Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-14 Thread David Barbour
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Casey Ransberger wrote: > But in general... my computer is only a tiny bit faster than the one I had > in the early nineties. In terms of day to day stuff, it's only gotten a > tinsy bit faster. Sometimes I sit there looking at an hourglass or a beach > ball and

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-14 Thread Casey Ransberger
Inline and greatly abridged. On Dec 14, 2011, at 5:09 PM, "Jecel Assumpcao Jr." wrote: > About Joss, we normally like to plot computer improvement on a log > scale. But if you look at it on a linear scale, you see that many years > go by initially where we don't see any change. So the relative

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-14 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr.
Karl Ramberg wrote: > One of Alans points in his talk is that students should be using bleeding edge > hardware, not just regular laptops. I think he is right for some part but he > also > recollected the Joss environment which was done on a machine about to be > scraped. Some research and develo

Re: [fonc] Debugging PEGs and Packrats

2011-12-14 Thread Matthew Blount
http://languagejs.com/ is a JavaScript PEG library written for the Cappuccino project that claims to have a good approach to error handling. >From the page: The most unique addition Language.js makes to PEG is how it handles errors. > No parse ever fails in Language.js, instead SyntaxErrorNodes ar

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-14 Thread karl ramberg
One of Alans points in his talk is that students should be using bleeding edge hardware, not just regular laptops. I think he is right for some part but he also recollected the Joss environment which was done on a machine about to be scraped. Some research and development does not need the bleeding

Re: [fonc] Debugging PEGs and Packrats

2011-12-14 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:35:06 +0100, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > I've experimented in what little time I can devote with OMeta, PetitParser, > > and Treetop. The debugging experience has been roughly consistent across > > all three. > > Casey, did you try the PetitParser IDE? If so, what did you

Re: [fonc] Debugging PEGs and Packrats

2011-12-14 Thread Casey Ransberger
I overlooked the IDE completely. I'll check it out as soon as I can. Thanks for the pointer:) On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> I've experimented in what little time I can devote with OMeta, PetitParser, >> and Treetop. The debugging experience has been roughly consistent a

Re: [fonc] Debugging PEGs and Packrats

2011-12-14 Thread Lukas Renggli
> I've experimented in what little time I can devote with OMeta, PetitParser, > and Treetop. The debugging experience has been roughly consistent across all > three. Casey, did you try the PetitParser IDE? If so, what did you miss? If not, please check it out (http://jenkins.lukas-renggli.ch/jo