Regression tests (was Re: Public API Change in Driver)

2001-08-10 Thread Keiron Liddle

On Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:45:10 Sam Ruby wrote:
 Steve Coffman wrote:
 
  We are very comitted to keeping all FOP and Cocoon releases in sync.
 When
  Cocoon changes Xerces and Xalan versions and JDK versions, so does FOP.
 
 Cool.  By the way, I am monitoring and nagging those projects too on a
 daily basis.  The ultimately goal is to enable people to step up with a
 minimum of effort.  If there are regression tests I can run, let me know.

There are tests that can be run using the build. (would it be too rude to
say RTFM).

Currently only in an early stage and if using the w3c testing suite it will
cause infinite loops.

http://xml.apache.org/fop/testing.html

Admittedly there is more information that is currently not on the website
(only in cvs, why isn't this automated).


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Attracting companies to FOP (was: Re: Public API Change in Driver)

2001-08-10 Thread Mark Lillywhite

Hi fopsians,

Arved sed,

 I think that OS practise is proving out that largish projects (and FOP is a 
 largish project) need a core team of at least 2 or 3 FT developers to 
 provide momentum, continuity, and a rallying point. FOP doesn't have that, 
 although long-time developers and committers try their best. So we are 
 hurting because of it. I could be wrong but I don't think I am. So any 
 suggestions from outside the FOP circle are welcome. FOP and the technology 
 it represents, and the number of other Apache projects that it could augment 
 or cooperate with, is a big deal, IMO. It is worth some higher-level 
 attention and thought, I think.

To my mind the primary issue with FOP's development is actually an issue
with XML:FO in general, and that is that it's usefulness and the range
of problems it solves have not really been well enumerated. Unless you
know what problems are solved by a solution then it's hard to get
excited about it. I agree that FOP is a Big Deal but not that it's
Obviously a Big Deal.

I mean, maybe people are evangelising XML:FO but I don't think it's been
effective, because I had to work it all out on my own. I don't mean to
say that it's hard to work out, just that I think that part of the
appeal of things like XML or Linux is their obviousness: a standard,
human-readable encoding for all structured data and a free modern
operating system, versus ... this thing, right,  where you take these
bits, see, and then you take these other  things, and then you replace
this CSS thing, right, and well, you have a web browser, right, and ...

My point is that whenever I read about XSL:FO I see how it's going to
make reading stuff in our browsers much nicer, and how it replaces CSS.
Well, noone's going to get too excited about that, because Microsoft and
to a lesser extent AOL/Netscape/Mozilla are driving the market there and
XSL:FO may or may not make an impact - it's really not in our hands.

But XSL has implications that far exceed web pages and CSS replacement.
I don't see this spoken of much. XSL is potentially an excellent way to
produce paper reports, to do graphing (with SVG), to do excellent page
layout for non-web applications, and to generally enhance or standardise
the end-products (human readable outputs) of just about any software. It
means we can get rid of all these proprietary reporting systems and
replace them with standard, free ones -- at least in theory.

I'm just ranting about this because I think that there needs to be a
compelling reason why someone like IBM might take on the task of helping
with something like FOP. As a HTML replacement, it's a big yawn. As a
way of producing all those thousands of tonnes of paper reports that get
printed out every day by big-iron machines, maybe it's a bit more
exciting, maybe people could see where it could help the bottom line?

I know that projects like Linux and Apache didn't really get much
support until they were well into the 1.0+ stages of their lives. So it
seems to me that battling forward to 1.0 and a big splashy press release
would be the start of getting some 'real' sponsorship of the project. I
know that 1.0 is a goal and I don't mean to imply that I think it's
taking too long (I don't). I'm just saying that 1.0 seems to me to be a
very important step for more reasons than just completing the spec.

Also, some 'live' examples of real-world stuff on the FOP page would be
good, some enumeration of the benefits of XML:FO and FOP, some ways that
FO can be applied to solve real problems. Certainly I can help with
examples of that, since I got involved in this project specifically
because of the advantages of FOP over other mechanisms for producing
output.

I'm just saying it how I see it, of course; maybe I'm oversimplifying
and talking out my botty. But the FOP page doesn't really get me all
worked up about how it's going to change the world, even though I'm
pretty sure it's impact will be huge. So I guess I'm saying it's a
marketing problem...?

Cheers
Mark


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Re: Attracting companies to FOP (was: Re: Public API Change in Driver)

2001-08-10 Thread Keiron Liddle

Hi Fopwegian (or should that be Fopocastrian),


On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:41:54 Mark Lillywhite wrote:
 Hi fopsians,
 Also, some 'live' examples of real-world stuff on the FOP page would be
 good, some enumeration of the benefits of XML:FO and FOP, some ways that
 FO can be applied to solve real problems. Certainly I can help with
 examples of that, since I got involved in this project specifically
 because of the advantages of FOP over other mechanisms for producing
 output.

I have done some work on a demo.
It uses Java webstart (work like an applet sort of).
The idea is to have it initially start the awt previewer at an index page
with a good introduction etc.
The it will have links to other examples (such as what we already have).

What needs to be done is:
- setup the apps classes to handle url (I have done some of this but its a
bit messy)
- write and index/intro

then put it on nagoya with the loader file (I have that ready and can do
that)

The real sticking point is lack of time.

 I'm just saying it how I see it, of course; maybe I'm oversimplifying
 and talking out my botty. But the FOP page doesn't really get me all
 worked up about how it's going to change the world, even though I'm
 pretty sure it's impact will be huge. So I guess I'm saying it's a
 marketing problem...?

I think this is where someone like you could help out - never seen someone
write so much.

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[Bug 3073] New: - Whitespace does not scale

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*** 0 
--- 1,106 
+ ++
+ | Whitespace does not scale  |
+ ++
+ |Bug #: 3073Product: Fop |
+ |   Status: NEW Version: all |
+ |   Resolution:Platform: PC  |
+ | Severity: Normal   OS/Version: Windows NT/2K   |
+ | Priority: Other Component: pdf renderer|
+ ++
+ |  Assigned To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |
+ |  Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
+ |  CC list: Cc:  |
+ ++
+ |  URL:  |
+ ++
+ |  DESCRIPTION   |
+ Whitespace seems to have the same width irrespective of the font-size property 
+ of the block. This can be annoying when trying to allign text using the 
+ monospace font-family. I came accross this while working with tables so the 
+ examples I attach are tables. The file table_ok.fo generates the pdf file 
+ correctly, while the table_pb.fo generates the problem (the text in the second 
+ row is not alligned with the text in the first row). The only difference is 
+ that the table_pb.fo uses font-size=95%.
+ 
+ I am using the 20010807101644 FOP snapshot.
+ 
+ In release 0.19 I used to substitue all spaces with a non-breaking space 
+ instead of using the white-space-collapse=false property, and it worked. This 
+ does not work anymore in the snapshot I am using.
+ 
+ Here is some FO code to see the problem (remove font-size=95% and it works, 
+ i.e. the text on the second is aligned correctly):
+ 
+ ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
+ 
+ fo:root xmlns:fo=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format;
+ 
+ 
+   !-- defines the layout master --
+   fo:layout-master-set
+ fo:simple-page-master master-name=first 
+page-height=29.7cm 
+page-width=21cm 
+margin-top=1cm 
+margin-bottom=2cm 
+margin-left=2.5cm 
+margin-right=2.5cm
+   fo:region-body margin-top=3cm/
+   fo:region-before extent=3cm/
+   fo:region-after extent=1.5cm/
+ /fo:simple-page-master
+   /fo:layout-master-set
+ 
+   !-- starts actual layout --
+   fo:page-sequence master-name=first
+ 
+   fo:flow flow-name=xsl-region-body
+ 
+   !-- this defines a title level 1--
+   fo:block font-size=18pt 
+ font-family=sans-serif 
+ line-height=24pt
+ space-after.optimum=15pt
+ background-color=blue
+ color=white
+ text-align=center
+ padding-top=3pt
+ How to use table elements
+   /fo:block
+ 
+   !-- this defines a title level 2--
+   fo:block font-size=16pt 
+ font-family=sans-serif 
+ space-after.optimum=15pt
+ text-align=center
+ A simple table, 3 columns, 4 rows
+   /fo:block
+ 
+ !-- normal text --
+ fo:block text-align=startthis is normal text. this is normal text. this 
+ is normal text. 
+  this is normal text. this is normal text. this 
+ is normal text.  
+ /fo:block
+ 
+ !-- table start --
+ fo:table
+   fo:table-column column-width=300pt/
+   fo:table-body
+ fo:table-row
+   fo:table-cell fo:block white-space-collapse=false font-
+ family=monospace  font-size=95% 1SpaceInFront
+ 4more/fo:block/fo:table-cell
+ /fo:table-row
+ fo:table-row
+   fo:table-cell fo:block white-space-collapse=false font-
+ family=monospace  font-size=95%  
+ 18Spaces/fo:block/fo:table-cell
+ /fo:table-row
+   /fo:table-body
+ /fo:table
+ !-- table end --
+ 
+ /fo:flow
+   /fo:page-sequence
+ /fo:root
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[Bug 2808] - rotate() performed twice in transform() also having translate()

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***
*** 2,9 
  | rotate() performed twice in transform() also having translate()|
  ++
  |Bug #: 2808Product: Fop |
! |   Status: NEW Version: all |
! |   Resolution:Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Normal   OS/Version: Linux   |
  | Priority: Other Component: svg |
  ++
--- 2,9 
  | rotate() performed twice in transform() also having translate()|
  ++
  |Bug #: 2808Product: Fop |
! |   Status: RESOLVEDVersion: all |
! |   Resolution: FIXED  Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Normal   OS/Version: Linux   |
  | Priority: Other Component: svg |
  ++
***
*** 115,117 
--- 115,121 
  
  
  * i.fo follows **
+ 
+ --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-08-10 00:40 ---
+ This should be fixed in the current version.
+ I get the same results from batik and fop for the svg rendering.
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[Bug 2555] - fo:wrapper doesn't display some content

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*** 2,9 
  | fo:wrapper doesn't display some content|
  ++
  |Bug #: 2555Product: Fop |
! |   Status: NEW Version: all |
! |   Resolution:Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Normal   OS/Version: Other   |
  | Priority: Other Component: general |
  ++
--- 2,9 
  | fo:wrapper doesn't display some content|
  ++
  |Bug #: 2555Product: Fop |
! |   Status: RESOLVEDVersion: all |
! |   Resolution: FIXED  Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Normal   OS/Version: Other   |
  | Priority: Other Component: general |
  ++
***
*** 36,38 
--- 36,43 
  --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-07-10 13:53 
---
  Created an attachment (id=304)
  demonstration file 2
+ 
+ 
+ --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-08-10 00:41 ---
+ This should be fixed.
+ The wrapper whould now be able to contain text directly.
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[Bug 2441] - Fop 0.19 fails to shutdown when running -print

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*** 2,9 
  | Fop 0.19 fails to shutdown when running -print |
  ++
  |Bug #: 2441Product: Fop |
! |   Status: NEW Version: all |
! |   Resolution:Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Blocker  OS/Version: Windows NT/2K   |
  | Priority: Other Component: pdf renderer|
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--- 2,9 
  | Fop 0.19 fails to shutdown when running -print |
  ++
  |Bug #: 2441Product: Fop |
! |   Status: RESOLVEDVersion: all |
! |   Resolution: FIXED  Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Blocker  OS/Version: Windows NT/2K   |
  | Priority: Other Component: pdf renderer|
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*** 78,80 
--- 78,83 
  
  VM Periodic Task Thread prio=10 tid=0x7671d0 nid=0x49 waiting on monitor
  Suspend Checker Thread prio=10 tid=0x768690 nid=0x37 runnable
+ 
+ --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-08-10 00:44 ---
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cvs commit: xml-fop/docs/examples/embedding FopServlet.java

2001-08-10 Thread keiron

keiron  01/08/10 00:50:22

  Modified:docs/examples/embedding FopServlet.java
  Log:
  formatted and made it compile (with changed api?)
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.3   +65 -116   xml-fop/docs/examples/embedding/FopServlet.java
  
  Index: FopServlet.java
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/xml-fop/docs/examples/embedding/FopServlet.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- FopServlet.java   2001/03/03 07:06:03 1.2
  +++ FopServlet.java   2001/08/10 07:50:22 1.3
  @@ -1,52 +1,8 @@
  -/*-- $Id: FopServlet.java,v 1.2 2001/03/03 07:06:03 kellyc Exp $ -- 
  -
  - 
  -   The Apache Software License, Version 1.1
  - 
  - 
  -Copyright (C) 1999 The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.
  - 
  - Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modifica-
  - tion, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
  - 
  - 1. Redistributions of  source code must  retain the above copyright  notice,
  -this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
  - 
  - 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice,
  -this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation
  -and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
  - 
  - 3. The end-user documentation included with the redistribution, if any, must
  -include  the following  acknowledgment:  This product includes  software
  -developed  by the  Apache Software Foundation  (http://www.apache.org/).
  -Alternately, this  acknowledgment may  appear in the software itself,  if
  -and wherever such third-party acknowledgments normally appear.
  - 
  - 4. The names Fop and  Apache Software Foundation  must not be used to
  -endorse  or promote  products derived  from this  software without  prior
  -written permission. For written permission, please contact
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  - 5. Products  derived from this software may not  be called Apache, nor may
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  - 
  - THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES,
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  - INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,  EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL  DAMAGES (INCLU-
  - DING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT  OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS
  - OF USE, DATA, OR  PROFITS; OR BUSINESS  INTERRUPTION)  HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON
  - ANY  THEORY OF LIABILITY,  WHETHER  IN CONTRACT,  STRICT LIABILITY,  OR TORT
  - (INCLUDING  NEGLIGENCE OR  OTHERWISE) ARISING IN  ANY WAY OUT OF THE  USE OF
  - THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
  - 
  - This software  consists of voluntary contributions made  by many individuals
  - on  behalf of the Apache Software  Foundation and was  originally created by
  - James Tauber [EMAIL PROTECTED]. For more  information on the Apache 
  - Software Foundation, please see http://www.apache.org/.
  - 
  +/*
  + * $Id: FopServlet.java,v 1.3 2001/08/10 07:50:22 keiron Exp $
  + * Copyright (C) 2001 The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.
  + * For details on use and redistribution please refer to the
  + * LICENSE file included with these sources.
*/
   
   package org.apache.fop.tools.servlet;
  @@ -64,93 +20,86 @@
   
   
   /**
  - * Example servlet to generate a PDF from a servlet. 
  + * Example servlet to generate a PDF from a servlet.
* Servlet param is:
* ul
*   lifo: the path to a formatting object file to render
* /ul
  - * 
  - * Example URL: http://servername/servlet/FopServlet?fo=/home/fop/example/readme.fo
*
  - */  
  + * Example URL: http://servername/servlet/FopServlet?fo=/home/fop/example/readme.fo
  + * Compiling: you will need 
  + * - servlet_2_2.jar
  + * - fop.jar
  + * - sax api
  + */
   
  -public class FopServlet extends HttpServlet 
  -{
  +public class FopServlet extends HttpServlet {
   public static final String FO_REQUEST_PARAM = fo;
   
  -public void doGet(HttpServletRequest request, 
  -   HttpServletResponse response) 
  - throws ServletException
  -{
  - try {
  - if (request.getParameter(FO_REQUEST_PARAM) != null) {
  - FileInputStream file = new 
FileInputStream(request.getParameter(FO_REQUEST_PARAM));
  - renderFO(new InputSource(file), response);
  - }
  - else {
  - PrintWriter out = response.getWriter();
  -

cvs commit: xml-fop/docs/xml-docs/fop embedding.xml

2001-08-10 Thread keiron

keiron  01/08/10 00:59:27

  Modified:docs/xml-docs/fop embedding.xml
  Log:
  added more info about compiling
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.8   +3 -0  xml-fop/docs/xml-docs/fop/embedding.xml
  
  Index: embedding.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/xml-fop/docs/xml-docs/fop/embedding.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.7
  retrieving revision 1.8
  diff -u -r1.7 -r1.8
  --- embedding.xml 2001/06/28 09:55:11 1.7
  +++ embedding.xml 2001/08/10 07:59:27 1.8
  @@ -72,6 +72,9 @@
/p
phttp://localhost:8080/fop/fop?fo=/home/path/to/fofile.fo/p
pYou can also find the source code there in the file FopServlet.java/p
  + p
  +To compile this code you will need servlet_2_2.jar (or compatible), fop.jar 
and the sax api in your classpath.
  + /p
 /s2
   /s1
   
  
  
  

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[Bug 2296] - Calling Fop through a servlet

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*** 2,9 
  | Calling Fop through a servlet  |
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  |Bug #: 2296Product: Fop |
! |   Status: NEW Version: all |
! |   Resolution:Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Critical OS/Version: Windows NT/2K   |
  | Priority: Other Component: pdf renderer|
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--- 2,9 
  | Calling Fop through a servlet  |
  ++
  |Bug #: 2296Product: Fop |
! |   Status: RESOLVEDVersion: all |
! |   Resolution: FIXED  Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Critical OS/Version: Windows NT/2K   |
  | Priority: Other Component: pdf renderer|
  ++
***
*** 61,63 
--- 61,71 
  
  Thanks
  Manik
+ 
+ --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-08-10 01:02 ---
+ This information will be available in the java file and on the website (when 
+ next updated).
+ You need the appropriate jars in the classpath
+  - servlet_2_2.jar
+  - fop.jar
+  - sax api

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[Bug 2891] - broken svg-graphics (pie-chart) in latest FOP-Snapshots

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*** 2,9 
  | broken svg-graphics (pie-chart) in latest FOP-Snapshots|
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  |Bug #: 2891Product: Fop |
! |   Status: NEW Version: all |
! |   Resolution:Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Normal   OS/Version: Other   |
  | Priority: Other Component: svg |
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--- 2,9 
  | broken svg-graphics (pie-chart) in latest FOP-Snapshots|
  ++
  |Bug #: 2891Product: Fop |
! |   Status: RESOLVEDVersion: all |
! |   Resolution: DUPLICATE  Platform: PC  |
  | Severity: Normal   OS/Version: Other   |
  | Priority: Other Component: svg |
  ++
***
*** 250,252 
--- 250,257 
  /fo:flow
  /fo:page-sequence
  /fo:root
+ 
+ --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-08-10 01:05 ---
+ 
+ 
+ *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 1424 ***
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[Bug 1424] - error rendering SVG file using FOP 18.1 and later

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*** 509,511 
--- 509,514 
  rendering areas with effects is a bit difficult.
  If the same results as version 18.0 are required then the effects should be 
  removed from the svg.
+ 
+ --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-08-10 01:05 ---
+ *** Bug 2891 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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cvs commit: xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps Options.java

2001-08-10 Thread keiron

keiron  01/08/10 01:18:43

  Modified:src/org/apache/fop/apps Options.java
  Log:
  improved error message a bit if config couldn't be loaded
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.9   +4 -3  xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps/Options.java
  
  Index: Options.java
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps/Options.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.8
  retrieving revision 1.9
  diff -u -r1.8 -r1.9
  --- Options.java  2001/07/30 20:29:18 1.8
  +++ Options.java  2001/08/10 08:18:43 1.9
  @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
   /*
  - * $Id: Options.java,v 1.8 2001/07/30 20:29:18 tore Exp $
  + * $Id: Options.java,v 1.9 2001/08/10 08:18:43 keiron Exp $
* Copyright (C) 2001 The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.
* For details on use and redistribution please refer to the
* LICENSE file included with these sources.
  @@ -158,8 +158,9 @@
   try {
   reader.start();
   } catch (org.apache.fop.apps.FOPException error) {
  -MessageHandler.errorln(Can't find user configuration file 
  -   + userConfigFile);
  +MessageHandler.errorln(Could not load user configuration file 
  +   + userConfigFile +  - error: 
  +   + error.getMessage());
   MessageHandler.errorln(using default values);
   if (errorDump) {
   reader.dumpError(error);
  
  
  

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[Bug 1243] - Error in org\apache\fop\apps\Options.java

2001-08-10 Thread bugzilla

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*** shadow/1243 Sun May 20 17:24:43 2001
--- shadow/1243.tmp.27577   Fri Aug 10 01:21:42 2001
***
*** 1,19 
! Bug#: 1243
! Product: Fop
! Version: all
! Platform: PC
! OS/Version: All
! Status: NEW   
! Resolution: 
! Severity: Normal
! Priority: High
! Component: general
! AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
! ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
! URL: 
! Cc: 
! Summary: Error in org\apache\fop\apps\Options.java
! 
  In Method loadUserconfiguration you catch the 
  Exception org.apache.fop.apps.FOPException 
  
--- 1,19 
! ++
! | Error in org\apache\fop\apps\Options.java  |
! ++
! |Bug #: 1243Product: Fop |
! |   Status: RESOLVEDVersion: all |
! |   Resolution: FIXED  Platform: PC  |
! | Severity: Normal   OS/Version: All |
! | Priority: High  Component: general |
! ++
! |  Assigned To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |
! |  Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
! |  CC list: Cc:  |
! ++
! |  URL:  |
! ++
! |  DESCRIPTION   |
  In Method loadUserconfiguration you catch the 
  Exception org.apache.fop.apps.FOPException 
  
***
*** 28,30 
--- 28,33 
  } catch (org.apache.fop.apps.FOPException error) {
 MessageHandler.errorln(error);
 ...
+ 
+ --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-08-10 01:21 ---
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region-body / reference-orientation

2001-08-10 Thread Alex McLintock

Anyone want to help this person out? I wish I had a quid every time 
someone assumed that since I help out with the FAQ they could
ask me a question before mailing it to the list...


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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:47:53 + (GMT+00:00) 


Subject: [FAQ] region-body / reference-orientation 
Hi, the reference-orientation is support in Fop?, this property not work WARNING: 
property
'reference-orientation' ignored, this feature is support  in FOP ?.
 



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cvs commit: xml-fop/docs/xml-docs/fop svg.xml

2001-08-10 Thread keiron

keiron  01/08/10 02:00:20

  Modified:docs/xml-docs/fop svg.xml
  Log:
  try to explain setting the size of output with transcoder a bit better
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.3   +7 -2  xml-fop/docs/xml-docs/fop/svg.xml
  
  Index: svg.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/xml-fop/docs/xml-docs/fop/svg.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- svg.xml   2001/07/13 12:17:50 1.2
  +++ svg.xml   2001/08/10 09:00:20 1.3
  @@ -31,8 +31,13 @@
   the SVG file.
   /p
   p
  -It is also possible to specify the width and/or height of the PDF document.
  -Currently the SVG image is simply scaled in PDF so the result my not be the best 
possible.
  +It is also possible to specify the width and/or height of the PDF document on the 
command line with -w and -h or if you are using the transcoder api you can use the 
transcoding hints.
  +/p
  +p
  +Currently the SVG image is drawn at the SVG document size and simply scaled in PDF 
to the new size. So the result may not be the best possible. For example if you have 
any images or effects it will draw them at the original resolution of the svg 
document. When this is viewed in the pdf it will have an incorrect resolution for the 
size of the pdf.
  +/p
  +p
  +The size of the pdf file will also remain the same regardless of what size the page 
is.
   /p
   p
   For more information see jump href=http://xml.apache.org/batik/;Batik/jump for
  
  
  

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Re: FOP FAQ suggestion

2001-08-10 Thread Alex McLintock

Regarding the FOP Faq-O-Matic? http://www.owal.co.uk:8090/asf/fop.jsp

I asked for Java programmers to help

 Maybe.  I do server-side Java -- servlets, JSPs, EJBs.  Is that in line
 with the kind of help you need?  (I'm also kind of busy contributing
 to Borland's newsgroups as one of their JBuilder TeamB members,
 so I don't know how much extra time I have.)
 
 Paul Furbacher

Essentially the Jyve (Java FAQ-O-Matic) program is about a year old - and uses another 
Apache project called Turbine. Turbine is a web application framework library under 
constant
development. Unfortunately Turbine development continues and Jyve didn't.
The security mechanism changed including roles for users and so although people can
actually register with my FAQ system they don't have permission to enter things.
(I have superuser priviledges so I can add things in...)
This is one of the underlying problems with the main Apache FAQ (the one on apache.org)
You may have spotted [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned on the FAQ home page along with
a grovelling apology for me not fixing it earlier.


The very good news is that there is a new version of Jyve around. Hooray. 
So the plan is.

1) Setup a new FAQ system with the new Jyve from CVS (including putting
   it on an installation of apache with a correctly configured mod_jk)
2) Copy the FAQ data from the old system to the new one. - preferably 
   in an automated fashion.

The FOP FAQ is the one I am most interested in, but there are all the 
other Apache FAQs too.

Once we have done this there are loads of cute features to add, but they are really
bells and whistles...

PS The CVS details are listed at

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/cvsindex.html

I have lost the details for the Jyve mailing list. I can post it next week and
maybe take this discussion off this list.




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RE: Attracting companies to FOP (was: Re: Public API Change in Driver)

2001-08-10 Thread Ronald Jaramillo


I agree with Mark on this,
Just to make a point  I'll tell you about my experience with fop.
At my company we focus on delivering web aplication for traditional brick 
mortar
companies. We' have done some repporting apps and document generation like
invoices
and the like.
When we first needed to generate pdf from scratch( 2 years ago ), we haven't
heard
of fop, so we used pdflib together with java. This was a time consuming and
frustrating process, becouse it was so lowlevel. You have to calculate the
position of all
elements, the number of lines the amount of space, everything. 
Making a nice table will take ages. We endend up writing a lot of classes
wich parsed and
formated a html subset, becouse having the presentation tied so close to the
code was
a maintainence nightmare.
When i found fop, i was happy to trow away all those classes. 
We have been used fop succesfully on production environment for several of
our custumers for
about 1/2 year.
Fop right now is capable of doing what we need an more than that. If there
is some
feature we need in the future, we will try to implement it. My point is
that, if my
company has been aware of fop existance and capabilities from the begining,
we will
rather had contributed to fop enhancement instead of investing time on those
silly classes.

IMHO fop should present itself on the website in a much better way.
The developers on this list may think there is a long way to go, but
that depends on how
you look at it. For what we needed in our company fop was ready for prime
time.
I think the site should be more especific about what fop is able to do right
now, maybe show
some examples/screen-dumps of tables, svg, images or some unicode documents.

Arved wrote
I look at OS projects like Subversion and I'm green with envy.
Well on theirs   site, they has a section devoted to well define specific
task that need to be done.
Thats something we should do for fop site as well.
For instance, it could be nice to define what it takes to implement
background image support.
Or feature x. I think this model will fit better whith the way fop is been
developed ( people poking at
it on their spare time, comming and going ).
Having an overview of what fop supports, and a list of what need's to be
implemented grouped in self contained
task could be a good place to start. Then a developer/company can see if
their problem can be solved with
fop, and if not they can stimate what it takes to implement what they need.


MVH
Ronald


Mark wrote 
 I'm just saying it how I see it, of course; maybe I'm oversimplifying
 and talking out my botty. But the FOP page doesn't really get me all
 worked up about how it's going to change the world, even though I'm
 pretty sure it's impact will be huge. So I guess I'm saying it's a
 marketing problem...?
 
 Cheers
 Mark
 
 
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Re: Release Schedule

2001-08-10 Thread Arved Sandstrom

At 09:46 PM 8/9/01 -0500, Weiqi Gao wrote:
Charlie Wu wrote:

 Please include javadoc and the batch files in both the
 src release and binary release.. it took me hours to
 figure out hwo to get fop to work because i only
 downloaded the binary release (0.19)..

This makes sense.  People who are getting the source release can build the
Javadocs from the release.  People who are getting the binary release can't
build the Java docs, so they need the Javadocs bundled in.

Weiqi,

I assume you meant that what makes sense is neither what I suggested nor 
what Charlie suggested, but rather, prepared Javadoc with the binary distro, 
and none with the source. I pretty much assume that the complete set of 
batch files will be identical acrosss different distros.

I want to make it clear that the Javadoc is not going to help someone all 
that much in figuring out how to make FOP run. We are talking about the API 
docs when I say Javadoc, _not_ the regular HTML documentation.

Incidentally, none of this is an issue for me. I have a fast machine and I 
have a cable connection. If all potential users also have cable or ADSL 
connections then it's a moot point. But they don't, so distro size (I would 
think) is a consideration.

Regards,
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Re: [Bug 3007] - broken basic-link when referencing a following page

2001-08-10 Thread Enrico Schnepel

Hi,

thank you for resolving the problem. Your files are working fine. I am
running into another problem now but I am still trying to locate and separate it.

Regards

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RE: Attracting companies to FOP (was: Re: Public API Change in Driver)

2001-08-10 Thread Alistair Hopkins

Another 1/2c

I am using fop as the report formatter for a desktop application: I have not
found any other way of getting previewable, printable, saveable high quality
report documents out of java on a client side application.

We wasted quite a bit of time on some pdf-generating library we found which
was non-standards-compliant and involved out of process calls to get pdf
viewer up, temporary files, and general system-dependent ugliness which
always went wrong: the FOP way is a lot easier!

This usage is not mentioned on the FOP site AFAIK.  But look at the success
of a piece of total rubbish like Crystal Reports: after a few years doing
this software stuff, I've finally realised, END USERS WANT IT ON PAPER.
Especially the older, more senior ones...

Al

ps - I have grafted it on to my app in a fairly crude way.  Anybody else
interested in a reworking of the .viewer package to make it easier to do?
If so, I'll put a bit more time in and offer some chages.

-Original Message-
From: Ronald Jaramillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 10:29 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Attracting companies to FOP (was: Re: Public API Change in
Driver)



I agree with Mark on this,
Just to make a point  I'll tell you about my experience with fop.
At my company we focus on delivering web aplication for traditional brick 
mortar
companies. We' have done some repporting apps and document generation like
invoices
and the like.
When we first needed to generate pdf from scratch( 2 years ago ), we haven't
heard
of fop, so we used pdflib together with java. This was a time consuming and
frustrating process, becouse it was so lowlevel. You have to calculate the
position of all
elements, the number of lines the amount of space, everything.
Making a nice table will take ages. We endend up writing a lot of classes
wich parsed and
formated a html subset, becouse having the presentation tied so close to the
code was
a maintainence nightmare.
When i found fop, i was happy to trow away all those classes.
We have been used fop succesfully on production environment for several of
our custumers for
about 1/2 year.
Fop right now is capable of doing what we need an more than that. If there
is some
feature we need in the future, we will try to implement it. My point is
that, if my
company has been aware of fop existance and capabilities from the begining,
we will
rather had contributed to fop enhancement instead of investing time on those
silly classes.

IMHO fop should present itself on the website in a much better way.
The developers on this list may think there is a long way to go, but
that depends on how
you look at it. For what we needed in our company fop was ready for prime
time.
I think the site should be more especific about what fop is able to do right
now, maybe show
some examples/screen-dumps of tables, svg, images or some unicode documents.

Arved wrote
I look at OS projects like Subversion and I'm green with envy.
Well on theirs   site, they has a section devoted to well define specific
task that need to be done.
Thats something we should do for fop site as well.
For instance, it could be nice to define what it takes to implement
background image support.
Or feature x. I think this model will fit better whith the way fop is been
developed ( people poking at
it on their spare time, comming and going ).
Having an overview of what fop supports, and a list of what need's to be
implemented grouped in self contained
task could be a good place to start. Then a developer/company can see if
their problem can be solved with
fop, and if not they can stimate what it takes to implement what they need.


MVH
Ronald


Mark wrote
 I'm just saying it how I see it, of course; maybe I'm oversimplifying
 and talking out my botty. But the FOP page doesn't really get me all
 worked up about how it's going to change the world, even though I'm
 pretty sure it's impact will be huge. So I guess I'm saying it's a
 marketing problem...?

 Cheers
 Mark


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[Bug 3073] - Whitespace does not scale

2001-08-10 Thread bugzilla

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--- shadow/3073.tmp.28699   Fri Aug 10 02:57:56 2001
***
*** 104,106 
--- 104,110 
  /fo:flow
/fo:page-sequence
  /fo:root
+ 
+ --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-08-10 02:57 ---
+ Created an attachment (id=406)
+ FO example where the alignment works

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[Bug 3073] - Whitespace does not scale

2001-08-10 Thread bugzilla

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***
*** 108,110 
--- 108,115 
  --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2001-08-10 02:57 ---
  Created an attachment (id=406)
  FO example where the alignment works
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+ 
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RE: Attracting companies to FOP (was: Re: Public API Change in Driver)

2001-08-10 Thread Arved Sandstrom

At 11:29 AM 8/10/01 +0200, Ronald Jaramillo wrote:
IMHO fop should present itself on the website in a much better way.
The developers on this list may think there is a long way to go, but
that depends on how
you look at it. For what we needed in our company fop was ready for prime
time.
I think the site should be more especific about what fop is able to do right
now, maybe show
some examples/screen-dumps of tables, svg, images or some unicode documents.

You're right. We don't present this information at all well. We have a 
couple of files, not necessarily up to date, for implemented features and 
limittaions, and that's it.

Arved wrote
I look at OS projects like Subversion and I'm green with envy.
Well on theirs   site, they has a section devoted to well define specific
task that need to be done.
Thats something we should do for fop site as well.
For instance, it could be nice to define what it takes to implement
background image support.
Or feature x. I think this model will fit better whith the way fop is been
developed ( people poking at
it on their spare time, comming and going ).
Having an overview of what fop supports, and a list of what need's to be
implemented grouped in self contained
task could be a good place to start. Then a developer/company can see if
their problem can be solved with
fop, and if not they can stimate what it takes to implement what they need.

These are very good points. We have a number of developers/committers with 
lesser or greater knowledge of FOP guts that could possibly leverage their 
knowledge better. Take myself as a case in point: I know FOP well enough 
that I can dive in almost anywhere (OK, SVG and fonts are weak points for 
me, but you get the idea). But if I have 5 hours a week to spend on FOP, is 
that not better spent recording what I know about FOP design and 
implementation, and making that information available? It's sort of like the 
Biblical saying about providing people with fish (which is what I've been 
doing), as opposed to teaching people to fish. Not only that, telling them 
_where_ they should fish. :-)

Perhaps you saw my recent post to Karen Lease and others (that Karen replied 
to) that was along these lines, somewhat, albeit focusing on tables. So I 
think the thought has been on the radar horizon.

Lots of good suggestions here. All of which I think deserve high-priority 
attention. I'll certainly start doing this kind of stuff immediately after 
the 0.20 release this weekend.

Regards,
Arved Sandstrom

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numbered/lettered lists

2001-08-10 Thread Victoria . Beeby

All, 

Is there a tag that will automatically increase the value of the bullet 
in a numbered/lettered list?

Eg, a) list item 1
b) list item 2
c) list item 3

if item b) was removed c) would automatically move up the list and be 
re-lettered as b)

Thanks for your help.

Vicki


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RE: numbered/lettered lists

2001-08-10 Thread Michail Bikoulis

I think you're looking for the xsl:number tag. Check the examples at
http://www.zvon.org/HTMLonly/XSLTutorial/Books/Book1/index.html

Regards,

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All, 

Is there a tag that will automatically increase the value of the bullet 
in a numbered/lettered list?

Eg, a) list item 1
b) list item 2
c) list item 3

if item b) was removed c) would automatically move up the list and be 
re-lettered as b)

Thanks for your help.

Vicki


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RE: positioning of blocks

2001-08-10 Thread Etienne Baert \(SPSInfoquest nv\)

But is fo:block-container supported in FOP 0.19 ???
Etienne

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Sent: jeudi 9 aout 2001 21:40
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: positioning of blocks


Use Block Containers

here is an example

   fo:block-container height=225pt width=275pt top=45pt
left=60pt padding=3pt position=absolute
  fo:block
xsl:call-template name=LEGEND/
  /fo:block
   /fo:block-container


Maring, Steve wrote:

 I need to position blocks at very specific places on a page.  These blocks
 corespond to the location of fields that need to be filled in on a form
 which was originally just paper based.

 Can I get an example of how I might use absolute or relative positioning
to
 achieve this?  Or do I need to do something else?

 Thanks.
 -Steve Maring

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Jakarta Projects Communicating

2001-08-10 Thread Alex McLintock


Sam Ruby said:

 As I mentioned, one thing that
 drives me batty is projects not talking.  

There is no forum for Jakarta discussion. There is no mailing list for discussing
all the sub projects as a whole. 

Please prove me wrong!!!


Alex


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Re: Jakarta Projects Communicating

2001-08-10 Thread Stefan Bodewig

On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Alex McLintock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no forum for Jakarta discussion. There is no mailing list
 for discussing all the sub projects as a whole.

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RE: Jakarta Projects Communicating

2001-08-10 Thread Morrison, John

Err, General?

 -Original Message-
 From: Alex McLintock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, 10 August 2001 12:53 pm
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 Subject: Jakarta Projects Communicating
 
 
 
 Sam Ruby said:
 
  As I mentioned, one thing that
  drives me batty is projects not talking.  
 
 There is no forum for Jakarta discussion. There is no mailing 
 list for discussing
 all the sub projects as a whole. 
 
 Please prove me wrong!!!
 
 
 Alex
 
 
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Re: Regression tests (was Re: Public API Change in Driver)

2001-08-10 Thread Sam Ruby

Keiron Liddle wrote:

 So to quote from that page:
  You can run the tests by specifying the build target test ie:
  build.sh test

Yup.  Clear.  RTFM indeed.

Once the Xalan / Fop codegen is cleared up I will try it out.  If
successful, I'll add it to the list.  If I have any questions, I'll be
back.

Thanks!

- Sam Ruby


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Re: Release Schedule

2001-08-10 Thread Weiqi Gao

Arved Sandstrom wrote:

 At 09:46 PM 8/9/01 -0500, Weiqi Gao wrote:
 
  This makes sense.  People who are getting the source
  release can build the Javadocs from the release.
  People who are getting the binary release can't
  build the Java docs, so they need the Javadocs bundled
  in.

 Weiqi,

 I assume you meant that what makes sense is neither what
 I suggested nor what Charlie suggested, but rather,
 prepared Javadoc with the binary distro, and none with
 the source. I pretty much assume that the complete set
 of batch files will be identical acrosss different
 distros.

Of course this is assuming that the Javadoc is going to be useful for the
customers of the binary distribution.

 I want to make it clear that the Javadoc is not going
 to help someone all that much in figuring out how to
 make FOP run. We are talking about the API docs when I
 say Javadoc, _not_ the regular HTML documentation.

I have to admit that during the past few months of trying to use FOP I have
never looked at the Javadoc.  The HTML documentation has been adequate.
However I'm just one user.  There might be other users whose experience says
otherwise.

When I said Javadoc in binary distribution, what I had in mind are things
that I can download from Sun's website, like JAXP 1.1, JSSE, JNDI, etc.
They've always included the Javadocs.  But they distribute only the public
API Javadocs (the javax.naming.*, etc., part, not the com.sun.naming.*,
etc., part).  I don't know how FOP can fit into that model.

Maybe when the public API is separated from the implementation details, FOP
can provide Javadocs only for the public API and not the implemenation
details, thus cutting down the size of the distribution.

Until then, go with your instinct.

 Incidentally, none of this is an issue for me. I have a
 fast machine and I have a cable connection. If all
 potential users also have cable or ADSL connections then
 it's a moot point. But they don't, so distro size (I
 would think) is a consideration.

Speaking as one with a 28.8k modem behind an unlimited hours ISP, I don't
really care about the size either.  (I downloaded my GNOME 1.4 as well as
the .NET SDK over the phone line.  It took only a couple of DAYS.)

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Weiqi Gao
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Re: Attracting companies to FOP (was: Re: Public API Change in Driver)

2001-08-10 Thread Keiron Liddle

Al,

As I mentioned in another email, I have been looking at getting a webstart
demo working (batik has one if you want a look).

Basically it operates like an applet (except it is a full running
application) that is easily run from a web browser.

This will use the awt viewer to load .fo files and display to the user. So
Any help with getting the viewer to work better would be appraciated. One
part that would be very useful for the demo is links loading up new files.
But really any help would be appreciated if it can make things easier and
display better.

Thanks for you input.

Keiron

 ps - I have grafted it on to my app in a fairly crude way.  Anybody else
 interested in a reworking of the .viewer package to make it easier to do?
 If so, I'll put a bit more time in and offer some chages.

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Sequence master for overflow

2001-08-10 Thread Romain Bourgue

Hi all,

I'd like to specify a particular page-master (regions) for the first page and another
page-master (other regions) for rest of the doc wich is the overflow of the first page.

How could I do so ?

Other question : 
Is it possible to avoid the page break into a block ?
(page-break-inside=avoid doesn't seem to be supported)


Thanks for helping.

Romain

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Re: rows and columns spanning

2001-08-10 Thread Louis . Masters


Sanjay:

number-rows-spanned does not work yet.

number-columns-spanned example:

fo:table-cell padding-right=4pt number-columns-spanned=3

-Lou





Sanjay Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/10/2001 12:49:53 PM

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Subject:  rows and columns spanning

Hi All,
I am new to FOP (FOP 0.17.0 DEV) , I have been trying to get
number-columns-spanned and number-rows-spanned properties to work. But I
have had no success so far, therefore I ask you, the creators, are the
properties supposed to work?
If yes, what is the correct usage?


Thanks in advance.


Sanjay Raj


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