Re: FLUXLIST: Professionalism

2000-08-29 Thread Roger Stevens
"You know you're an art student when..." you turn up for college after a particularly heavy party only to discover the college was closed three years ago

Re: FLUXLIST: Professionalism

2000-08-23 Thread meryl
My, my, my, my, my, my, oh my, but I quite agree. I am an x-art student and can say with some authority, art students are useless (with some exceptions-Devon). I was a lousy student (mostly due to my excessive alcohol and chemical intake that made actually attending classes quite a bother). My

Re: FLUXLIST: Professionalism

2000-08-23 Thread Reed Altemus
Badgergirl Yes, I guess I flamed a bit there. I probably won't leave the list since I've been on it for three years and to hear validating input from you was just OK. The combination of Ken leaving the list due to harrassment from Eric Anderson and his coterie and the various

Re: FLUXLIST: Professionalism

2000-08-23 Thread Eryk Salvaggio
Art students have some hope, they're just misdirected idealists. They'll succeed when they quit being art students and just realize they were never better artists than they were when they were five and did the stuff that seemed to make sense in a weird way. Like my first fluxus artifact, age

Re: FLUXLIST: Professionalism

2000-08-23 Thread Reed Altemus
Eryk I recently recounted the first occurance of a mail art nature in my life. I was in fifth grade at Shady Side Academy in Pittsburg Pennsylvania. My teacher's name was Mrs. Lively. One day after a party I launched a helium balloon from the window of a second story room with a note asking

Re: FLUXLIST: Professionalism

2000-08-23 Thread meryl
Reed (and anyone else) Was that flaming? Nah, I don't think so. It was justifiable venting. Very healthy really, good way to avoid ulcers and other nasty aesthetic blocks. You're right though, people (Americans in particular)are taught very early on that pleasure is "bad" and that self

Re: FLUXLIST: Professionalism

2000-08-23 Thread Reed Altemus
meryl wrote: You're right though, people (Americans in particular)are taught very early on that pleasure is "bad" and that self indulgence is always a sign of weakness. All the flux artists I know of (particularly those most active in the 50s and 60s) seemed to understand this or faked it

Re: FLUXLIST: Professionalism

2000-08-23 Thread David Baptiste Chirot
Actually I think Americans think of hedonism as a sign of strength: look at Our Leader, good ol' Bill-- Do What Thou Wilt--sounds great in theory, but in practise can prove to put it at its most absolutely milquetoast mildest--"a bummer, man" Back in the good