FLUXLIST: wifeswap

2006-01-04 Thread alanfffo



I saw wifeswap on tv when i was back in the uk on me holidays.

if the ABC verion is anything like the one i saw, DON'T do it. (unless the 
money is reeeaaalll good - yes i am that cynical!)

i got the impression that the nasty, stupid, ignorant people where played up 
and made into false celebrities, encouraged to play on their bad traits, and 
the more decent folks, well made to look a little foolish.  that's just from 
the few episodes that i saw though.



they do a lot of clever editing to make good TV.  reality tv is such a 
misnomer, but 'cleverly manipulated people and sharp editing of events that 
really happened to make scandalously degrading programmes which keep the masses 
gripped tv' isn't that snappy a title for a genre.



i don't know, perhaps you should do it and simply refuse to toe the line.



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RE: FLUXLIST: wifeswap

2006-01-04 Thread Don Boyd

Ilike the idea, Alan, only let's use your suggested title! -Don



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Re: FLUXLIST: Some things I did today

2006-01-04 Thread Don Boyd
mEIKAL- I think you should do it! Then the entire fluxus world could watch 
you and cheer you on.
(we would be on to the inside joke and know it was a fluxus send-up and 
would not be critical of you and then that could result in a book project 
for you later) -Don




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FLUXLIST: RE: WifeSwap

2006-01-04 Thread Allan Revich
1) it could be a lot of fun
2) It might be very Fluxus
3) If I were you, I'd be reluctant to do it. No matter what you want to get
across, the producers will televise only what makes good TV.
4) On the other hand... if your flux is very powerful - who knows what might
happen!

Allan

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I was contacted today by the casting producer of WIFESWAP, a reality  
TV show on ABC which takes the wife out of one house  put's her in  
the family of someone quite opposite.  This is potentially extreme  
Fluxus.  The producer insists that its a good way to get your message  
out to 10 million people.  Everybody in our circle says we should do  
it, but I'm still not convinced.

2006 is gonna be different,

~mIEKAL

On Jan 3, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Allan Revich wrote:

 Penguins:

 1) Amazing cinematography
 2) Fun and interesting to watch
 3) Made m very glad that I am not a penguin

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 Allan, What did you think of PENGUINS? My wife and I saw it and  
 found it
 riveting. We bought the dvd. -Don



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Re: FLUXLIST: RE: WifeSwap

2006-01-04 Thread mIEKAL aND
The whole thing seems kinda like Fluxus happening circa 1963, at it's  
most perverse.  I've been trying to come up with all the possible  
subtle ways to infiltrate the shooting with our brand of culture  
jamming.  Obvious things are to plaster all the walls with art,  
slogans, pancakes  install sound sculptures, invite the weird  
friends over at inopportune times.  But, quite truthfully I have  
severe reservations about the whole thing, even tho my partner  my  
son are totally gungho.  The show seems to be focused on  
psychological  idealogical clashes  tensions between people from  
very different backgrounds, which I really shy away from  have  
little interest in.  I'm trying to get to the point where I can have  
fun with it  not be scared its gonna fuck up my life.  It would be  
quite interest to hear other ideas about subverting this thing,  
especially from folks who have experience with mainstream media



On Jan 4, 2006, at 8:53 PM, Allan Revich wrote:


1) it could be a lot of fun
2) It might be very Fluxus
3) If I were you, I'd be reluctant to do it. No matter what you  
want to get

across, the producers will televise only what makes good TV.
4) On the other hand... if your flux is very powerful - who knows  
what might

happen!

Allan

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

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Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:30 PM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Some things I did today

I was contacted today by the casting producer of WIFESWAP, a reality
TV show on ABC which takes the wife out of one house  put's her in
the family of someone quite opposite.  This is potentially extreme
Fluxus.  The producer insists that its a good way to get your message
out to 10 million people.  Everybody in our circle says we should do
it, but I'm still not convinced.

2006 is gonna be different,

~mIEKAL

On Jan 3, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Allan Revich wrote:


Penguins:

1) Amazing cinematography
2) Fun and interesting to watch
3) Made m very glad that I am not a penguin