Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-18 Thread Alan Kay
Hi David This is an interesting slant on a 50+ year old paramount problem (and one that is even more important today). Licklider called it the communicating with aliens problem. He said 50 years ago this month that if we succeed in constructing the 'intergalactic network' then our main

[fonc] Quick off topic question

2013-04-18 Thread John Carlson
Does anyone have a fast API for getting/putting the nth line of a file? This would replace a relational way of storing strings, caching is acceptable. C++ is preferred. ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-18 Thread Jeff Gonis
Hi Alan, Your metaphor brought up a connection that I have been thinking about for a while, but I unfortunately don't have enough breadth of knowledge to know if the connection is worthwhile or not, so I am throwing it out there to this list to see what people think. If figuring out module

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-18 Thread Alan Kay
The basic idea is to find really fundamental questions about negotiating about meaning, and to invent mental and computer tools to help. David is quite right to complain about the current state of things in this area -- but -- for example -- I don't know of anyone trying a discovery system

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-18 Thread David Barbour
Well, communicating with genuine aliens would probably best be solved by multi-modal machine-learning techniques. The ML community already has techniques for two machines to teach one another their vocabularies, and thus build a strong correspondence. Of course, if we have space alien visitors,

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-18 Thread Alan Kay
Hi David We are being invaded by stupid aliens aka our's and other people's software. The gods who made their spaceships are on vacation and didn't care about intercommunication (is this a modern version of the Tower of Babel?). Discovery can take a long time (and probably should) but might

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-18 Thread Pascal J. Bourguignon
Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com writes: Hi David This is an interesting slant on a 50+ year old paramount problem (and one that is even more important today). Licklider called it the communicating with aliens problem. He said 50 years ago this month that if we succeed in constructing the