Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread Steve Wart
True. If I'm writing code I probably want to be sitting at a desk to do it. And I imagine Gauss or Euler sitting at a desk in the middle ages writing on parchment, not trying to scribble something down on a notebook while barreling down the streets in their equivalent of a daily commute. Still,

Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread David Leibs
To see how far you can scale visual node programming I recommend looking at Pure Data, Quartz Composer, and LabView. Also interesting is Little Big Planet. On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Brian Gilman wrote: Clearly there are some gaps in the programming models of this new era. How can people

Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread Julian Leviston
On 21/12/2010, at 4:51 AM, Steve Wart wrote: So is there anything interesting from a FONC perspective in mobile devices? It may be a coincidence that Apple's success with the iPhone is to a large extent due to a Smalltalk-derived C dialect, but most people who know Smalltalk would agree that

Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread Julian Leviston
On 21/12/2010, at 6:07 AM, Brian Gilman wrote: I think that the fundamental problem is that keyboards are good for entering text, and text scales very well. Artists and musicians tend to heavily favor visual node based programming, which is a better fit for mobile platforms. Just drag

Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread Steve Wart
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Julian Leviston jul...@leviston.net wrote: On 21/12/2010, at 4:51 AM, Steve Wart wrote: So is there anything interesting from a FONC perspective in mobile devices? It may be a coincidence that Apple's success with the iPhone is to a large extent due to a

Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread Steve Wart
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Julian Leviston jul...@leviston.net wrote: On 21/12/2010, at 12:00 PM, Steve Wart wrote: I used Objective-C pretty much every day for the past 2 years, but for the past 6 months I've been coding in Smalltalk (good old VisualWorks/Envy and GemStone) again.