Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear slow under Linux maximized window/ hardware upgrade recommendation

2005-03-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:38:22 -0800, Andy wrote in message 
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 Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  Kees Lemmens wrote:
   ATI is a disaster : horrible installation procedure.
 
  ..I use an ATI 9250 (Sapphire's 128bit AGP w128 memory) on standard
  Debian Sid X86Free DRI code
 
 Note that the ATI 92x0 cards are based on the R200

...R280, which I understand is a derated R200 variant.

 architecture (the Radeon 8500) and will work fine with the DRI
 drivers.  People who prefer running free software drivers to high
 end cards will want to use these, as they're currently the best
 ones available under DRI.  Any recent linux distribution will
 support them out of the box.
 
 Don't get a 9500 or X800 card, however, and expect it to work
 with DRI.  ATI stopped handing out programming information on
 their cards after the R200. :(

..which is why they should be boycotted.

..go with Nvidea.


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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear slow under Linux maximized window/ hardware upgrade recommendation

2005-03-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:46:44 -0600, Andrzej wrote in message 
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  2. I run latest version of the FG on both Win 2K and Mandrake 10.0
  (with  Nvidia drivers of course). However I note very strange
  behavior under  Linux. When the FG starts in the default window (I
  guess it is 640x480  or so), it performs quite well but when I try
  to resize/make  bigger/maximize the window everything starts
  crawling. I do not observe  it under Windows where it runs smoothly
  even under really high  resolutions. I am not sure if it is due to
  the Linux and Windows use  that 32MB of my poor GeForce differently
  or what? Any insight?
 
 
 First thx for all the replies. They helped me to narrow down the scope
  of the problem and I finally got the culprit. It turned out that
  under 
 both Linux and Windows very low FPS were related to the 32-bit color. 
 Once I changed it to 16-bit the improvement was dramatic. Also under 
 Linux that trouble with resizing the FG window is gone now.
 
 Here are some other observations:
   -I pretty much do not see any correlation between window size
   and the 
 FPS (unlike with some games)
   -CPU often hits 100%, but especially when I fly close to ground,
   it 
 drops to even 60%, all rendering options are on
   -glxgears cranks around 12000 FPS (which is definitely higher
   than 
 32-bit colors)
   -I have got FG FPS from 60 to 90. Completely sufficient and some
   room 
 for future.

..you cut your colors from 32bit to 16bit, ATI's cards are all 24bit,
how are your 24bit framerates?

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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.




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[Flightgear-users] FlightGear gets slow under Linux when resizing window

2005-03-17 Thread Andrzej Leszczynski
2. I run latest version of the FG on both Win 2K and Mandrake 10.0 
(with Nvidia drivers of course). However I note very strange behavior 
under Linux. When the FG starts in the default window (I guess it is 
640x480 or so), it performs quite well but when I try to resize/make 
bigger/maximize the window everything starts crawling. I do not 
observe it under Windows where it runs smoothly even under really high 
resolutions. I am not sure if it is due to the Linux and Windows use 
that 32MB of my poor GeForce differently or what? Any insight?

Unfortunately problem somehow returned. I even compiled FG out of CVS
(plus all fresh libs it depends on) in order to test it and it still
persists. I attach links to three jpg (generated on the previous .92 
version)
	1.jpg -before - 64 FPS
	2.jpg -during resizing - it takes 5-15 seconds
	3.jpg -after - 1 FPS

Have you any idea what is going on?
http://home.comcast.net/~leszczynscy/1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~leszczynscy/2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~leszczynscy/3.jpg
Thx,
A.
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