Re: [fonc] Tension between meta-object protocol and encapsulation

2011-10-18 Thread Casey Ransberger
Top-post: thanks for your reply. I'll check this stuff out. Somehow I missed this when you sent it. Casey On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:50 PM, David Barbour wrote: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Casey Ransberger > wrote: > It seems to me that there is tension here, forces pulling in orthogonal

Re: [fonc] Tension between meta-object protocol and encapsulation

2011-10-17 Thread Kurt Stephens
On 9/7/11 3:50 PM, David Barbour wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Casey Ransberger mailto:casey.obrie...@gmail.com>> wrote: It seems to me that there is tension here, forces pulling in orthogonal directions. In systems which include a MOP, it seems as though encapsulation is s

Re: [fonc] Tension between meta-object protocol and encapsulation

2011-09-07 Thread Alan Kay
Yep. Cheers, Alan > >From: David Barbour >To: Fundamentals of New Computing >Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:50 PM >Subject: Re: [fonc] Tension between meta-object protocol and encapsulation > > >On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12

Re: [fonc] Tension between meta-object protocol and encapsulation

2011-09-07 Thread David Barbour
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Casey Ransberger wrote: > It seems to me that there is tension here, forces pulling in orthogonal > directions. In systems which include a MOP, it seems as though encapsulation > is sort of hosed at will. Certainly I'm not arguing against the MOP, it's > one of the

Re: [fonc] Tension between meta-object protocol and encapsulation

2011-09-07 Thread Alan Kay
eers, Alan > >From: Casey Ransberger >To: Fundamentals of New Computing >Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:48 PM >Subject: [fonc] Tension between meta-object protocol and encapsulation > > >This has been bugging me for awhile. This

[fonc] Tension between meta-object protocol and encapsulation

2011-09-07 Thread Casey Ransberger
This has been bugging me for awhile. This seems like the best forum to ask about it. "With great power comes great responsibility." This quotation is hard to pin down. There are several versions of it to be found. This particular phrasing of the statement probably belongs to Stan Lee, but I think