RE: block-containers with BPD set

2005-01-26 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Anyway, maybe I should ask the question in a different way: Given a block-container where the BPD is specified, are its children subject to column/page breaking if the whole block-container doesn't fit into the

RE: block-containers with BPD set

2005-01-26 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
try sending a message to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' -Original Message- From: Feifei Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 26 januari 2005 22:16 To: fop-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: RE: block-containers with BPD set please remove my email address in this list. Thanks.

RE: block-containers with BPD set

2005-01-26 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Victor Mote [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 26 januari 2005 21:49 Just to be clear (not argumentative), I was saying something quite different. For the example that Andreas has given, my understanding is that there would only be one child viewport

RE: replace extension bookmarks with XSL 1.1 ones?

2004-12-16 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Andreas L. Delmelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Glen, the XSL 1.1 WD, but since that's all it is ATM, a 'Working Draft', changing their namespace might be a bit premature (?[*]), They're coming very close (I

RE: replace extension bookmarks with XSL 1.1 ones?

2004-12-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Glen, Very much in favor of changing the extension elements' names to conform with the XSL 1.1 WD, but since that's all it is ATM, a 'Working Draft', changing their namespace might be a bit premature (?[*]), unless we

RE: Good news: Jeremias has been elected as an ASF member!

2004-12-04 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the great pleasure to announce that Jeremias Maerki has been elected as an ASF member at the last member's meeting during ApacheCon. (Better late than never :-)) Congratulations! Well-deserved!

For our American readers...

2004-11-25 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
Happy Thanksgiving! (--that is the 25th, right? :-P) Greetz, Andreas

RE: Unnecessary zipping and backups?

2004-11-24 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The Web Maestro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a similar note, I am 'contemplating' committing the xml-fop/build/ folder ('built' by apache-forrest-0.6). My reasoning for this is two-fold: 1. it contains the FOP

RE: Unnecessary zipping and backups?

2004-11-24 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: The Web Maestro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, Andreas is correct that the site is built from the source (and I didn't forget that! ;-)). Yeah, make them sweat at least as hard as you --that way, your effort will be even more appreciated :-) Greetz,

RE: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/pagination Root.java

2004-11-22 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.0's bookmarks are different from 0.20.5's, the former has fox:bookmarks as the parent element. It's been that way in 1.0 for a long time, before I came on board I believe. Yes, and it even has been discussed this

RE: [Bug 32253] - Marker bugs

2004-11-20 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Me:] which is then supposed to be rendered as two very large letters 'A' and 'B' with, for example, a story in very small letters in between. snip / The layout you describe can be achieved using an

RE: FOP Web site updated

2004-11-20 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Web Maestro Clay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Maestro, I updated the Apache FOP web site. It now uses Apache Forrest 0.6, a new skin/theme and (drum roll please...) new FOP logo. (fireworks) Yeah! (applause) Oooh! (more applause) Aaah! Compliments on a

RE: [Bug 32253] - Marker bugs

2004-11-19 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Luca Furini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, A block inside an inline inside a block snip / creates: a) 3 different paragraphs too: snip / b) a single paragraph with all the text: snip / I'd say a), but I'm not sure. My very first thought was a) too, but

RE: [Bug 32253] - Marker bugs

2004-11-19 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just noticed a slight error... Maybe something like this makes it clearer: fo:block font-size=40pt A fo:inline font-size=6pt fo:block The smaller font-size should be added as a property to the inner

RE: [Bug 32253] - Marker bugs

2004-11-17 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Simon, ...Sorry for the inconvenience in the mean time. You must be joking! Inconvenience? Far from it. The remarks/additions so far have been very helpful. Nobody --ahem, certainly not me-- expects you to solve

RE: [Bug 32253] - Marker bugs

2004-11-17 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Luca Furini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Simon Pepping wrote: Hi Luca / Simon, Marker extends FObjMixed, which adds InlineStackingLM. snip / I still have to really understand InlineStackingLM, I find it very enigmatic! It generates inline areas, but it has

RE: [Bug 32253] - Marker bugs

2004-11-17 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / That would definitely solve the second case, but still leaves the first. Hmm.. On second thought, that would ultimately depend on: - the parent of fo:retrieve-marker - the child of fo:marker if fo:inline

RE: FW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32201] - please, provide a manpage

2004-11-17 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Andreas L. Delmelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not too fond of this type of arguments: everybody/nobody else is doing it, so why shouldn't/should we... Hey, I like that argument! For example, no other Apache project

RE: FW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32201] - please, provide a manpage

2004-11-16 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Manpages are usually for C-language Correct so far. Unix-specific applications, no? Hmm... The manpages themselves obviously are Unix-specific, but I'm not so sure whether the applications always are or necessarily have

RE: Absent markers throw a ClassCastException in LineLM

2004-11-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
Moving this issue to bugzilla. -Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reporting this here, since for some reason can't connect to nagoya.apache.org... is it just me or does anyone else have this problem too?)

RE: Absent markers throw a ClassCastException in LineLM

2004-11-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 10:11:01PM +0100, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: While running some tests after updating to include Luca's latest patch (bugzilla 31206), I get a ClassCastException in LineLM.getNextBreakPoss

RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32174] - Rendering fails with IndexOutOfBoundsException in LineLayoutManager

2004-11-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
Simon, I applied a quick and dirty hack to prevent this Exception in the case of Andreas' test file. It will throw away the linebreak though. There is actually no linebreak to throw away --it's a non-breaking space (A0) not a linefeed (0A), so your 'quick and dirty hack' may just be what we

FW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32201] - please, provide a manpage

2004-11-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
Team, What do others think of this question? If all our *nix users would benefit from it, I'm all for (--but I'm not all too familiar with the syntax of manpages... yet ;-) Is the format generic enough to be supported by all *nix platforms, or would we have to write separate ones for Debian /

RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32201] - please, provide a manpage

2004-11-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FWIW, here're a couple of Man Page HowTos: Thank you, Maestro! (saved me the time to look them up, hehe ;-) ) It really sounds like a good 'marketing' idea to me (if this would facilitate bundling with the different

RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32201] - please, provide a manpage

2004-11-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / When [argh!] the site goes live [argh!] it will be there. ([argh] still struggling with Compliance Page and a couple of other 'little' problems...). But I've still got a cheery attitude about it! Well, FWIW, from

FW: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/pagination Root.java

2004-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Modified:src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/pagination Root.java Log: changed 'bookmarks' to 'outline' to avoid ValidateException for bookmarks extension Hope the use of the bookmarks extension wasn't

RE: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/pagination Root.java

2004-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / Hope the use of the bookmarks extension wasn't meant to be changed in HEAD. Oops. Just noticed that a Bookmarks class has been added to the extensions package... What's going to be the prescribed usage

RE: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/pagination Root.java

2004-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ignore this thread. Found the answer in the archives... Sorry for the nuisance. Greetz, Andreas

Absent markers throw a ClassCastException in LineLM

2004-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
Hi, (Reporting this here, since for some reason can't connect to nagoya.apache.org... is it just me or does anyone else have this problem too?) While running some tests after updating to include Luca's latest patch (bugzilla 31206), I get a ClassCastException in LineLM.getNextBreakPoss() line

RE: remove LayoutManager.initialize()?

2004-11-10 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Glen, Does anyone have a problem if I worked towards removing the initialize() method from our LayoutManager interface? No objections here at first glance, however ... (see below) The relatively few cases in our

RE: Apache XMLGraphics 'blurb' for ApacheCon 2004

2004-11-08 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 8, 2004, at 5:44 AM, Glen Mazza wrote: I signed up for ApacheCon last night so I'll be there next week. Glen Wish I could be there to meet you, Glen. Same here... Vegas, right? Drag yourself away from

RE: aXSL (Was: RE: Exceptions. (Was: AreaFactory patch))

2004-11-07 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Victor Mote [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi guys, (Just catching up on the postings of the last few days, this one caught my eye...) although I'm still a bit concerned that you based your PDF part on the maintenance branch code

RE: Exceptions (was: AreaFactory patch)

2004-11-03 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Would anyone expect that Defoe would subclass SAXException for document validation errors? If not (it doesn't), why not? Yes, if you use a SAX parser, why not? My point is that at the top-level, no SAXExceptions

RE: AreaFactory patch

2004-11-03 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Victor Mote [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Victor, I know better than to take this bait, but ... No matter... +1 for starters It has already been pointed out that, if the Visitor stuff was so terribly complex, there were other solutions that could be

RE: AreaFactory patch

2004-11-03 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I disagree with you that FOP should have ceased all development during the four or five months you were off the list. Open-source doesn't work that way. Hmmm... One question: Are you so bent on misinterpreting one's

RE: AreaFactory patch

2004-11-02 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Chris Bowditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Glen Mazza wrote: Personally speaking, I am much more amenable to adding some complexity (LM Makers, for example, or opening up our validation) if it helps out Finn's work, because of the sheer weight of

RE: AreaFactory patch

2004-11-01 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Tibor Vyletel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have attached first phase (a working example) of the refactoring I was talking about in my previous mails. Please let me know, if this change is acceptable for you. If it is, I will finish it afterwards. Just

RE: Exception hierarchy.

2004-10-27 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / As the definition of its parent SAXException[1] states, This class can contain basic error or warning information from either the XML parser *or the application* So it can be used within FOP. True, but I still

RE: Exception hierarchy.

2004-10-26 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Glen, I'm confused--why is OK to throw SAXExceptions but not its child SAXParseExceptions? With the latter, it just holds locator information necessary to pinpoint the problem for the user. Please elaborate. It

RE: Handling XML parse errors when using identity transform.

2004-10-21 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Finn Bock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Finn, Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but the javax.xml.transform.Transformer class does offer a setErrorListener() method to use a custom Error Handler... IIUC, all we have yet to do is provide an

RE: Handling XML parse errors when using identity transform.

2004-10-21 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Finn Bock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but the javax.xml.transform.Transformer class does offer a setErrorListener() method to use a custom Error Handler... snip / [Finn:] I couldn't get that working. As I see

RE: Handling XML parse errors when using identity transform.

2004-10-21 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Finn:] I couldn't get that working. As I see the it, the SAXException from the xml parsing is not passed through to the ErrorListener. The source code from xalan confirms that. No ErrorHandler is passed

RE: Performance improvement in property consumption.

2004-10-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Finn Bock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there, [Glen] Why is it more efficient (I know it is, given your metrics, but want to know why)--... snip / In my proposal the specified and the cached properties are still stored in the property list but only the

RE: can't find default configuration file

2004-05-25 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Clay, Thanks for the heads up, Andreas. I'll keep that in mind. Does this mean one should do something like this for Unix: That was exactly what I meant, indeed. Not sure whether it's about the shell script

RE: Justification and line breaking

2004-05-24 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Chris Bowditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chris, snip / Is anyone else on the team planning on making large commits over the next couple of days? I would be grateful if you could hold off for a couple of days whilst the problems with this large patch are

Fixing break-* properties

2004-05-24 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
Hi, In attempting to fix the break-before and break-after properties, I noticed two methods that are commented out in PropertyManager, checkBreakBefore() and checkBreakAfter() --used in maintenance branch to keep track of possibly enforced page- or column-breaks. I can only assume that the

RE: Trait.ID_AREA

2004-05-20 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Tibor Vyletel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, In previous versions (builds) of FOP areas have had set ID_AREA trait in order to allow identification of original FONodes (and XML elements) they had been created from. Why is this feature missing in recent

RE: Markers

2004-05-20 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Chris Bowditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chris, snip / the markers are added to pageViewport in the BLM.addAreas method. Now my understanding is that addAreas are called once the BPs have been processed and the areas are about to be rendered. So how is

RE: Markers

2004-05-20 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / Maybe sheds some light on the situation. As to what needs to be done to fix it... no particular idea for the moment. Just ran a few tests of my own, with FOP's examples/fo/markers/hide.fo, and I could

RE: Table processing question - follow-up

2004-05-18 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Chris Bowditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chris, snip / This makes sense - what effect would you expect width on table cell to have? I maybe missing something, but the width is derived from table column and cant be overridden for a single cell. Indeed,

RE: Table processing question - follow-up

2004-05-18 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Arnd, snip / As far as I understand the spec, table-column elements with a column-width property are mandatory for tables with fixed table layout. *Vry* good point! Yup, got me there... I was mixing the

RE: Table processing question

2004-05-17 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Chris Bowditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chris, snip / Huh? This is not true. Follow the link you provided to the spec. table-rows can have background and border properties (when border-collapse is on) Hmm.. Yes, but... these properties are not

RE: Table processing question - follow-up

2004-05-17 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posting this as a follow-up to my earlier ponderings. If we don't get it implemented, or postpone this one indefinitely, at least we'll have it nicely summed up for possible future use... (Who knows, maybe parts

RE: Table processing question - follow-up

2004-05-17 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, Andreas, sorry for not responding to your emails on this thread, I'm juggling a bit much right now, Well, don't worry about that... Just posting this all to see if it's just in my head, or all crazy talk --and if not

Table processing question

2004-05-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
Hi fellas, As I awoke recently, trying to pick up where I left off end of January this year (see bug 25933), and started digging deeper into the current status of table-processing in HEAD, noticed the following in the FO Tree: A TableRow FONode is created for every fo:table-row, and it is added

RE: [VOTE] Simon Pepping for Committer

2004-04-01 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Team, I'd like us to go ahead and make Simon Pepping our newest FOP team member. He has provided steady ML help and numerous patch contributions for the past few months, and with the many layout patches that have

RE: Wiki Migration and other issues

2004-03-04 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / Sounds good to me... Looks 'snappier'! (sorry! ;-) and the added capabilities[1] look promising. There're a couple of other Wiki's I'm I also had a look, and apparently, the bottom-part (below 5. Contact...) of the

RE: fop-dev used to spread virus

2004-03-04 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Manuel. We have about 430 people on FOP-DEV, snip / --- Manuel Mall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The e-mail to fop-dev below which I received last night contained the Beagle virus and according to the SMTP

RE: fop-dev used to spread virus

2004-03-04 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / PleaseI'm not implying intent here, or email owner capabilities. Of course not. Sorry, was just a bit annoyed with the logic in the OP. Cheers, Andreas

RE: [VOTE] Clay Leeds for Committer

2004-03-01 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / Perhaps I might even pick up a Java book and figure out how to add command line parameters to FOP (I'm hoping I won't have to figure out the issue that Glen and Andreas raised[1] in February, though...:-p). Why...

RE: [VOTE] Clay Leeds for Committer

2004-02-29 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / So let me start off the voting: +1. No need to think this over: +1. Cheers, Andreas

RE: [VOTE] Remove Visitor Patterns from AbstractRenderer.java

2004-02-28 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This simplification, even if temporary, drops the average IQ needed to understand the Renderer classes perhaps 30 points, more into my range*, hopefully opening the door for more developers to start filling out these

RE: [VOTE] Remove Visitor Patterns from AbstractRenderer.java

2004-02-26 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: J.Pietschmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / BTW I don't think it's good style do ignore a veto and commit a change even before the discussion is resolved. One of my points also: quote The 'more correct' design, I believe, ... after which he can _buy_

RE: [OT] Mention of FOP in bash on Mac OS X

2004-02-26 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / We must be doing something right, if we're being used as an example (even if it is referring to how nicely FOP reacts when it fails)! :-) Hmm, something like 'adapting Jakarta-Ant shell scripts' at the very least

RE: [VOTE] Remove Visitor Patterns from AbstractRenderer.java

2004-02-25 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Taking your pros into account: on 1.) +1 Now that you mention it, I have a vague suspicion that this is somehow related to the bug WRT basic-links I pointed out earlier (for which I was going to send some test file, but

RE: [VOTE] Remove Visitor Patterns from AbstractRenderer.java

2004-02-25 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / But the nice thing about our system is that they don't have to follow AbstractRenderer. AR implements an interface called Renderer, which is the bare minimum of methods needed to implement a FOP-compatible

RE: [PATCH] Support for percentages and table-units

2004-02-23 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Some babbling about trees and ladders ... snip / There's a lot of subjective judgement in making such calls, which is why it's useful to have a number of different opinions kicking ideas around. Yeah.. it probably is

RE: [PATCH] Support for percentages and table-units

2004-02-22 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / The borderline cases may be very much in the minority (and must be, judging by the degree of usage that FOP gets now) but they must be taken into account in the design of the solution. If we go for the

RE: [PATCH] Support for percentages and table-units

2004-02-21 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Andreas. Yes, I disagree, but then, so does the spec. What information *should* do is not terribly relevant. We need to work out and express what information *must* do to get this thing working. Voila!

RE: [PATCH] Support for percentages and table-units

2004-02-18 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In my view FOP consists of a number of subsystems that are ordered from upstream to downstream. The FO tree is the most upstream system, the area tree (or objects that are constructed by a renderer) is the most

RE: [PATCH] Support for percentages and table-units

2004-02-18 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
snip / is being interrogated/perceived/discussed... Sorry, it's late here... You are IMO very correct by stating that 'if the Layout info can be reused, so can the AT and the renderer', however, if I interpret correctly, the latter two are designed to dispose of their created objects

RE: [xsl] creating multiple pdf-files from one xml

2004-02-16 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Chris Bowditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: snip/ The related class in Xalan: org.apache.xalan.lib.Redirect It contains a HashMap, m_outputStreams, which is, unfortunately, protected, so can't be queried from outside

RE: [PATCH] Support for percentages and table-units

2004-02-16 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Finn Bock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Simon Pepping] snip / However, I am not happy with your solution. During the layout process, you feed the page dimensions back into the FO tree, in PageLayoutManager.createPageAreas. Yes, and in BlockLayoutManager

RE: [xsl] creating multiple pdf-files from one xml

2004-02-16 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you give an example of how would his look? Would it be an ant task? Would it be some type of java class? Thanks! Well, Maestro, started to think about subclassing, but I'm not sure in what form *exactly* yet, neither

RE: [xsl] creating multiple pdf-files from one xml

2004-02-16 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Or, to describe in XSLT terms, I think closest would be: all elements in the vendor's redirection extension's namespace having their target URI attribute end in '.fo' Something just struck me; might be a lot

RE: [xsl] creating multiple pdf-files from one xml

2004-02-16 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So we not can assume the xml-xsl-fo processing was had via Xalan--and even if it were so, it also could have been done via its translets (compiled XSLT) feature. Aw, great! You just *had* to come and throw that one in as

RE: [PATCH] Support for percentages and table-units

2004-02-16 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / If in the re-use the layout would not change, the area tree could be reused. OTOH, if the layout would change, e.g. because another renderer would use a font with a different font metric, the layout information

RE: JAXP question

2004-02-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried a little bit more, but was unsuccessful. XMLFilter + setParameter() unfortunately isn't currently available with JAXP, and I suspect the just-use-a-transformer alternative proposed by Michael Kay here:

RE: Questions about minimum requirements

2004-02-13 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Me:] Errmmm... (Trick question?) Not so much a trick question as it is a question about a note on the FOP Fonts question. Well, don't worry. Was just kidding there --I meant more: the question was posed in a 'tricky'

FW: [xsl] creating multiple pdf-files from one xml

2004-02-13 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Kloeck, Erwin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mulberrytech. com (E-Mail) Hi, I have to create several pdf-files out of one xml document. Currently I write several fo-files using redirect:write to disk during xsl processing and then read them in again for fo

RE: [xsl] creating multiple pdf-files from one xml

2004-02-13 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In my application we create multiple page-sequences using multiple xsl:include templates, which _look_ different, but are still one PDF file. If certain flags are set in my source XML, my app creates: 1) a bill; 2) a

RE: [xsl] creating multiple pdf-files from one xml

2004-02-13 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / Far better would be if we could somehow get a handle to the streams the redirection extension writes to. Place a buffer in between, and we're set. Much faster, no need for a workaround of any kind. But here

RE: Questions about minimum requirements

2004-02-12 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been doing some updating documentation for my company's product, and noticed this tidbit on the FOP Fonts page[1] where it discusses PFMReader: snip / Is this the requirement for the avalon-framework.jar just a

RE: PMC representation

2004-02-12 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Finn Bock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Peter B. West] I have no problem with your continuing. If we need a formal vote, Jeremias to remain as one of our PMC representatives: +1 +1 for Jeremias +1 from me as well Cheers, Andreas

RE: JAXP question

2004-02-11 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Glen, Also, big issue--I'm trying to implement command-line XSLT param handling. Most of the code came from Xalan--quite simple to add. The only problem is that I'm unsure how to configure the XMLFilter (line

XSLT-support related question

2004-02-11 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
Hi all, Started having strange ideas on the possibility of a scenario like 1 XML + 1 XSLT = n FOs = n PDFs XSLT processors support extension functions for the output to multiple FOs, but in what way could (or does) FOP support the multiple PDF rendering? How would one go about such a task

RE: XSLT-support related question

2004-02-11 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Andreas L. Delmelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Started having strange ideas on the possibility of a scenario like 1 XML + 1 XSLT = n FOs = n PDFs XSLT processors support extension functions for the output

RE: XSLT-support related question

2004-02-11 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / Keep in mind, for FOP's xml+xsl-fo-pdf, we don't output an intermediate fo file. So there may be *no* redirected files to keep track of. Yah... wonder where these redirected parts would end up in this case...

RE: JAXP question

2004-02-11 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Andreas L. Delmelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAICT SAXTransformerFactory has its own getTransformerHandler() method. Maybe you can use this to set up a Handler, then manipulate the related Transformer

RE: Nasty bug: maint vs. HEAD - Some Follow-up...

2004-02-10 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] When debugging the output using the AreaTree XML, the pages are in the proper sequence in there (only, outside of their page-sequences?*), so Correction: they are all inside one and the same page-sequence

RE: FOP components

2004-02-09 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / I had a similar thought process (0_20_2-maintain for pre-1.4 users--if it works, don't fix it?). As for 1.0 (forgive my playing the devil's advocate here), why stop at 1.4? Assuming Java 1.5 will be released by the

RE: FOP components

2004-02-08 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / If we go to 1.4, should we also use 1.4 logging (java.util.logging) and possibly also the preferences API (java.util.prefs) for configuration/user agent/user prefs? I like this latter proposal (using

RE: FOP components

2004-02-08 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The settings themselves are stored in a system location where they are not meant to be found and edited by hand... (On Windows the more straightforward way to modify the prefs outside of the application

RE: FOP components

2004-02-08 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: J.Pietschmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / There's also jakarta commons configuration, which uses property files (IIRC, may well be wrong). Not wrong necessarily, I think. Just maybe a bit outdated to some. The Properties API is treated in many docs as a

RE: Just a small question...

2004-02-07 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: Peter / Nikolai, I think I should be the one to apologize here, as Nikolai seems to have been offended by one of *my* unreflected shoots from the hip ... snip / Andreas, Thanks

RE: Just a small question...

2004-02-07 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / Keep in mind, Andreas, Apache Geronimo is already running into headaches, apparently including complaints on architectural

RE: Just a small question...

2004-02-06 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I really appreciate your enthusiasm and am very happy, upon you finding something possibly of use to FOP on another ML, of your bringing it back to the team. We should just be careful in this particular case, however.

RE: Just a small question...

2004-02-06 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / Nikolai, Please re-consider your decision. I, for one, am extremely pleased that developers on other XSL-FO projects, especially ones so successful as RenderX, are interested enough in FOP to monitor this list,

RE: Just a small question...

2004-02-06 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: John Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip / I am surprised that MS or their minions at SCO haven't twigged to the following scheme They could 'set-up' Open Source by masquerading as some student in netland and submit some provably proprietary code as

RE: Just a small question...

2004-02-05 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do *not* share anything you find with the team--We don't need any you-stole-our-code headaches from the commercial implementations. Ok, I won't No offense, but I think you mistake my intentions here, Glen. If

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