Re: [fonc] Growing Objects?

2010-10-16 Thread spir
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:10:05 -0400 Chris Gahan ch...@ill-logic.com wrote: I think so too. Genetic Programming always struck me as quite wasteful because your algorithm doesn't care about *why* any of your offspring succeeded or failed. Intelligence has been a huge evolutionary boon because

Re: [fonc] Growing Objects?

2010-10-15 Thread Murat Girgin
Cunningham's Extreme Genetic Programming might be of interest: http://www.neocoretechs.com/. Murat On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:33 AM, John Nilsson j...@milsson.nu wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Casey Ransberger casey.obrie...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder: what if all we did was write

Re: [fonc] Growing Objects?

2010-10-15 Thread Max OrHai
Also, some interesting research along these lines by Stephanie Forrest of the University of New Mexico: http://genprog.adaptive.cs.unm.edu/ -- Max On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Murat Girgin gir...@gmail.com wrote: Cunningham's Extreme Genetic Programming might be of interest:

Re: [fonc] Growing Objects?

2010-10-15 Thread frank
I think genetic programming is probably most interesting if you don't write a mere battery of black-box tests for the fitness evaluation. It would be much cooler to have code that reasons about the candidat solutions, and see how much of each is proovably correct, IMHO. =) Casey Ransberger

Re: [fonc] Growing Objects?

2010-10-15 Thread Chris Gahan
I think so too. Genetic Programming always struck me as quite wasteful because your algorithm doesn't care about *why* any of your offspring succeeded or failed. Intelligence has been a huge evolutionary boon because it allows critters to learn from the mistakes of others, and then over time

Re: [fonc] Growing Objects?

2010-10-14 Thread Josh McDonald
I'd say the biggest problem is more in the selection than generation / mutation. In the world, it's easy to determine the winner - he passes on more of his genes. But if we've got two potential solutions, neither of which actually pass the test, how do we select which to continue mutating, and

Re: [fonc] Growing Objects?

2010-10-14 Thread Julian Leviston
On 15/10/2010, at 12:20 PM, Casey Ransberger wrote: The previous thread about testing got me thinking about this again. One of the biggest problems I have in the large with getting developers to write tests is the burden of maintaining the tests when the code changes. I have this wacky

Re: [fonc] Growing Objects?

2010-10-14 Thread Faré
On 14 October 2010 21:20, Casey Ransberger casey.obrie...@gmail.com wrote: The previous thread about testing got me thinking about this again. One of the biggest problems I have in the large with getting developers to write tests is the burden of maintaining the tests when the code changes.