The PataPata project (by me) attempted to bring some ideas for Squeak and
Self to Python about five years ago. A post mortem critique on it from four
years ago:
PataPata critique: the good, the bad, the ugly
http://patapata.sourceforge.net/critique.html
I am wondering if there is some
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 8:28 PM, John Zabroski johnzabro...@gmail.com wrote:
Why are we stuck with such poor architecture?
A bad language attracts bad code. ;)
Bye,
Waldemar
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Django on App Engine, MongoDB, ...? Browser-side Python? It's open-source:
Even modern technology like Windows Phone 7 encourages, as part of their App
Store submission guidelines, that the app hardwire support for two screen
resolutions. This is bizarre considering the underlying graphics
implementation is resolution-independent.
These bad choices add up. As Gerry
On 10/8/10 1:51 PM, Waldemar Kornewald wrote:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Paul D. Fernhout
pdfernh...@kurtz-fernhout.com wrote:
The PataPata project (by me) attempted to bring some ideas for Squeak and
Self to Python about five years ago. A post mortem critique on it from four
years ago:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Paul D. Fernhout
pdfernh...@kurtz-fernhout.com wrote:
But, the big picture issue I wanted to raise isn't about prototypes. It as
about more general issues -- like how do we have general tools that let us
look at all sorts of computing abstractions?
In
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your detailed post. It's inspiring me to share a little
about my current work and understanding of VPRI's general approach
(though, again, I should remind folks that I don't represent VPRI even
though I had the pleasure of working closely with Ian in the past).
You've cited
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:28 AM, John Zabroski johnzabro...@gmail.com wrote:
JavaScript also doesn't support true delegation, as in the Actors Model of
computation.
Also, Sencha Ext Designer is an abomination. It is a fundamental
misunderstanding of the Web and how to glue together chunks of
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Paul D. Fernhout
pdfernh...@kurtz-fernhout.com wrote:
It's totally stupid to use JavaScript as a VM for world peace since it
would be a lot better if every web page ran in its own well-designed VM and
you could create content that just compiled to the VM, and the
On 10/8/10 3:51 PM, Michael FIG wrote:
So, in short, I think we need exactly one level of abstraction above
the Semantic Web in order to make a true end run in the convergence
game. Legacy systems of all sorts need to be described and preserved,
not rewritten and rearchitected in a
I think type is a foundationaly bad idea. What matters is that the object in
question can respond intelligently to the message you're passing it. Or at
least, that's what I think right now, anyway. It seems like type specification
(and as such, early binding) have a very limited real use in the
But wait. I think we need more complex types than are even allowed. When we
actually compute something on the back of an envelope, we have been taught
to carry all the units along explicitly, but when we set it up for a really
stupid computer to do it automatically, we are forbidden, almost
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