Validity checking
Fopsters, I notice that Glen has been progressively adding validity checking to FO elements. I'll take this opportunity to draw the attention of recent foppers to an earlier discussion of the relative merits of push vs. pull parsing in FOP. Alt-design (which I think I will just call FAD in future) uses pull parsing. The discussion went on over a more than one thread, e.g., http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=103507639220269w=4 and re-surfaced in the discussion of marker handling in FAD, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=105455437221298w=4 The best encapsulation is probably the following discussion of the general principles, and their application to validation, with a nice instance of the effects of this validation in the case of simple-page-master. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=103785986329929w=4 Peter -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html
Re: Validity checking
Peter B. West wrote: Hi Peter - did you have a good honeymoon? Fopsters, I notice that Glen has been progressively adding validity checking to FO elements. I'll take this opportunity to draw the attention of recent foppers to an earlier discussion of the relative merits of push vs. pull parsing in FOP. Alt-design (which I think I will just call FAD in future) uses pull parsing. The discussion went on over a more than one thread, e.g., http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=103507639220269w=4 and re-surfaced in the discussion of marker handling in FAD, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=105455437221298w=4 Yes, I had noticed Glen gradually adding validity checking to FOs, and its a very worth while task. Thanks Glen! I have read all those Threads at the time, and I dont think I can add anything to them that hasnt already been said before. On the one hand, Alt-design appears to have a very pure design that is hard to fault, and I think your dedication to developing it is very admirable. But at the same time, I cant help thinking that it is distracting effort away from HEAD. I realise HEAD has its faults, but it is an improvment on the maintenance code, and does what it set out to do, overcome design limitations that prevent keep-* properties being implemented. The best encapsulation is probably the following discussion of the general principles, and their application to validation, with a nice instance of the effects of this validation in the case of simple-page-master. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=103785986329929w=4 Chris
Re: Validity checking
Chris, It was wonderful, thank you. Drive-by tourism of the highest order. When I have some photos of the wedding and the tour I will post them. Peter Chris Bowditch wrote: Peter B. West wrote: Hi Peter - did you have a good honeymoon? -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html
[Fwd: Re: [PROPOSAL] Finally creating the XML Graphics PMC....]
This went only to general. Must get into the habit of actually reading the To address. The discussion seems to have migrated to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Original Message Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Finally creating the XML Graphics PMC Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:43:55 +1000 From: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeremias, Thanks for the work on such thankless tasks as this, and thanks for the nomination. I have expressed some scepticism about the direction the Board is taking with TLPs, but it doesn't hurt to have a sceptic on the PMC. Like you, I'm sure, I don't particularly like administrative work, but I'm honoured to be nominated. I would urge new committers to consider indicating a preparedness (on or off line) to participate in the PMC. When I was first elected to the XML PMC as a FOP rep, I was quite up-front about the appeal of membership on my C.V., so don't be shy. I would also like to see you on the PMC, is only because it is fair to recognise the amount of effort you have put into bringing this TLP into being. If you want to bounce ideas about, or drafts of, the charter off me, please do so. I'll give what assistance I can. Formally, my votes for membership of the XML Graphics PMC are: Joerg Pietschmann +1 Glen Mazza+1 Jeremias Maerki +1 (conditional on his acceptance of nomination) Peter Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi everyone, Berin thankfully pushed again and I'm taking the time for another round. Considering what I think is the general opinion, here's what I propose: 1. We create that XML Graphics PMC taking Batik and FOP under the new umbrella. I hope I don't have to explain again that nothing will change for our users. We will still use the XML project's infrastructure. 2. We will take Batik in even though the patient is in a suboptimal condition ATM. The PMC to-be-formed agrees to keep an eye on the project and help if any potential new committer bubbles up. When Batik's life energies come up to healthy levels again it shall be more strongly represented in the PMC as people come available. 3. I propose the following FOP people for the minimal initial PMC: Peter B. West, Jörg Pietschmann, Glen Mazza. I'd also propose at least someof the more junior committers but I don't know how anyone feels about that. Please propose any additional candidates as you see fit. I don't propose myself but I'm available if anyone proposes me. 4. I propose both Vincent Hardy and Thomas DeWeese from the Batik project as PMC members. I'd appreciate if at least one of the two accepted even if you can't actively participate in the development. You know it isn't much to do but it's important to have at least someone on board. I'll update the board resolution draft and set up a charter draft during the next few days (also peeking at the other works). The proposed PMC members are kindly invited to indicate whether they would be available for the post. Votes of support are requested for the nominations. If anyone is against this proposal (or parts of it) please speak up. We need to get this done. I appreciate any kind of help I can get. Jeremias Maerki -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html
Re: [PROPOSAL] Finally creating the XML Graphics PMC....
Peter B. West wrote: Formally, my votes for membership of the XML Graphics PMC are: Joerg Pietschmann +1 Glen Mazza+1 Jeremias Maerki +1 (conditional on his acceptance of nomination) Peter Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi everyone, 4. I propose both Vincent Hardy and Thomas DeWeese from the Batik project as PMC members. I'd appreciate if at least one of the two accepted even if you can't actively participate in the development. You know it isn't much to do but it's important to have at least someone on board. Note that I will vote for Vincent and/or Thomas if they express an interest. Peter -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html
Re: [PROPOSAL] Finally creating the XML Graphics PMC....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Being new to this VOTING thing, I'm a bit confused. I believe I've made it clear in a previous message, that I'm in favor of the PROPOSAL to create the XML Graphics PMC which will be the new 'home' of FOP and Batik, but I'm unclear on how this process works. I'm also in favor of the votes for membership expressed below (scroll down a bit for my specific votes...). What I'm unclear on, is the 'legal' difference between PROPOSAL and VOTE. I'd thought that the only time a VOTE really counts is when the SUBJECT includes VOTE. I've searched through the ASF docs, and the only place I can see PROPOSAL discussed, is[1], hence my confusion.: [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html Rules require that a negative vote includes an alternative proposal or a detailed explanation on the reasons for the negative vote. In any case, My VOTE(s) for this PROPOSAL (assuming they are appropriate now) are below: Creation of the XML Graphics PMC +1 On Jun 25, 2004, at 2:28 AM, Peter B. West wrote: Peter B. West wrote: Formally, my votes for membership of the XML Graphics PMC are: Joerg Pietschmann +1 +1 Glen Mazza+1 +1 Jeremias Maerki +1 (conditional on his acceptance of nomination) +1 (conditional on his acceptance of nomination) Peter Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi everyone, 4. I propose both Vincent Hardy and Thomas DeWeese from the Batik project as PMC members. I'd appreciate if at least one of the two accepted even if you can't actively participate in the development. You know it isn't much to do but it's important to have at least someone on board. Note that I will vote for Vincent and/or Thomas if they express an interest. As will I. Vincent Hardy +1 (conditional on his acceptance of nomination) Thomas DeWeese +1 (conditional on his acceptance of nomination) Peter -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html Clay Leeds - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Web Developer - Medata, Inc. - http://www.medata.com/ PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/cleeds.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkDcPLMACgkQRixs4Cbu7eh8+wCfSOT2Cr2MPV9QTC46QxTWhTh8 2/oAoLBA5e3j6x2/2pz++XTUP2Y0Cnz+ =savY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [PROPOSAL] Finally creating the XML Graphics PMC....
Clay Leeds wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Being new to this VOTING thing, I'm a bit confused. I believe I've made it clear in a previous message, that I'm in favor of the PROPOSAL to create the XML Graphics PMC which will be the new 'home' of FOP and Batik, but I'm unclear on how this process works. I'm also in favor of the votes for membership expressed below (scroll down a bit for my specific votes...). What I'm unclear on, is the 'legal' difference between PROPOSAL and VOTE. I'd thought that the only time a VOTE really counts is when the SUBJECT includes VOTE. I've searched through the ASF docs, and the only place I can see PROPOSAL discussed, is[1], hence my confusion.: [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html Rules require that a negative vote includes an alternative proposal or a detailed explanation on the reasons for the negative vote. In any case, My VOTE(s) for this PROPOSAL (assuming they are appropriate now) are below: Creation of the XML Graphics PMC +1 Very sensible Clay. It was somewhat premature of me to vote on membership before we had a formal proposal for the XML Graphics top-level project. However, I assume the vote on members will still be valid when we get to putting a proposal forward, and voting on the acceptance of the charter. If not, we can ask for it again. Peter -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html
DO NOT REPLY [Bug 29814] New: - Trailing space not suppressed
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29814. ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29814 Trailing space not suppressed Summary: Trailing space not suppressed Product: Fop Version: 0.20.5 Platform: PC OS/Version: Windows XP Status: NEW Severity: Minor Priority: Other Component: page-master/layout AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A trailing space is not suppressed when a block is aligned right. fo:block text-align=righttest/fo:block fo:block text-align=righttest /fo:block renders as test test
