Re: [fonc] Stephen Wolfram on the Wolfram Language

2014-09-24 Thread David Leibs
I think Stephen is misrepresenting the Wolfram Language when he says it is a big language. He is really talking about the built in library which is indeed huge. The language proper is actually simple, powerful, and lispy. -David On Sep 24, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org wrote:

Re: [fonc] Task management in a world without apps.

2013-10-31 Thread David Leibs
that are worse can have more mindshare in the arena of public opinion. Worse is Better sounds like some kind of apology to me. cheers, -David Leibs On Oct 31, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com wrote: Unfortunately, a big factor is also the first-to-market pressure

Re: [fonc] Task management in a world without apps.

2013-10-31 Thread David Leibs
In the spirit of equivocation when I look at the world we live in and and note the trends then I feel worse, not better. -David Leibs On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:10 AM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote: The phrase Worse is better involves an equivocation - the 'worse' and 'better

Re: [fonc] The Web Will Die When OOP Dies

2012-06-17 Thread David Leibs
minutes then I am not doing anything. -David Leibs On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:49 AM, GrrrWaaa wrote: On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:17 PM, David Leibs wrote: As children we spend a lot of time practicing adding up numbers. Humans are very bad at this if you measure making a silly error as bad. Take

Re: [fonc] The Web Will Die When OOP Dies

2012-06-17 Thread David Leibs
Thanks for the link. This thread has had me thinking quite a bit about the Central Limit Theorem from probability. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_limit_theorem It explains why so many of our measurements result in normal distributions. -David Leibs On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:36 AM, GrrrWaaa

Re: [fonc] The Web Will Die When OOP Dies

2012-06-15 Thread David Leibs
this as an example of going back and looking at a beginning that is hard to see because it is just too darn fundamental. We need to reduce complexity at all levels and that includes the culture we swim in. cheers, -David Leibs On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:58 AM, BGB wrote: On 6/15/2012 12:27 PM, Paul Homer wrote

Re: [fonc] The Web Will Die When OOP Dies

2012-06-15 Thread David Leibs
multiply then all is lost. I guess that's a job for the motivation teacher. :-) -David Leibs On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: David Leibs david.le...@oracle.com writes: I have kinda lost track of this thread so forgive me if I wander off in a perpendicular

Re: [fonc] Extending object oriented programming in Smalltalk

2011-08-18 Thread David Leibs
Your point about politics is so true. Check out a great classic paper by Mel Conway at: http://www.melconway.com/Home/Committees_Paper.html Any organization that designs a system (defined broadly) will produce a design whose structure is a copy of the organization's communication

Re: [fonc] Extending object oriented programming in Smalltalk

2011-08-18 Thread David Leibs
Old Timer Alert!Ah, 1956. I was seven years old and Robby the Robot from the science fiction movie "Forbidden Planet" had just leaped into popular culture. Robby was an awesome automatous AI. The movie was really quite something for 1956. Faster than light travel, cool space ship, 3d printers,

Re: [fonc] Extending object oriented programming in Smalltalk

2011-08-17 Thread David Leibs
On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: There is a paper on PIE (and many other interesting systems) in Barstow/Shrobe/Sandewall's Interactive Programming Environments. Used copies for 1 cent (like many outdated computer books): http://www.amazon.com/dp/0070038856

Re: [fonc] Extending object oriented programming in Smalltalk

2011-08-17 Thread David Leibs
Hi Sean, Two books that I like quite a lot are: Anatomy of Lisp by John Allen. It's a classic from the golden age. Lisp in Small Pieces by Christian Queninnec. It's a modern classic. -David On Aug 17, 2011, at 11:00 AM, DeNigris Sean wrote: Alan, While we're on the subject,

Re: [fonc] Last programming language

2011-07-17 Thread David Leibs
I couldn't handle his condescending attitude towards goto statements. I might not use them very often but when you need one there is nothing better. -David Leibs On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Craig Latta wrote: That talk would have been a whole lot better if he had grounded

Re: Terseness, precedence, deprogramming (was Re: [fonc] languages)

2011-06-05 Thread David Leibs
, Parallel expression in the apl2 language, IBM Syst. J. 30 (1991), no. 4, 498–512. -David Leibs ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread David Leibs
To see how far you can scale visual node programming I recommend looking at Pure Data, Quartz Composer, and LabView. Also interesting is Little Big Planet. On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Brian Gilman wrote: Clearly there are some gaps in the programming models of this new era. How can people

Re: [fonc] goals

2010-07-09 Thread David Leibs
. cheers, -David Leibs ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] goals

2010-07-09 Thread David Leibs
impossible in the the traditional open- source project. It's just an experiment, though. It's research (or, if you prefer, intellectual masturbation). If we already knew the outcome, it wouldn't be research, would it? -- Max On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:33 AM, David Leibs david.le...@oracle.com wrote