Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread Kirk Fraser
Most likely your personal skills at natural language are insufficient to understand Revelation in the Bible, like mine were until I spent lots of time learning. Now I can predict the current Pope Francis will eventually help create the 7 nation Islamic Caliphate with 3 extra-national military

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread karl ramberg
! Karl On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.comwrote: Most likely your personal skills at natural language are insufficient to understand Revelation in the Bible, like mine were until I spent lots of time learning. Now I can predict the current Pope Francis will

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread John Carlson
I once hear it said that Jesus didn't tell us to be perfect, instead he told us to mature and bear good fruit. Have you? On Apr 6, 2013 5:32 AM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.com wrote: Most likely your personal skills at natural language are insufficient to understand Revelation in the

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread John Carlson
Sorry. I meant heard. Obviously I am imperfect. I have read Foucault's Pendulum, however. Maybe we should start quoting it instead of the Bible. On Apr 6, 2013 9:36 AM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote: I once hear it said that Jesus didn't tell us to be perfect, instead he told us to

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread John Carlson
My favorite Umberto Eco quote from Foucault's Pendulum is vous etes fou (sorry english keyboard).▲ On Apr 6, 2013 9:53 AM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I meant heard. Obviously I am imperfect. I have read Foucault's Pendulum, however. Maybe we should start quoting it

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread John Carlson
When I was studying Revelation in the 1980s. We thought this same scripture referred to the European Union. We also thought that Jesus had to return by 1988, because that was one generation past when the Jews returned to Israel in 1948. It seems that god has a way of overturning predictions.

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread BGB
On 4/6/2013 10:59 AM, John Carlson wrote: When I was studying Revelation in the 1980s. We thought this same scripture referred to the European Union. We also thought that Jesus had to return by 1988, because that was one generation past when the Jews returned to Israel in 1948. It seems

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread John Carlson
The Lord will return like a thief in the night: http://bible.cc/1_thessalonians/5-2.htm Is this predictable? Is there more than one return? Jews believe in one Messiah. Christians believe in 2 Messiahs (Jesus and his return). Anyone for 3 or 4 or more? On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:12 AM, BGB

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 12:08:35PM -0500, John Carlson wrote: The Lord will return like a thief in the night: http://bible.cc/1_thessalonians/5-2.htm Is this predictable? Is there more than one return? Jews believe in one Messiah. Christians believe in 2 Messiahs (Jesus and his return).

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread John Carlson
And by 2028, we will be living 120 years or more, which will extend the end-event even more. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:12 AM, BGB cr88...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/6/2013 10:59 AM, John Carlson wrote: When I was studying Revelation in the 1980s. We thought this same scripture referred to the

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread Reuben Thomas
On 6 April 2013 18:09, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 12:08:35PM -0500, John Carlson wrote: The Lord will return like a thief in the night: http://bible.cc/1_thessalonians/5-2.htm Is this predictable? Is there more than one return? Jews believe in one

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread BGB
On 4/6/2013 12:13 PM, Reuben Thomas wrote: On 6 April 2013 18:09, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org mailto:eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 12:08:35PM -0500, John Carlson wrote: The Lord will return like a thief in the night: http://bible.cc/1_thessalonians/5-2.htm

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread Kim Rose
Excuse me, but when did this list turn into a forum for religious /bible discussion? Can we get back to issues in computing, please? Thank you, Kim Rose Viewpoints Research Viewpoints Research is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to improving powerful ideas education for the

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread Fernando Cacciola
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 2:58 PM, BGB cr88...@gmail.com wrote: expecting everyone to agree on much of anything is probably unrealistic... Yet there is one thing we can all agree on... that we cannot all agree on one thing. -- Fernando Cacciola SciSoft Consulting, Founder

[fonc] Layering, Thinking and Computing

2013-04-06 Thread Julian Leviston
Something on the recent discussion titled Natural Language Wins got me thinking: a lot of people seem to have the opinion the language a person communicates in locks them into a certain way of thinking. I'm interested in this with respect to programming languages. I've encountered numerous