Re: [fonc] Programming Language Theory Stack Exchange
You're assuming that QA is a good way to discuss a topic in depth. Personally, I don't. (IMHO) Stack exchange is great for technical support, and quick research into questions - not so great for discussing topics in depth. For the avowed purpose of influenc(ing) and foster(ing) interest, in the development of new programming languages I kind of think of ACM Transactions on Programming Languages and Systems. For learn(ing) more about the subject or hav(ing) their doubts elucidated I think of a good textbook. For interactive discussion - I personally find blog format (essay + responses discussion) to work quite well (coupled with a good search function). Again - just one man's opinion. Julian Leviston wrote: Nope... If you go here: http://stackoverflow.com ...you'll notice that there's a clear heading saying top questions, and it's very clear that there are questions and answers under that. Particularly the Ask Question button on its own. The structure, design and layout of the site informs the purpose very clearly. Contrast this with the freeform wiki nature of LTU which doesn't really have a layout... Julian. http://www.getcontented.com.au/ - You Need *GetContented *-**Make Websites, Not War! On 28 Sep 2014, at 2:12 pm, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Silly question, perhaps, but isn't that true of a stack exchange site as well? Julian Leviston wrote: I think because of a lack of overview. When you go there initially, you're immediately reading the latest article, which, if you understand the context and what the site is, is fine... but if you don't, then it can be confusing. Julian http://www.getcontented.com.au/ - You Need *GetContented *-**The Best Thing Since Sliced Websites! :) On 28 Sep 2014, at 12:58 pm, Trevor Wennblom tre...@umn.edu mailto:tre...@umn.edu mailto:tre...@umn.edu wrote: How so Julian? Hehe. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Julian Leviston jul...@leviston.net mailto:jul...@leviston.net mailto:jul...@leviston.net wrote: Hehe that's interesting. I'd never associated LTU with modern languages. I'm not sure why. Possibly because of the archaic UX and UI. It's incredibly difficult to parse. J http://www.getcontented.com.au/ - You Need *GetContented *-**Get Your Website Happy. :) On 28 Sep 2014, at 12:37 am, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: David Barbour wrote: A proposed stack exchange for programming language theory has reached commitment phase. It needs two hundred people. If you're interested in PL, please participate: For those not aware of it, the starting point for discussions of programming language theory is http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org mailto:fonc@vpri.org mailto:fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org mailto:fonc@vpri.org mailto:fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org mailto:fonc@vpri.org mailto:fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org mailto:fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org mailto:fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Programming Language Theory Stack Exchange
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: You're assuming that QA is a good way to discuss a topic in depth. I believe you're misreading Julian. AFAICT, he's said nothing about the utility of the discussions on each site. QA can be good for depth - see Socratic method. But a site like StackExchange doesn't support follow-up questions to take advantage of that point. I believe a PL StackExchange site can fill a niche that LtU does not. ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Programming Language Theory Stack Exchange
For anybody interested in this sort of site: I while ago I found myself asking for something more frequently updated and less-demanding of a math degree than LtU, but without all the silicon valley VC navelgazing of HN. A friend pointed me to https://lobste.rs/ which so far seems to have a nice balance. Cheers, -Josh -- Enjoy every sandwich. - WZ Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald - j...@joshmcdonald.info On 29 September 2014 00:23, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: You're assuming that QA is a good way to discuss a topic in depth. I believe you're misreading Julian. AFAICT, he's said nothing about the utility of the discussions on each site. QA can be good for depth - see Socratic method. But a site like StackExchange doesn't support follow-up questions to take advantage of that point. I believe a PL StackExchange site can fill a niche that LtU does not. ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Programming Language Theory Stack Exchange
David Barbour wrote: A proposed stack exchange for programming language theory has reached commitment phase. It needs two hundred people. If you're interested in PL, please participate: For those not aware of it, the starting point for discussions of programming language theory is http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Programming Language Theory Stack Exchange
Hehe that's interesting. I'd never associated LTU with modern languages. I'm not sure why. Possibly because of the archaic UX and UI. It's incredibly difficult to parse. J http://www.getcontented.com.au/ - You Need GetContented - Get Your Website Happy. :) On 28 Sep 2014, at 12:37 am, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: David Barbour wrote: A proposed stack exchange for programming language theory has reached commitment phase. It needs two hundred people. If you're interested in PL, please participate: For those not aware of it, the starting point for discussions of programming language theory is http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Programming Language Theory Stack Exchange
How so Julian? Hehe. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Julian Leviston jul...@leviston.net wrote: Hehe that's interesting. I'd never associated LTU with modern languages. I'm not sure why. Possibly because of the archaic UX and UI. It's incredibly difficult to parse. J http://www.getcontented.com.au/ - You Need *GetContented *- Get Your Website Happy. :) On 28 Sep 2014, at 12:37 am, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: David Barbour wrote: A proposed stack exchange for programming language theory has reached commitment phase. It needs two hundred people. If you're interested in PL, please participate: For those not aware of it, the starting point for discussions of programming language theory is http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
