Re: FLUXLIST: Re: bukoff, andersen and real fluxus

2005-01-10 Thread Allan Revich



Yahooo!

Something to look forward to.

  the only good 
  artists are dead artists-isn't that always the way? 



FLUXLIST: Re: bukoff, andersen and real fluxus

2005-01-09 Thread Georg Birkner
i was strongly opposing the idea of kicking off death couple from the 
list back then. but i have to admit that the content of the list is AT 
LEAST 2'715 times as interesting and productive as it used to be after 
they were kicked off. i do not really see many a reason to re-invite 
them.

i still remember that many fluxlisters were rather shocked  when eric 
was kicked off together with these freaks and it seems to me that the 
actual list of names that were removed was pretty much put togehter by 
allen one day. but i doubt that eric desperately wants to come back and 
i also doubt that many of us really miss his rather unkind if not to 
say terribly destructive way of writing, even if he was the only 
remaining original flux person ever to write on this list (except for 
ken friedman, way back some 100 years ago or something).

about allens letter (allen, are you still on the list or not?):
it is indeed a bit strange that allen be so angry about not being 
recognized as a member of fluxus by the old guard. hey - there's a 
strong dada movement in zurich at the moment (http://www.kroesus.org/). 
for those who are not into art history - dada was invited here in 
zurich some 80 years ago. none of the original artists are alive, no 
art historian would ever mention these neo dada people together with 
tristan tsara  and the likes. but they just call themselves dada. not 
neo dada or dudu or anything, because dada is what they do. it's just a 
label. like hip hop or punk. no band would ever say, i want 
grandmaster flash to officially declare that i am doing hip hop. they 
are just doing hip hop and will make their way into hip hop history if 
they are good enough.

to stick with the hip hop analogy: we are fluxus atitsts. some other 
people have been doing this before. what they have been doing is called 
old school fluxus today and deserves maximum respect. yo!

that is that.
georg
Am 09.01.2005 um 11:53 schrieb FLUXLIST-digest:
I think that Eric Anderson and anyone else including Death Couple 
should have
an open invitatation to come back to Fluxlist. Speaking as someone who 
was
nearly kicked off the list (well... actually maybe I was ,,not really 
sure) I
think we should reinstate all former Fluxlisters as honorees. by Madawg

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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: bukoff, andersen and real fluxus

2005-01-09 Thread ArtnAnts

In a message dated 1/9/05 8:30:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


dada was invited here in
zurich some 80 years ago. none of the original artists are alive,


the only good artists are dead artists-isn't that always the way?