FLUXLIST: Dung beetles (was: Prank Phone Call Performances)

2000-06-27 Thread Eryk Salvaggio
Well ann, thanks for that lovely scenario; but what i was suggesting was not that anyone had a responsibility to hear anyone out but that it could in the long term provide a good deal of inspiration and could end up being worth the time. I by no means asserted that anyone should get raped in

Re: FLUXLIST: Dung beetles (was: Prank Phone Call Performances)

2000-06-27 Thread ann klefstad
I called for no violence directed at you; I asked you to imagine such an event, as you seemed perhaps deficient in empathy. If you didn't see the post in question it may be difficult for you to speak of it accurately. It was very similar to an obscene phone call (which is not a prank phone

FLUXLIST: Re: travesty trial transgression

2000-06-27 Thread { brad brace }
last words little lists bit players mean nothing to anyone /:b

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury (Ann's good faith)

2000-06-27 Thread { brad brace }
social disintegration and simmering discontent human kind's self-alienation as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order: in the cynical 00's melancholy itself becomes a kind of commodity The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project since 1994 + + + serial

FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #357

2000-06-27 Thread CHAMPOY
i'm trying to make artworks out of my feces by trying to eat different kinds of foods and drinking some edible coloringsany suggestions what other kinds of food that i might eat to produce such a very interesting effect on my feces. -champoy hate

Re: FLUXLIST: Dung beetles (was: Prank Phone Call Performances)

2000-06-27 Thread BestPoet
In a message dated 06/27/2000 2:49:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at Burroughs, Kerouac, Neil Cassidy, Allen Ginsberg. The beats took obscenity to a whole new level of art; perhaps the deterioration of the values in america and the world will now form a new

Re: FLUXLIST: H.Flynt:Brend:www

2000-06-27 Thread St.Auby Tamas
High! On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Patricia wrote: Help Voila: AGAINST "PARTICIPATION": A Total Critique of Culture Henry Flynt (c) 1994 Henry A. Flynt, Jr. in lieu of Part IV, Chapter 11 "Brend," chapter from From "Culture" to Brend Consider the whole of your life, what you already

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury (Ann's good faith)

2000-06-27 Thread BestPoet
In a message dated 06/27/2000 5:05:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in the cynical 00's melancholy itself becomes a kind of commodity I think it's now officially been term the 0-dec. (oh-dec) for 00 decade. So that would read, " . . . in the cynical 0-dec . . ."

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: travesty trial transgression

2000-06-27 Thread BestPoet
In a message dated 06/27/2000 4:12:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: last words little lists bit players mean nothing to anyone Brace yourself for Brad's chomping at the bit players . . .

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: trial [freedom from transgression]

2000-06-27 Thread BestPoet
In a message dated 06/27/2000 1:09:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . Making sex beautiful, that's trangressive. In other words, letting transgression be beside the point, neither courted nor avoided, and pursuing, with avidity, what one loves. Defending, with

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: trial [freedom from transgression]

2000-06-27 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If manditory transgression is written into the job description of a particular group of individuals (artists), and if this is depended upon by another group(s) of people (art enthusiasts) for amusement and/ or reassurance, then how can those who wish to be 'truly'

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: trial [freedom from transgression]

2000-06-27 Thread David Baptiste Chirot
Thank you Owen for a good point, the one of Crow's. In her essay "Composition as Explanation" Gertrude Stein relates how art, new art, is just a step ahead of what rapidly becomes familiar, not only in commerical but also military terms, objects, actions. She recounts walking

FLUXLIST: Phone Call Performances, Dung Beetles and the rest

2000-06-27 Thread Owen Smith
The specifics aside, not to say that these concerns are not important, but another point has been missed and that is that the phone is an interesting medium for performances and interactive works. There was a show a few years ago in which anyone could call in and leave a message and then the

Re: FLUXLIST: Phone Call Performances, Dung Beetles and the rest

2000-06-27 Thread David Baptiste Chirot
Also, in the 1920's, El Lissitsky had the idea of creating works by "phoning them in"--phoning in the instructions for their making to the person or persons who would make the work according to the caller's specifications. --dbchirot On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Owen Smith wrote: The

FLUXLIST: Obscene phone calls ....

2000-06-27 Thread Ken Friedman
Men do occasionally receive obscene phone calls. It is rare, but it happens. When I lived in New York, I got an obscene phone call late one night. I experienced the same anxiety and discomfort my woman friends reported on experiencing an unknown stranger muttering half-audible obscenities in my

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury (Ann's good faith)

2000-06-27 Thread { brad brace }
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 06/27/2000 5:05:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in the cynical 00's melancholy itself becomes a kind of commodity I think it's now officially been term the 0-dec. (oh-dec) for 00 decade. So

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: travesty trial transgression

2000-06-27 Thread Carol Starr
my solution to brad brace: DELETE! carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, { brad brace } wrote: last words little lists bit players mean nothing to anyone /:b

Re: FLUXLIST: Dung beetles (was: Prank Phone Call Performances)

2000-06-27 Thread ann klefstad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 06/27/2000 3:00:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kathy Acker's treatments of obscenity might interest you; they hold more interest for me than the rather stale patriarchal guilt/desire of, say, Miller. I think it

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #357

2000-06-27 Thread Carol Starr
last winter the mice ate my paint sticks and had multicolour feces so you might try that. gosh, i should have made an art piece out of it but i just threw it away and killed the mice. carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: trial [freedom from transgression]

2000-06-27 Thread ann klefstad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 06/27/2000 1:09:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . Making sex beautiful, that's trangressive. In other words, letting transgression be beside the point, neither courted nor avoided, and pursuing, with avidity,

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #357

2000-06-27 Thread ann klefstad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 06/27/2000 5:37:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'm trying to make artworks out of my feces by trying to eat different kinds of foods and drinking some edible coloringsany suggestions what other kinds of food

FLUXLIST: Re: stamps

2000-06-27 Thread Carol Starr
hi PK, in today's nytimes.com wonderful, as i told kiku this morning, don't you love it? best, Carol :) :) :) CALGARY JOURNAL Topple the Queen! Enthrone Yourself on a Stamp For Canadians tired of airbrushed photos of the queen on their

Re: FLUXLIST: Dung beetles (was: Prank Phone Call Performances)

2000-06-27 Thread Sol Nte
Eryk wrote: Look at Burroughs, Kerouac, Neil Cassidy, Allen Ginsberg. The beats took obscenity to a whole new level of art I would say that only Burroughs worked with obscenity as any kind of concept and even then did he do more with obscenity than DeSade who predates him? Burroughs obscenity

Re: FLUXLIST: Dung beetles (was: Prank Phone Call Performances)

2000-06-27 Thread Eryk Salvaggio
I considered the "lacking empathy" remark a dis, by all means, and found it an unusually strong reaction to a discussion of the phone as a medium. But hey, I guess you can pull that off when you're a list owner. In my experience I have been the target of several prank phone calls, including and

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury (Ann's good faith)

2000-06-27 Thread BestPoet
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 06/27/2000 5:05:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in the cynical 00's melancholy itself becomes a kind of commodity I think it's now officially been term the 0-dec. (oh-dec) for 00

Re: FLUXLIST: Dung beetles (was: Prank Phone Call Performances)

2000-06-27 Thread BestPoet
I have no idea what that had to do with me being a sociopath, but hey. Did someone call you a sociopath? Missed that, and certainly I don't think of you as a sociopath. But I do feel everyone is on a path of some sort. BP

FLUXLIST: [Fwd: SERVICE 2000]

2000-06-27 Thread Chris Paul
fluxlisters may enjoy these sites ... Original Message Subject: SERVICE 2000 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 01:05:06 + From: mailerbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SERVICE 2000 29 Uncommissioned Web Sites Available Now From the Following Locations:-

FLUXLIST: Transgressions

2000-06-27 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
A single act... The other reaction would have been to let him in and bombard him with apropriate answers in personal mails. Offlist. Btw, I one forwarded something, that did offend people very much, at least it was said so, still cant really understand it, the date rape file. Couldnt we combine

FLUXLIST: calling

2000-06-27 Thread narvis ...pez
allan kaprow's "calling" (1965) in the city, peole stand at street corners and wait. FOR EACH OF THEM: a car pulls up, someone calls out a name, the persons gets in, they drive off. during the trip, the person is wrapped in aluminium foil. the car is parked somewhere, is left there, locked;

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-27 Thread George Free
I believe someone else posted this quotation. As for myself, I don't get it. Lined paper is a useful technology which I find helpful. I also find it helpful when people write from left to right, though thoughtful alternatives can be stimulating ;-) George wrote: “If they give you lined paper,

FLUXLIST: botticelli's venus...

2000-06-27 Thread narvis ...pez
coats to shore on the half-shell. sexual love is a deep sea diving the timeless and elemental . g. wilson knight says, 'life rose from the sea. our bodies are there three parts water and our minds compacted of salty lusts.'27 woman's body reeks of the sea. ferenczi says, ' the genital secretion

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #357

2000-06-27 Thread { brad brace }
Easy. Beet greens. /:b On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, CHAMPOY wrote: i'm trying to make artworks out of my feces by trying to eat different kinds of foods and drinking some edible coloringsany suggestions what other kinds of food that i might eat to produce such a very interesting effect on

Re: FLUXLIST: Dung beetles (was: Prank Phone Call Performances)

2000-06-27 Thread BestPoet
In a message dated 06/27/2000 10:30:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kathy Acker's treatments of obscenity might interest you; they hold more interest for me than the rather stale patriarchal guilt/desire of, say, Miller. I think it was Foucault who

FLUXLIST: Random act of shopping

2000-06-27 Thread allen bukoff
There was this ballot box I put up for sale on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=348343143 and at least one person (you know who you are Patricia/PK Harris) wanted to know who the winning bidder was and why he/she bought it. Here's my original reply and the winning

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #357

2000-06-27 Thread Crisarc2000
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