Re: FLUXLIST: a state of mind

2000-03-25 Thread Patricia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 03/24/2000 6:10:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fluxus is like a joke in that you "get it" or you don't whatabout: fluxus is like a state of mind in which "no-preconception is the pre-condition to discovery"?

Re: FLUXLIST: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
art books and "find" artists whose work interests me. Flux dada etc. was never taught me. All to fill in the big gaps. Fluxus and Dada was to new for serious discussion in school. But it was no problem, to study the things directly. Max Ernst was born some miles from here, in Bruehl. And there

Re: FLUXLIST: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
Population explosion -- the sudden flood of "new entrants" into a cultural field is major explanation of why cultural fields change, according to sociologists of art like Pierre Bourdieu (who's work I greatly admire). And why is french art today so boring ? The pill ??? No, I dont believe

Re: FLUXLIST: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
How would you call the time between the cage class and this armystyle artmovement with general, officers and soldiers, with Al Hanson dissenting, "Prefluxus" ? any meaningful sense as thatcranky old fart, George Maciunas. Thanks a lot ;-)

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
As a joke Dada is definitely NOT overrated. Some Dada on the other hand was dead serious, like Berlin Dada. Jokes dont have to be funny. Its rather easy to sit in 2000 and

FLUXLIST: get or don't get

2000-03-25 Thread narvis ...pez
At 12:04 am -0800 25/3/00, Patricia wrote: I think Roger got it. Right. ok, that's a point "get" or don't "get" requires an intuitive leap (the state of no pre-conception). in this sense, a task of fluxus art is to translate the insight into clear. logical explanations, to be open to

Re: FLUXLIST: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread George Free
Heiko writes: Population explosion -- the sudden flood of "new entrants" into a cultural field is major explanation of why cultural fields change, according to sociologists of art like Pierre Bourdieu (who's work I greatly admire). And why is french art today so boring ? The pill ???

Re: FLUXLIST: get or don't get

2000-03-25 Thread Carol Starr
and isn't it interesting when you think some one had their eye on the beam and then they go blank and somewhat irritable. c :) carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think Roger got it. Right. ok, that's a point "get" or don't "get" requires an intuitive leap (the state

Re: FLUXLIST: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread Ann Klefstad
Different in the US. It was hard to find out about here, at least in the midwest. AK -- From: Heiko Recktenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Why? Date: Saturday, March 25, 2000 12:31 AM art books and "find" artists whose work interests me. Flux

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread R.Gancie/C.Parcelli
Heiko Recktenwald wrote: As a joke Dada is definitely NOT overrated. Some Dada on the other hand was dead serious, like Berlin Dada. I'd always been taught, too, to view Dada as the work of hip pranksters who were always on the lookout for a joke. I was startled when I finally read

Re: FLUXLIST: get or don't get

2000-03-25 Thread Patricia
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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
finally read Hugo Ball's Flight Out of Time: A Dada Diary. I was surprised at the depth of sadness directly involved in the movement over I allways think to old style living rooms, from the time before WWi, compared to what Bauhaus etc did. It wasnt changing furnitures alone. Greetings, H.

Re: FLUXLIST: a state of mind

2000-03-25 Thread BestPoet
In a message dated 03/25/2000 3:01:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 03/24/2000 6:10:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fluxus is like a joke in that you "get it" or you don't whatabout:

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; This is a good point Heiko. The goodness of the roots of reality and depth of meaning always seems to get boiled out by the constant attendance. Why does everything end up like clichés? If anyone read my earlier post of the reminiscences of art school one could easily surmise

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Re: FLUXLIST: get or don't get

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Re: FLUXLIST: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread George Free
Heiko writes: The "baby boom" is to simple as an explanation for what was going on in the 60s, my first idea when I read this. I agree. Its not a matter simply of a quantitative population increase, but of the effect that this increase has on the existing social structure (see below).

Re: FLUXLIST: get or don't get

2000-03-25 Thread Patricia
No, no, don't be afraid, he's an enlightened fluxbunny, he found his third eye, brought it out, and now wears it as fluxbunny chapeau decor. It bounces when he leaps, though, and, like a good fluxbunny, he often documents the fluxbunny leap events and records where he lands and the ensuing

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread Reed Altemus
Rosalie Heiko If you read Flight Out of Time you'll see the deeply spiritual feeling out of which Dada in Zurich (at least Hugo Ball and Emmy Hennings) grew. And when it was over, Ball being very religious lost his mind. RA "R.Gancie/C.Parcelli" wrote: Heiko Recktenwald wrote: As a

Re: FLUXLIST: a state of mind

2000-03-25 Thread Reed Altemus
I'll second that. RA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 03/24/2000 6:10:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fluxus is like a joke in that you "get it" or you don't whatabout: fluxus is like a state of mind in which "no-preconception is the

Re: FLUXLIST: get or don't get

2000-03-25 Thread Carol Starr
there are alot of those rabbits out here on the prairie and they are all named jack. fast little critters. they hang out with the prairie dogs. does your bunny meditate alot? sure way to develope the third eye. best, c :) carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 25 Mar