Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Peter B. West wrote:


I mentioned the need for a logo some months ago to an acquaintance of 
mine who is a graphics design student.  She came up with some 
interesting ideas, but they were incomplete the last time I spoke to her 
(just before Christmas.)  I will try to get in touch with her again, and 
get her to post some of her sketches for comment.
Well, a jury is waiting :)

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Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki

On 12.01.2003 11:40:57 Bernd Brandstetter wrote:
 After having tried to understand how fop works by just reading the code for 
 a couple of hours now, FOrtress inevitably comes to my mind ;-)
 (in the sense of: Not easy to get in, at least for a newbie)

:-) Unfortunately, Fortress is already taken by the Apache Avalon
project for one their new containers. I bet they wouldn't be happy to
hear your association with the name.

Let's be serious again: What do you think could be improved to make FOP
easier to get in?


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cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation skinconf.xml

2003-01-13 Thread jeremias
jeremias2003/01/13 02:21:45

  Modified:src/documentation skinconf.xml
  Log:
  Fixes DTD and enables FOP logo for PDF files.
  Submitted by: Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.5   +10 -5 xml-fop/src/documentation/skinconf.xml
  
  Index: skinconf.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/xml-fop/src/documentation/skinconf.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.4
  retrieving revision 1.5
  diff -u -r1.4 -r1.5
  --- skinconf.xml  11 Jan 2003 16:49:26 -  1.4
  +++ skinconf.xml  13 Jan 2003 10:21:45 -  1.5
  @@ -11,10 +11,14 @@
   
 !ENTITY % links.att 'name CDATA #REQUIRED'
 !ENTITY % link.att 'name CDATA #REQUIRED href CDATA #REQUIRED'
  -  !ELEMENT skinconfig (disable-search?, searchsite-domain?, searchsite-name?, 
project-name, project-url, project-logo, group-name?, group-url?, group-logo?, 
host-logo?, year?, vendor?, trail?, credits?)*
  +  !ELEMENT skinconfig (disable-search?, searchsite-domain?, searchsite-name?,
  +  project-name, project-url, project-logo, group-name?, group-url?, group-logo?,
  +  host-url?, host-logo?, year?, vendor?, trail?, credits?)*
 !ELEMENT credits (credit*)
  -  !ELEMENT credit (name, url, image, width?, height?)
  -  !ATTLIST credit role CDATA #IMPLIED
  +  !ELEMENT credit (name, url, image?, width?, height?)
  +  !-- id uniquely identifies the tool, and role indicates its function --
  +  !ATTLIST credit id   CDATA #IMPLIED
  +   role CDATA #IMPLIED
 !ELEMENT disable-search (#PCDATA)
 !ELEMENT searchsite-domain (#PCDATA)
 !ELEMENT searchsite-name (#PCDATA)
  @@ -24,6 +28,7 @@
 !ELEMENT group-name (#PCDATA)
 !ELEMENT group-url (#PCDATA)
 !ELEMENT group-logo (#PCDATA)
  +  !ELEMENT host-url (#PCDATA)
 !ELEMENT host-logo (#PCDATA)
 !ELEMENT year (#PCDATA)
 !ELEMENT vendor (#PCDATA)
  @@ -90,12 +95,12 @@
 width138/width
 height31/height
   /credit--
  -!--credit role=pdf
  +credit role=pdf
 nameCreated by: FOP 1.0dev/name
 urlhttp://xml.apache.org/fop/dev/url
 imageimages/logo.jpg/image
 width138/width
 height31/height
  -/credit--
  +/credit
 /credits
   /skinconfig
  
  
  

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Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki

On 12.01.2003 04:59:36 Jeff Turner wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 05:43:37PM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
  Hi Jeff
  
  I've applied your patches locally. Thanks. Everything's ok with the
  first one, but with the second one I'm having problems (not your fault!):
  - I had to add adjust the inline DTD of skinconf.xml to include the role
attribute:
!ELEMENT credit (name, url, image, width?, height?)
!ATTLIST credit role CDATA #IMPLIED
 
 Oops yes, sorry.  Attached is a fix with DTD mods.

Applied, thanks.

  - The credit element produces a rather ugly FOP logo.
 
 If you upgrade your Forrest, the logo won't appear[1].  The @role=pdf
 in skinconf.xml means the credit only applies to PDFs.  Earlier versions
 of Forrest didn't know about this, so rather than display a broken image,
 I threw in the current FOP logo.

Ok, I've upgraded Forrest again and the logo disappeared.


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Embedding documentation

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Is it OK if I just throw out some usage patterns in the embedding
documentation? There's some contradicting information there and also
stuff that isn't that easy to understand. InputHandler and friends dates
back to pre-JAXP times. JAXP is known to most users doing embedding and
is most natural to work with. That's why I also implemented my embedding
examples using JAXP.

I'm not asking for deleting InputHandler and friends, only in the
documentation. Altough I'd like to delete them in the redesign. But
that's another story.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 16017] New: - Jpeg's and the PDF Serializer

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Jpeg's and the PDF Serializer

   Summary: Jpeg's and the PDF Serializer
   Product: Fop
   Version: 0.20.4
  Platform: Other
   URL: http://approveone.phaseone.com:8080/cocoon/mount/editee/
2003011352.pdf
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  Severity: Normal
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This looks like a bug.

I want to generate a .pdf document, using the XSL functions in cocoon.
Works fine, but when i include an JPEG image, i get the image displayed with
a Yellow filter apply to it.
  
Experimenting with this, i tried converting the same image to different 
formats, the ones i found working was GIF and PNG. But not the same quality as 
the JPEG.

Looks to me that the FOP is trying to convert the image to CMYK, but 
fails to do so.
  
Is there somewhere i configure the FOP, or is a serious bug ?

Im running on a Linux RH 7.2 dist , with tomcat 4.1.8, Cocoon 2.0.4. and 
j2sdk1.4.0

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Re: Embedding documentation

2003-01-13 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Jeremias Maerki wrote:

Is it OK if I just throw out some usage patterns in the embedding
documentation? There's some contradicting information there and also
stuff that isn't that easy to understand. InputHandler and friends dates
back to pre-JAXP times. JAXP is known to most users doing embedding and
is most natural to work with. That's why I also implemented my embedding
examples using JAXP.

+0


I'm not asking for deleting InputHandler and friends, only in the
documentation. Altough I'd like to delete them in the redesign. But
that's another story.

Lets discuss?

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-01-13 11:31 ---
additional info:

the target pdf is
http://approveone.phaseone.com:8080/cocoon/mount/editee/test.pdf

the source is located at:
http://approveone.phaseone.com/pdf/test.xml

as the jpg, png, gif, picture is as well.
http://approveone.phaseone.com/pdf/test.jpg
(and for comparison:)
http://approveone.phaseone.com/pdf/test.gif
http://approveone.phaseone.com/pdf/test.png

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FOP compliance in XML?

2003-01-13 Thread Benoit Maisonny
Hi,

Is there an XML version of the tables in 
http://xml.apache.org/fop/compliance.html?

Alternatively, I'd be interested to have the compliance information 
(comments) merged into Chuck Paussa's FO/FOP schema.

Either way, if nobody is doing it already, then I volunteer.


Benoit Maisonny


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Re: FOP compliance in XML?

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Yes, see here:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/compliance.xml?rev=1.5content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

Volunteers are always welcome. :-)

What exactly would you like to do with it?

On 13.01.2003 12:52:29 Benoit Maisonny wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there an XML version of the tables in 
 http://xml.apache.org/fop/compliance.html?
 
 Alternatively, I'd be interested to have the compliance information 
 (comments) merged into Chuck Paussa's FO/FOP schema.
 
 Either way, if nobody is doing it already, then I volunteer.


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RE: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Andy Joslin
 Why don't we announce a competition.

I've been thinking of writing to this list for a while to offer
'graphic' help to the project (My background is Art  Design not CS) and
would love to take part :-) 

regards

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Re: PDF Output consideration 1.3 vs. 1.4

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I've read the PDF/X FAQ and there seems to be more than only PDF/X-3.
There are at least 5 standards. Scary thing.

Anyway, I think it should be possible to make the PDF library
configurable to generate PDF 1.3 only. But implementing even one of the
PDF/X standards can't be a current topic for us comitters during this
phase of the redesign. But if you like to contribute to this we're happy
to apply patches you send.

I've added this to our todo list here: 
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?FOPProjectTasks

On 11.01.2003 19:32:03 Arnd Beißner wrote:
 Since you are currently discussing PDF 1.3 vs. 1.4 issues, there's one 
 thing not
 all of you may be aware of:
 
 There's a relatively new standard called PDF/X-3. This is basically PDF 
 1.3
 with a number of restrictions. Some can be handled by the user (all fonts
 must be embedded), some others must be adhered to by the PDF generator.
 
 The intention of PDF/X is to standardize on a PDF subset that can be
 handled without the usual problems in the prepress business (missing or
 mismatched fonts, color mismatches, trapping etc.). 
 
 For more information see http://www.pdfx.info. There's also a freeware 
 PDF/X
 preflight tool called PDF/X-3 Inspector (download URL: 
 http://www.pdfx.info/download.html).
 
 The reason I'm mentioning this is that one of the restrictions of PDF/X-3 
 is
 that the PDF file may not be PDF 1.4 (I'm not sure if lower than 1.3 is 
 ok).
 
 To pave the way for future PDF/X support, you may consider still 
 supporting
 PDF 1.3 in the redesign code tree. At least perhaps make it configurable.
 
 Hope this information is useful.


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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 16023] New: - tiff images are not rendered

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   Summary: tiff images are not rendered
   Product: Fop
   Version: 0.20.5
  Platform: PC
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tiff images are not rendered in the awt viewer. they are rendered when i use 
pdf as output format, but not with awt.

yes, jimi library support is compiled :-)

is there a workaround for that? or a fix already?

thanks, domenico

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cvs commit: xml-fop/examples/servlet - New directory

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cvs commit: xml-fop/examples/servlet/src FopPrintServlet.java FopServlet.java

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RE: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Oleg Tkachenko wrote:

 I like it. First of all FOP is well-known among the whole xml
 community for ages (what costs much) and secondly fop word has a

Yes, this is the primary consideration. The only reason why I mention it now
at all is that changing such things is always better done sooner rather than
later.

 Entry Word: fop
 Function: noun
 Text: a man who is conspicuously fashionable or elegant in dress or
 appearance felt contempt for the mincing overdressed fop
 Synonyms Beau Brummel, blood, buck, coxcomb, dandy, dude, exquisite,
 gallant, lounge lizard, macaroni, petit-maître, popinjay
 Related Word fashion plate, silk stocking; blade, cavalier,
 man-about-town, spark, sport, swell; ladies' man, lady-killer, masher
 Idioms man of the world

   I never have a problem writing it, but when
  speaking it, I cannot make my mouth say fop, but invariably say
  eff-oh-pee instead.
 May I ask why? (Sorry, after spending the whole day in the beach I'm a
 liitle bit stupid :)

It must be a cultural thing. The dictionary definition you gave should tell
the story well enough -- see the example felt contempt for the mincing
 The word is a pejorative, but perhaps more so in my part of the world,
where calling someone a fop or a dandy might be fighting words. In my
mind it connotes sissy on one end of the scale and big hat, no cattle on
the other. This is all partially mitigated by the fact that the word is
pretty much in disuse, so maybe nobody else knows what it means.

Finding myself in the minority, I withdraw the question. I intended no
offence. As a workaround, please don't be offended if I continue to treat
the name as an acronym instead of a word.

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cvs commit: xml-fop/src/foschema - New directory

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RE: FOP compliance in XML?

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Benoit Maisonny wrote:

 This looks perfect for my needs!

 I am working on an FO quick reference that includes compliance
 information for fop and xep.

A couple of caveats: 1) The html version on our website is misleading
because the color-coding is scrubbed out in our forrest conversion (I am
trying to get that fixed). 2) The content applies to 0.20.5, not the main
branch. 3) The content might not be entirely accurate. It came from some
other documents, which I think were a bit out of date. It is really intended
as a good starting place. In particular, I think there are places where we
say that FOP is in compliance, but where there are some limitations that
need to be cross-referenced.

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docs/xslfoRef.xml

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Hi there

There's a xslfoRef.xml containing a small reference for XSL-FO. An
XSLT exists for converting the reference to FO. It still reflects the
Candidate Recommendation, so it is outdated. Can I simply delete it or
should I move it somewhere, too?

It's the only thing left in the docs directory when I'm finished moving
docs/examples to examples/fo.


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RE: thoughts on fonts (was: text-decoration)

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Jeremias Maerki wrote:

 Can we sketch that on the Wiki in some simple way? Defining some Java
 interfaces and things like that? Anyway, as you mentioned we should sort
 out things like Session and Document on another page first.

OK, I just put a proposal out there in the section discussing Facade. More
on this below.

 It would be great if you would read up on Avalon a bit.

I assume that we are talking about the Framework stuff here. I still haven't
found the ServiceManager that you mentioned.

 Do I get you right that you would get something like that?

 public interface Font {

 String getFontName();
 int getFontWeight();
 int getFontSize();

 FontMetrics getFontMetricsForLayout();
 }

 public interface FontMetrics {

 //These methods already take font size into account
 int getAscender();
 int getDescender();
 int getCapHeight();
 //more...
 int getWidth(char c);
 boolean hasKerningAvailable();
 //more...
 }

 That looks promising.

See the wiki where I have added a couple of things to your outline above.
The main difference is that I am not thinking of it as an interface, because
I only ever want one implementation. The concrete class is itself the
interface that the remainder of the system uses. My un-OOP (but not
anti-OOP) background is probably showing through here, so please talk me out
of this if I am out of line. The reason for my approach is that ideally,
what we might want here is for java.awt.Font to be in implementation of the
interface that we wish to use. That is not an option. So what we are
building is a /virtual/ interface that we can hide java.awt.Font and /all/
other font concepts behind. We are trying to find commonality between
objects that have similar real-world characteristics, but that have no
compiler-level common heritage. There may be a better way.

 Yes, I share your unease, but I look at it from this side: Multiple area
 trees mean possibly different layout which can be a problem when you're
 working in an environment where you're working with legally relevant
 documents. Two generated documents from the same source must be as equal
 as possible. (funny use of equal, I know)

I guess what I am saying is that different fonts used will probably /force/
different area trees. So, from out standpoint, better to disallow it than to
disappoint.

Sorry to be so slow in responding.

Victor Mote


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cvs commit: xml-fop/examples/fo/tables background.fo borders.fo break.fo headfoot.fo keep.fo omit.fo space.fo widowsorphans.fo

2003-01-13 Thread jeremias
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cvs commit: xml-fop/docs/examples/tables background.fo borders.fo break.fo headfoot.fo keep.fo omit.fo space.fo widowsorphans.fo

2003-01-13 Thread jeremias
jeremias2003/01/13 10:29:13

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cid-fonts.pdf giro.fo test_ja.fo
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contlabel.fo corresprop.fo extensive.fo fonts.fo
hyphen.fo images.fo inhprop.fo instream.fo
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normalex.fo pdfoutline.fo readme.fo simple.fo
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glossary.xsl hide.fo
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allregions.fo basic1.fo basic2.fo
franklin_2pageseqs.fo franklin_alt.fo
franklin_rep.fo franklin_rep_max_repeats.fo
franklin_rep_max_repeats_expl.fo
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simplecol.fo simplecol2.fo simplecol3.fo
simplecol4.fo
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embedding.fo external.fo multi.svg ref.svg view.svg
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borders.fo break.fo headfoot.fo keep.fo omit.fo
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cvs commit: xml-fop/docs/graphics fop.jpg linux.bmp listgeometry.gif page.gif xml_fax.tif xml_feather.gif xml_feather_transparent.gif

2003-01-13 Thread jeremias
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listgeometry.gif page.gif xml_fax.tif
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Re: Embedding documentation

2003-01-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote:

Yes, but on a new Wiki page on the new API. We've got to scratch
together what already has been discussed and put that on that page.


I made a page behind the Avalonization link, currently
focussing on API issues.
Someone with more Avalon background should add internal
Avalonization possiblities and perhaps how to deal with
configurations.

J.Pietschmann



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Re: docs/xslfoRef.xml

2003-01-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote:

There's a xslfoRef.xml containing a small reference for XSL-FO. An
XSLT exists for converting the reference to FO. It still reflects the
Candidate Recommendation, so it is outdated. Can I simply delete it or
should I move it somewhere, too?


Keep it for the moment. I think I'll xdocify and update it
once I get a bit of time to spare.

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Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Bernd Brandstetter
On Monday 13 January 2003 11:01, Oleg Tkachenko wrote:
 Bernd Brandstetter wrote:
  feeling inspired by your's and Oleg's suggestions and also a little
  bit bored this Sunday afternoon, I thought I'll take the chance and
  improve my Gimping skills. Here's the result :-)

 Not bad. Something like this I meant. But (sorry for being critical,
 it's art, not coding :): why it's sitting back to us.

No problem :-)
This was in no way meant to be a serious proposal for the logo.

I've also created one with a parrot sitting with it's front to us.
However, I found this one with it's impish look back over the shoulder much 
nicer.

 F and P are too simple.

Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the whole 
logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff.

 And I'm not sure about scalability - e.g. how it'll look 3cmX2cm?

A vector graphic (preferrably SVG) would of course be better. However, I 
couldn't find a good-looking vectorized parrot clipart.

Regards,
Bernd


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Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Bernd Brandstetter
On Monday 13 January 2003 11:05, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 12.01.2003 11:40:57 Bernd Brandstetter wrote:
  After having tried to understand how fop works by just reading the
  code for a couple of hours now, FOrtress inevitably comes to my mind
  ;-) (in the sense of: Not easy to get in, at least for a newbie)
 
 :-) Unfortunately, Fortress is already taken by the Apache Avalon

 project for one their new containers. I bet they wouldn't be happy to
 hear your association with the name.

 Let's be serious again: What do you think could be improved to make FOP
 easier to get in?

Design documentation :-)
When I clicked on the Architecture and Design links, I had expected a 
bit more than 20 to 30 lines of text. But I must admit that I have totally 
overlooked the Understanding the design section which is a bit more 
verbose.
Still, it would be nice to have something in the style of the Alt design 
description - which I think is really great - for the standard design 
too.

Regards,
Bernd



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Re: docs/xslfoRef.xml

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Cool, thanks.

On 13.01.2003 19:57:46 J.Pietschmann wrote:
 Jeremias Maerki wrote:
  There's a xslfoRef.xml containing a small reference for XSL-FO. An
  XSLT exists for converting the reference to FO. It still reflects the
  Candidate Recommendation, so it is outdated. Can I simply delete it or
  should I move it somewhere, too?
 
 Keep it for the moment. I think I'll xdocify and update it
 once I get a bit of time to spare.


Jeremias Maerki


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Re: Embedding documentation

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Very good. I'll start adding to it as soon as I've finished moving files
around and documenting the embedding samples.

On 13.01.2003 19:55:22 J.Pietschmann wrote:
 Jeremias Maerki wrote:
  Yes, but on a new Wiki page on the new API. We've got to scratch
  together what already has been discussed and put that on that page.
 
 I made a page behind the Avalonization link, currently
 focussing on API issues.
 Someone with more Avalon background should add internal
 Avalonization possiblities and perhaps how to deal with
 configurations.


Jeremias Maerki


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bidi wiki

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Oleg:

I just added a comment on your bidi wiki, in the Reordering the text
section, regarding the line-by-line nature of reordering Middle-Eastern
language text. This is something you no doubt already know, but was not
clear to me until recently, and it may be helpful. The comments might be
expanded to a more general statement by someone who knows more.

Victor Mote


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Overconstraint wiki

2003-01-13 Thread Rhett Aultman
Gang,

I just added some newish comments to the overconstraint wiki page.  Not much, but it's 
something.  I know some people out there said they had some things to add...please do. 
 I'm hoping to get this ball rolling so that development can get underway as Keiron's 
work on layout continues.

--
J. Rhett Aultman
Business Technology Solutions
FCCI Insurance Group


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Re: thoughts on fonts (was: text-decoration)

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki

On 13.01.2003 19:18:18 Victor Mote wrote:
 Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 
  Can we sketch that on the Wiki in some simple way? Defining some Java
  interfaces and things like that? Anyway, as you mentioned we should sort
  out things like Session and Document on another page first.
 
 OK, I just put a proposal out there in the section discussing Facade. More
 on this below.

Mh, yes, I'm not so happy about it, yet. I'll add my comments as
soon as my current task is done.

  It would be great if you would read up on Avalon a bit.
 
 I assume that we are talking about the Framework stuff here. I still haven't
 found the ServiceManager that you mentioned.

Yes, we're talking about Framework. Framework defines the contracts in
an Avalon system which includes ServiceManager. ServiceManager is the
successor to the ComponentManager which was deprecated because every
service/component had to implement a Component marker interface with no
methods. The ServiceManager now returns simple Objects that need to be
casted to their work interface.

Here's the link to the API docs of the Service package.
http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/api/org/apache/avalon/framework/service/package-summary.html

See here for the Developing with Avalon guide:
http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/developing/framework.html
(this is a MUST read)

  Do I get you right that you would get something like that?
 
  public interface Font {
 
  String getFontName();
  int getFontWeight();
  int getFontSize();
 
  FontMetrics getFontMetricsForLayout();
  }
 
  public interface FontMetrics {
 
  //These methods already take font size into account
  int getAscender();
  int getDescender();
  int getCapHeight();
  //more...
  int getWidth(char c);
  boolean hasKerningAvailable();
  //more...
  }
 
  That looks promising.
 
 See the wiki where I have added a couple of things to your outline above.
 The main difference is that I am not thinking of it as an interface, because
 I only ever want one implementation. The concrete class is itself the
 interface that the remainder of the system uses. My un-OOP (but not
 anti-OOP) background is probably showing through here, so please talk me out
 of this if I am out of line.

I guess I will. :-)

 The reason for my approach is that ideally,
 what we might want here is for java.awt.Font to be in implementation of the
 interface that we wish to use. That is not an option. So what we are
 building is a /virtual/ interface that we can hide java.awt.Font and /all/
 other font concepts behind. We are trying to find commonality between
 objects that have similar real-world characteristics, but that have no
 compiler-level common heritage. There may be a better way.

There, you are on the right track IMO.

  Yes, I share your unease, but I look at it from this side: Multiple area
  trees mean possibly different layout which can be a problem when you're
  working in an environment where you're working with legally relevant
  documents. Two generated documents from the same source must be as equal
  as possible. (funny use of equal, I know)
 
 I guess what I am saying is that different fonts used will probably /force/
 different area trees. So, from out standpoint, better to disallow it than to
 disappoint.

I guess Peter is right that we have to keep it simple for now. Let's
stay on the safe side and be ready to adapt to future changes.

 Sorry to be so slow in responding.

No problem. There's so much to do that I'm not getting stuck.

Sorry for not immediately answering in more detail. I've got to get my
head clear for that first.


Jeremias Maerki


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Re: thoughts on fonts (was: text-decoration)

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki

On 11.01.2003 18:35:37 Victor Mote wrote:
 Keiron Liddle wrote:
 
  If I understand it correctly we could have:
  - multiple output targets for one rendering run
  - targets with the same font metrics can layout to a common area tree
  - targets with similar or substitute metrics could force layout
  to one area tree
  - other targets can have different area trees from the same fo tree
 
 There are some big picture things that we should probably address:
 1. (Biggest of all) Do we have users that need to be able to do this? Are
 the performance gains that they might get worth the pain on our end?

The performance gain is not having to do the layout for each output
document which is the major part of a processing run.

The system I wrote for my former employer which is a solution for
high-volume digital printing had to provide a minimal number of pages
per minute. That's usually about 1 to 2 times the speed of the target
printer. So if you have a Xerox DocuTech with 180 pages per minute
and you have to fill an archive with a different format than the one
sent to the printer you'll be happy for such a feature. Especially, if
legal requirements dictate that you need to be able to reprint the
document from the archive and get the same document almost to the pixel.

I'd say we need to be able to do this sometime in the future but not
necessarily now. So let's just make sure this requirement doesn't get
lost and that it stays in the back of our minds when we design the new
thing.

 2. If we have a RenderingContext concept, doesn't that mean that we need to
 know what that RenderingContext is for each output target before we start
 processing? To do any good, we must sort like RenderingContexts  process
 them together. Since we don't complete parsing of the document until the
 very end, it seems like we would have to parse the complete document before
 knowing what the Context looks like.

That's bad, yes.

Or you could only allow one RenderingContext which results in a
restriction of the available fonts based on the output handlers. You'd
get an error message as soon as an unsupported font is used. When a
common set isn't possible you have to do two rendering runs anyway so we
might just as well delegate this to the caller/user.

 3. If we were to switch to a model that completely parses the document at
 the beginning (looking for RenderingContext differences), then we might want
 to build the FO tree at the same time?

Won't be necessary with my alternative apporach above. But if the user
has to run the layout twice it might be good if the FO tree wasn't lost
between runs.

 4. If we build the FO tree up front  let it persist, then you can achieve
 the same thing in series instead of in parallel. (All of this comes at the
 price of greater memory consumption, or else caching). For example:
 parse doc, build FO tree, build RenderingContexts
 for each RenderingContext {
 build an area tree
 for each output medium in this RenderingContext {
 render
 }
 delete area tree
 }
 Even in this serial design, you could multi-thread either or both of the two
 loops.
 
 It is very possible that I am missing something, but our memory-lean
 event-based model would seem to dictate either 1) parsing the document
 twice, or 2) not allowing multiple output formats in the same document.

I think my approach could work in this regard. I'm not sure. We can let
the FO tree live for another layout run, can't we?


Jeremias Maerki


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for a further note. I tested the .PDF file on Adobe Acrobat Reader 5.1 and on 
xPDF-1.01 on a KDE 3.0.3 running on a RH 8.0 dist.

THe pdf viewed in the xPDF looks fine... So maybe some problem with the Adobe 
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cvs commit: xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps AWTStarter.java CommandLineOptions.java CommandLineStarter.java Driver.java ErrorHandler.java FOInputHandler.java FOPException.java Fop.java InputHandler.java LayoutHandler.java

2003-01-13 Thread pietsch
pietsch 2003/01/13 13:05:13

  Modified:src/org/apache/fop/apps AWTStarter.java
CommandLineOptions.java CommandLineStarter.java
Driver.java ErrorHandler.java FOInputHandler.java
FOPException.java Fop.java InputHandler.java
LayoutHandler.java
  Log:
  Fixed more style problems.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.17  +15 -7 xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps/AWTStarter.java
  
  Index: AWTStarter.java
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps/AWTStarter.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.16
  retrieving revision 1.17
  diff -u -r1.16 -r1.17
  --- AWTStarter.java   6 Nov 2002 14:30:15 -   1.16
  +++ AWTStarter.java   13 Jan 2003 21:05:12 -  1.17
  @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
   /*
* $Id$
  - * Copyright (C) 2001-2002 The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.
  + * Copyright (C) 2001-2003 The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.
* For details on use and redistribution please refer to the
* LICENSE file included with these sources.
*/
  @@ -13,8 +13,8 @@
   import org.apache.fop.viewer.Translator;
   
   //Java
  -import javax.swing.UIManager;
  -import java.awt.*;
  +import java.awt.Dimension;
  +import java.awt.Toolkit;
   import java.awt.event.WindowAdapter;
   import java.awt.event.WindowEvent;
   import java.util.Locale;
  @@ -36,7 +36,13 @@
   private Driver driver;
   private XMLReader parser;
   
  -public AWTStarter(CommandLineOptions commandLineOptions) throws FOPException {
  +/**
  + * Construct an AWTStarter
  + * @param commandLineOptions the parsed command line options
  + * @throws FOPException if anything goes wrong during initialization.
  + */
  +public AWTStarter(CommandLineOptions commandLineOptions)
  +throws FOPException {
   super(commandLineOptions);
   init();
   }
  @@ -44,10 +50,11 @@
   private void init() throws FOPException {
   //Creates Translator according to the language
   String language = commandLineOptions.getLanguage();
  -if (language == null)
  +if (language == null) {
   translator = new Translator(Locale.getDefault());
  -else
  +} else {
   translator = new Translator(new Locale(language, ));
  +}
   AWTRenderer renderer = new AWTRenderer(translator);
   frame = createPreviewDialog(renderer, translator);
   renderer.setComponent(frame);
  @@ -61,6 +68,7 @@
   
   /**
* Runs formatting.
  + * @throws FOPException FIXME should not happen.
*/
   public void run() throws FOPException {
   driver.reset();
  
  
  
  1.21  +82 -96xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps/CommandLineOptions.java
  
  Index: CommandLineOptions.java
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps/CommandLineOptions.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.20
  retrieving revision 1.21
  diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
  --- CommandLineOptions.java   31 Oct 2002 17:26:04 -  1.20
  +++ CommandLineOptions.java   13 Jan 2003 21:05:12 -  1.21
  @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
   /*
* $Id$
  - * Copyright (C) 2001 The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.
  + * Copyright (C) 2001-2003 The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.
* For details on use and redistribution please refer to the
* LICENSE file included with these sources.
*/
  @@ -8,19 +8,13 @@
   package org.apache.fop.apps;
   
   // java
  -import java.util.Vector;
   import java.io.File;
   import java.io.FileNotFoundException;
   
  -// FOP
  -import org.apache.fop.apps.FOPException;
  -
   // Avalon
   import org.apache.avalon.framework.logger.ConsoleLogger;
   import org.apache.avalon.framework.logger.Logger;
   
  -import java.io.*;
  -
   /**
* Options parses the commandline arguments
*/
  @@ -54,32 +48,38 @@
   private static final int RTF_OUTPUT = 10;
   
   /* show configuration information */
  -Boolean dumpConfiguration = Boolean.FALSE;
  +private Boolean dumpConfiguration = Boolean.FALSE;
   /* suppress any progress information */
  -Boolean quiet = Boolean.FALSE;
  +private Boolean quiet = Boolean.FALSE;
   /* for area tree XML output, only down to block area level */
  -Boolean suppressLowLevelAreas = Boolean.FALSE;
  +private Boolean suppressLowLevelAreas = Boolean.FALSE;
   /* user configuration file */
  -File userConfigFile = null;
  +private File userConfigFile = null;
   /* input fo file */
  -File fofile = null;
  +private File fofile = null;
   /* xsltfile (xslt transformation as input) */
  -File xsltfile = null;
  +private File xsltfile = null;
   /* xml file (xslt transformation as input) */
  -File 

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote:


It must be a cultural thing. The dictionary definition you gave should tell
the story well enough -- see the example felt contempt for the mincing
 The word is a pejorative, but perhaps more so in my part of the world,
where calling someone a fop or a dandy might be fighting words. In my
mind it connotes sissy on one end of the scale and big hat, no cattle on
the other. This is all partially mitigated by the fact that the word is
pretty much in disuse, so maybe nobody else knows what it means.

Finding myself in the minority, I withdraw the question. I intended no
offence. As a workaround, please don't be offended if I continue to treat
the name as an acronym instead of a word.


Victor,

Re my comment on this, I thought I should warn you that I am addicted to 
ironical jokes, which can be a dangerous habit with email.  I dislike 
emoticons, probably because I am more of a snob than I like to admit, 
but also because they seem to me to discourage any attempt either to 
write or to read the subtle - or the ironical! - from email.  An 
advantage of the longevity of a forum like this is that we get to know 
each other's style, so I hope that my un-emoticoned attempts at humour 
are read as such.  I'll see if I can squeeze one out.

,; :) ;,

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I've checked my classpath by manually inspecting the java lib directories and 
the jar files passed to FOP (see below) and don't believe that a duplicate 
exists in my classpath.  I even tried stripping my document down to a bare 
minimum and still receive a hyphenation exception.  I've attached the XSL-FO 
document which is producing the error.

If I run FOP 0.20.4 (by replacing the entire FOP jar), the exception no longer 
appears, which leads me to believe that this might indeed be a problem with 
0.20.5rc.  Could you please attempt to generate a PDF from the attached FO file 
to see if you can reproduce the error?

Thanks,
Shawn



This is the command that I've been using to run FOP:

/cygdrive/c/jdk1.3.0_02/bin/java -Xms512m -Xmx1028m -classpath 
C:\Oracle\Ora81\orb\classes\yoj.jar;
C:\Oracle\Ora81\orb\classes\share.zip;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\ant-1.4.1.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\avalon-framework-cvs-20020315.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\batik.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\bsf.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\buildtools.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\fop-0.20.5rc.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\jfor-0.7.1.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\jimi-1.0.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\stylebook.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\xercesImpl-2.2.1.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\xml-apis.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\xalan\xalan-2.4.1.jar;
c:\modeln_education\tools\docbook\lib\xalan\xalan-2.x.x-xsl.jar 
org.apache.fop.apps.Fop 
-fo content/devguide/book_xml.fo 
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Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Bernd Brandstetter wrote:

On Monday 13 January 2003 11:01, Oleg Tkachenko wrote:


Bernd Brandstetter wrote:


feeling inspired by your's and Oleg's suggestions and also a little
bit bored this Sunday afternoon, I thought I'll take the chance and
improve my Gimping skills. Here's the result :-)


Not bad. Something like this I meant. But (sorry for being critical,
it's art, not coding :): why it's sitting back to us.



No problem :-)
This was in no way meant to be a serious proposal for the logo.

I've also created one with a parrot sitting with it's front to us.
However, I found this one with it's impish look back over the shoulder much 
nicer.


I agree.  It's more interesting that way.




F and P are too simple.



Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the whole 
logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff.


Yes, but that still leaves quite a bit of room for font experimentation.

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Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Ralph LaChance
At 04:34 PM 1/13/03, you wrote:


Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the whole 
logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff.

Yes, but that still leaves quite a bit of room for font experimentation.



I cannot resist -

How many programmers does it take to change a logo ?|;^)



' Best,
-Ralph LaChance


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theory and practice, but in practice there is.

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Rotating Text Elements

2003-01-13 Thread Angus Stewart
Hello all,

I have looked over the list and have found references to the fact that
the reference-orientation element is not currently implemented, and the
suggestion that rotating text can be accomplished by embedding svg.
However, a cursory examination of svg seems to indicate that there is no
support for external fonts (as is currently supported in FOP).

So, if I wanted to include a sidebar on a regular PDF document (8.5 x 11
text running left to right), containing a non-standard font, with the
text running top to bottom, it looks like I'm out of luck...

My questions:

1.To the best of your knowledge (as I know this is not the SVG list)
- Does SVG support external fonts?
2.If reference-orientation were supported, would I be able to
accomplish my task?
3.Will reference-orientation be supported in a future release? and,
if so, when?
4.And, finally, any other suggestions for accomplishing this using
FOP?

My thanks,

Angus



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Re: FOP logo

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Ralph LaChance wrote:

At 04:34 PM 1/13/03, you wrote:


Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the 
whole logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff.


Yes, but that still leaves quite a bit of room for font experimentation.




I cannot resist -

How many programmers does it take to change a logo ?|;^)



NaN


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theory and practice, but in practice there is.

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You've found the attribution.  One of my favourites.

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Re: Rotating Text Elements

2003-01-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Angus Stewart wrote:

1.To the best of your knowledge (as I know this is not the SVG list)
- Does SVG support external fonts?

You'll have to install your font with the AWT. I have no idea
how easy or complicated this is. If you are running Unix+X it is
probably enough to register the font with X. On Windows, it may
be enough to drop the file into the font directory.


3.Will reference-orientation be supported in a future release?

Yes.


and, if so, when?

Perhaps summer, but don't hold your breath.

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RE: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Peter B. West wrote:

 Re my comment on this, I thought I should warn you that I am addicted to
 ironical jokes, which can be a dangerous habit with email.  I dislike
 emoticons, probably because I am more of a snob than I like to admit,
 but also because they seem to me to discourage any attempt either to
 write or to read the subtle - or the ironical! - from email.  An
 advantage of the longevity of a forum like this is that we get to know
 each other's style, so I hope that my un-emoticoned attempts at humour
 are read as such.  I'll see if I can squeeze one out.

 ,; :) ;,

We're OK. I caught your irony. My response was really entirely to Oleg's
question. However, I really was concerned about offending someone -- things
like names and logos carry a certain emotional weight.

In other words, I might worry about offending some on this list, but it
really wouldn't bother me to offend you at all, Peter. VVBG :-)

Victor Mote


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Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote:


We're OK. I caught your irony. My response was really entirely to Oleg's
question. However, I really was concerned about offending someone -- things
like names and logos carry a certain emotional weight.

In other words, I might worry about offending some on this list, but it
really wouldn't bother me to offend you at all, Peter. VVBG :-)


Touche'.

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Created an attachment (id=4413)
DocBook-generated FO file demonstrating narrowed spacing

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-01-14 01:37 ---
I see now that the spacing is not completely gone.  However, it appears that
it has been crunched down to the absolute minimum value.  In 20.5, the
inter-word spaces in the TOC are smaller than the inter-word spacing in the
regular text of the document.  This was not the case of 20.4.  My guess is
that the leader is (now) pushing the spacing to its minimum value.

Admittedly, this is not the most important bug in the world, but the quality of
the documents' appearance did decrease slightly between 20.4 and 20.5.

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PDF bookmark extension example is missing closing tag

   Summary: PDF bookmark extension example is missing closing tag
   Product: Fop
   Version: 0.20.5
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: Normal
  Priority: Other
 Component: documentation
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At the URL http://xml.apache.org/fop/extensions.html, there is an example
showing how to use the PDF bookmark extension.  

Line #9 should be a closing tag instead of an opening tag.
Below is the example copied from the extensions page:

fo:root xmlns:fo=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format;
   xmlns:fox=http://xml.apache.org/fop/extensions;
  fox:outline internal-destination=sec3
fox:labelRunning FOP/fox:label

fox:outline internal-destination=sec3-1
  fox:labelPrerequisites/fox:label
/fox:outline
  fox:outline== This should be a closing tag
/fo:root

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Re: Rotating Text Elements

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki

On 13.01.2003 23:24:49 J.Pietschmann wrote:
 Angus Stewart wrote:
  1.To the best of your knowledge (as I know this is not the SVG list)
  - Does SVG support external fonts?
 You'll have to install your font with the AWT. I have no idea
 how easy or complicated this is. If you are running Unix+X it is
 probably enough to register the font with X. On Windows, it may
 be enough to drop the file into the font directory.

You could also try to set the strokeSVGText property to false. This will
delegate text painting to FOP (instead of Batik) which can use its own
fonts. Though with rotated text I've had my problems. The redesigned FOP
will do this a lot better in the future.

http://xml.apache.org/fop/svg.html

Jeremias Maerki


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Both space width calculation and the space justification (LineArea.align())
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Re: thoughts on fonts (was: text-decoration)

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote:

Jeremias Maerki wrote:



It is very possible that I am missing something, but our memory-lean
event-based model would seem to dictate either 1) parsing the document
twice, or 2) not allowing multiple output formats in the same document.


I think my approach could work in this regard. I'm not sure. We can let
the FO tree live for another layout run, can't we?



I have no objection to it. However, AFAIK our processor doesn't really
process an FO tree, it processes events that occur as the FO tree is built.
So, you need to add something that walks through the existing FO tree 
starts creating events to feed into our processor. I don't know how much
faster this might be than just reprocessing the original input. Then you
need something in the process that says Oh, don't try to build an FO tree
here, it already exists. In other words, we're kind of trying to reuse
something that we didn't use the first time -- it all seems kind of klunky.
It seems to me that if we want to go down that path, we would do well to
build an FO tree up front, caching it for those who need a lean memory
environment, then process that tree n times, all the same way. I am not
really arguing for that, but merely pointing out that it seems like that is
where reusing the FO tree leads us.


There's one in alt.design if you ever need it.

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