On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, David Baptiste Chirot wrote:
camouflage in a sense, as with the vanishing bunkers, is very much
a manifestation of the vanishing of qualities both in their menacing and
their defeated aspects of war machines and structures
a recent example is the Stealth
Disco, welcome !
In "Bluebeard" by kirt Vonagunt, The main character, Raboo Karabekien (or
there abouts) was in a platoon of artists that worked to camouflage tanks
and trucks and such. Same idea.
Had a snippet from a newspaper some time over my desk, think it was from
this 80s exhibition.
Merci Bien Bertrand--
vous avez droit (et vous avez aussi le droit!)
(you are right--and you you also have the right)
a month or so ago I fwded to the fluxlist the announcement that
preparatins are begun for the preparation of ar t be dne in space
in the
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recounts walking with Picasso thrugh the streets of war time Paris (First
World War) and seeing camouflaged tanks--
"we have already done that" Picasso says--in reference to Cubism.
Likewise Marinetti's Futurist
I'd add that the french army did asked to modern painters, amongst whom
happened to be cubists painters, like André Mare, to work on the camouflage
of the tanks, and to conceive them in the "camouflage section" of the
Artillery corp as soon as the very beginning of 1915.
On this subject, see
In a message dated 06/27/2000 1:09:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
. Making sex beautiful, that's trangressive.
In other words, letting transgression be beside the point, neither courted
nor
avoided, and pursuing, with avidity, what one loves. Defending, with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If manditory transgression is written into the job description of a
particular group of individuals (artists), and if this is depended upon
by another group(s) of people (art enthusiasts) for amusement and/ or
reassurance, then how can those who wish to be 'truly'
Thank you Owen for a good point, the one of Crow's.
In her essay "Composition as Explanation" Gertrude Stein relates
how art, new art, is just a step ahead of what rapidly becomes familiar,
not only in commerical but also military terms, objects, actions. She
recounts walking
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 06/27/2000 1:09:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
. Making sex beautiful, that's trangressive.
In other words, letting transgression be beside the point, neither courted
nor
avoided, and pursuing, with avidity,
In a mail timed and dated 08:57 PM 6/25/00 -0700, the incredibly
pretentious ? took the time to write:
The cultural absorbtion and conscious or unconscious perpetuation of
this model (the artist as neccessarily subversive/ transgressive) by
artists and 'non-artists' alike, severly limits
Owen wrote:
.
Insteadof this point of view it seems to me that these participatory
performances are really a/the heart of Fluxus where it ceases to be
oppositional (or have any interest in such traditional categories) and
partakes in a simple joy of acting and living.
Didn't
scott rigby wrote:
If manditory transgression is written into the job description of a
particular group of individuals (artists), and if this is depended upon
by another group(s) of people (art enthusiasts) for amusement and/ or
reassurance, then how can those who wish to be 'truly'
says BestPoet:
. Making sex beautiful, that's trangressive.
In other words, letting transgression be beside the point, neither courted nor
avoided, and pursuing, with avidity, what one loves. Defending, with avidity,
what one loves.
AK
If Piss Christ was transgression for transgressions sake, it did a good job:
It managed to be beautiful and offensive at the same time. "if the revolution is
not
beautiful it is useless."
Accidental discourse is really the only kind.
everything else is masturbation.
-e.
ann klefstad
How do
ideas of free communication, liberty, responsibility, play out in an
examination of art practices meant to be transgressive? Is the
importance of the ends what decides the ethicality of a practice? Or is
transgressiveness the end in itself, justified by the degree of
stultification it
In a message dated 06/25/2000 11:19:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PA UBU.- Hornstrumpot! we shall not have succeeded in demolishing
everything until we have demolished the ruins as well. But the only way
I can see of doing that is to use them to put up a lot of fine,
This is a really interesting thread for me. It's made me think about:
1. What's the point of transgression when the transgressor (artist?) is so
impotent heshe can only act it out on against other artists on an artist
list. Isn't that like the "cannilbalism of the left" that went on the the
The cultural absorbtion and conscious or unconscious perpetuation of
this model (the artist as neccessarily subversive/ transgressive) by
artists and 'non-artists' alike, severly limits the freedom of artists
to participate in the transgression of rigid cultural norms, procedures,
notions/
If they give you lined paper, write the other way.
Bruce Conner
The cultural absorbtion and conscious or unconscious perpetuation of
this model (the artist as neccessarily subversive/ transgressive) by
artists and 'non-artists' alike, severly limits the freedom of artists
to participate
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