oliver Schroeder wrote: I really think, setting up a mp-client which feeds traffic is the right way to go. That way it does not matter, if the traffic is real or artificial. And best of all, flightgear itself does

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Durk Talsma
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 09:25, Oliver Schroeder wrote: I really think, setting up a mp-client which feeds traffic is the right way to go. That way it does not matter, if the traffic is real or artificial. And best of all, flightgear itself does not need any changes at all. In fact, that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Durk Talsma
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 10:41, Tim Moore wrote: I'd be a bit concerned about the performance implications of this approach. If the intent is to run this program on the same machine as FlightGear, then there will need to be a fair amount of tuning to make sure that the real-time FlightGear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Durk Talsma
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 20:22, Durk Talsma wrote: Assuming that AI aircraft behave in a reasonably sane fashion, you'd only need to take care of elevation points across the runways and taxiways. These data could be sampled straight from the flightgear scenery, and perhaps stored locally on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Csaba Halász
On Nov 6, 2007 8:22 PM, Durk Talsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming that AI aircraft behave in a reasonably sane fashion, you'd only need to take care of elevation points across the runways and taxiways. These data could be sampled straight from the flightgear scenery, and perhaps stored

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread leee
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 06:56, Durk Talsma wrote: On Monday 05 November 2007 16:50, Csaba Halász wrote: On 11/5/07, Heiko Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Though I can't help you, it sounds for me like a very good feature for FlightGear! Real weather - real traffic - would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Heiko Schulz
hmmm... good idea for mp and network. But it still costs money to have internet and maybe some flightschools, which want to use FGFS don't want this because. I think there should be still a possibility to have this all on one pc without network. HHS --- leee [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread LeeE
There's no reason why it shouldn't run on the same box as FG - it could communicate via loopback or localhost. Ideally, FG would automatically start a local process to use if a net or lan server isn't specified. LeeE On Tuesday 06 November 2007 20:17, Heiko Schulz wrote: hmmm... good idea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Heiko Schulz
I'm not so keen on computing and programming - so if this works good, I don't see any problems! --- LeeE [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: There's no reason why it shouldn't run on the same box as FG - it could communicate via loopback or localhost. Ideally, FG would automatically start a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-06 Thread Heiko Schulz
I'm not so keen on computing and programming - so if this works good, I don't see any problems! --- LeeE [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: There's no reason why it shouldn't run on the same box as FG - it could communicate via loopback or localhost. Ideally, FG would automatically start a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Leidson Campos A. Ferreira
Hi Barry, I did a work to a Brazilian institute past year and the software to control the aircraft, in fact control the flighgear simulator, exactly like your project. I did a C module that interacts with Telnet server of FlightGear and controls the flight using the telnet properties/commands.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, Though I can't help you, it sounds for me like a very good feature for FlightGear! Real weather - real traffic - would be great! HHS --- Carroll Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hello all, I would like to use Flightgear to display real-time air traffic. At the moment I am using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Csaba Halász
On 11/5/07, Heiko Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Though I can't help you, it sounds for me like a very good feature for FlightGear! Real weather - real traffic - would be great! Yeah! How about setting up an mp-server feeding in real traffic? Or even just AI? So that every client would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Montag 05 November 2007 schrieb Carroll Barry: Hello all, I would like to use Flightgear to display real-time air traffic. At the moment I am using tracking data from this site: http://www.fly.faa.gov/ASDI/asdi.html What I would like to be able to do is to create and control aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Carroll Barry
the replies, Barry. -Original Message- From: Leidson Campos A. Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:32:26 -0300 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic Hi Barry, I did

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Carroll Barry
Hi Thomas, Thanks for the reply. Would your solution allow me to manually control what might be thousands or aircraft? I haven't looked into the multiplayer protocol yet because I am just using the standalone exe on my pc. Would I be correct in thinking that I would implement the following:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Montag 05 November 2007 schrieb Carroll Barry: Hi Thomas, Thanks for the reply. Would your solution allow me to manually control what might be thousands or aircraft? I haven't looked into the multiplayer protocol yet because I am just using the standalone exe on my pc. Would I be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- Carroll Barry wrote: Hello all, I would like to use Flightgear to display real-time air traffic. At the moment I am using tracking data from this site: http://www.fly.faa.gov/ASDI/asdi.html What I would like to be able to do is to create and control aircraft programmatically from a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Jon Stockill
Csaba Halász wrote: On 11/5/07, Heiko Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Though I can't help you, it sounds for me like a very good feature for FlightGear! Real weather - real traffic - would be great! Yeah! How about setting up an mp-server feeding in real traffic? Or even just AI? So

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Programmatic control of AI traffic

2007-11-05 Thread Durk Talsma
On Monday 05 November 2007 16:50, Csaba Halász wrote: On 11/5/07, Heiko Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Though I can't help you, it sounds for me like a very good feature for FlightGear! Real weather - real traffic - would be great! Yeah! How about setting up an mp-server feeding