Re: future of FOP

2005-03-07 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: snip/ I understand that IBM is quite big in the document business. It would be very interesting if IBM committed to supporting FOP like they do for other open source projects here at the Apache Software Foundation. As far as I know IBM even has its own implementation of

Re: page-breaking strategies and performance

2005-03-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi Jeremias, I finally have Knuth's Digital Typography and let myself enlighten by his well-written words. In [1] Simon outlined different strategies for page-breaking, obviously closely following the different approaches defined by Knuth. At first glance, I'd say that

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/flow TableBody.java

2005-03-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: Hi Glen, OH!!! lightBulb state=on wattage=25/ Yes, you're right, Chris--now I see the issue. I implemented validation for about 80% of the FOs, but 80% is not 100%. fo:table-body never had any validation implemented, hence the NPE's that were occurring. I'm glad this issue

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/flow TableBody.java

2005-02-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: On 25.02.2005 07:21:25 Glen Mazza wrote: snip/ For the moment I'm not going to answer the veto itself. Your veto makes this situation a one against one. I have presented my reasons for the change and therefore, I request feedback from the rest of the committers on this

Re: Renaming the AWT Renderer to Java2D Renderer

2005-02-22 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: snip/ So here are the proposed changes: - Package org.apache.fop.render.awt becomes org.apache.fop.render.java2d - AWTRenderer.java becomes Java2DRenderer.java (AWT*.java - Java2D*.java) I think the viewer subpackage can stay as is under the renamed package. Any objections?

Re: FOP 0.15 Double Byte Support

2005-02-11 Thread Chris Bowditch
m r dantuluri wrote: Hi, I am using FOP 0.15 Version. The PDF files rendered by FOP gives junk charecters for double-byte languages like korea, japan etc. FOP 0.15 is ancient. I am fairly confident that I can go as far to say it is unsupported. Please upgrade to 0.20.5. When I search in the net

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop/test/layoutengine/testcases normal-breaking2.xml

2005-02-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Just to be clear. This ArrayOutOfBoundsException is not the same problem I've described in my earlier post. I just happened to run into both problems at the same time. Running normal-breaking2.xml with the current code (without my patch) will result in a document with 1 page

Re: Problem with newlines in TextLayoutManager

2005-02-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Luca (and maybe Finn), Not forgetting Simon :-) snip/ Is there some reason why my patch below would make anything worse? It seems to fix my problem here and all my test cases still pass (at least the ones that passed before). I dont know the answer to your question. However,

Re: start-indent inheritance

2005-01-14 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: There seems to have been some discussion about this in the CR phase: http://www.w3.org/2001/08/28-XSL-PR-DOC.html (see comment 20) It would seem that in the case of reference-area generating FOs start-indent should simply be inherited (comment 20, item 3). In my example the

Re: replace extension bookmarks with XSL 1.1 ones?

2004-12-17 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: They're coming very close (I suspect in a few weeks at the latest) to having a Last Call version--would it be acceptable for you at that stage? I don't mind waiting a little longer. Second edition of working Draft was released today :-) snip/ Chris

Re: Good news: Jeremias has been elected as an ASF member!

2004-12-01 Thread Chris Bowditch
Christian Geisert wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi FOP people, I have the great pleasure to announce that Jeremias Maerki has been elected as an ASF member at the last member's meeting during ApacheCon. This is good news indeed for both Jeremias and the FOP project! Chris

Re: AreaFactory patch

2004-11-03 Thread Chris Bowditch
Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: snip/ Hi fellas, Well... (sigh)... well ('nutha sigh) What *does* Finn think, in that case? So far, I've yet to hear a single *solid* argument pleading against the proposed change. Of course, something like LM Makers can be added later on --the proposed AreaFactory

Re: AreaFactory patch

2004-11-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: snip/ Personally speaking, I am much more amenable to adding some complexity (LM Makers, for example, or opening up our validation) if it helps out Finn's work, because of the sheer weight of contributions he adds to Fop. (We slow him down, we slow down Fop.) Making these

Re: Form Extension

2004-11-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Clay Leeds wrote: On Oct 31, 2004, at 7:17 AM, Florian Hecht wrote: I' ve developed a form extension for XSL-FO for an university project. It's an extension to FO like the fox extensions. With it you can declare and define the usual form elements like edit fields, radio buttons, check boxes,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Performance improvement in property consumption.]

2004-10-15 Thread Chris Bowditch
Clay Leeds wrote: snip/ When I look at the FOP Compliance page, I see a couple of items which are implemented (I assume this page is in reference to the 0_20_2-maintain CVS branch--I am I correct in this assumption?). Hi Clay - yes compliance page does refer to 0.20.5 functionality. snip/ Chris

Re: [PATCH] PDFTextPainter.java in fop-0_20_2-maintain Branch

2004-10-13 Thread Chris Bowditch
Schmitt, Christian (ext.) wrote: Hi, while updating our project I found this one bug where the color for SVG text elements wasn't set correctly. The patch below should fix that. Hi Christian, thanks for submitting your patch. I have created a bugzilla entry and attached your patch to it. You

Re: Valid version of the PDF specification?

2004-10-11 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: OK -- PDF 1.4 it is. I agree with supporting Acrobat V5. However, I don't see backwards compatibility concerns as much of an issue here, given the Acrobat Reader is free and pretty easy to download. Glen, you are right that AR is free and easily available. However, large

Re: AFP Renderer on Sourceforge

2004-09-29 Thread Chris Bowditch
Townsend, Pete wrote: Dear fop-dev, The AFP renderer has now been added to sourceforge http://afp-renderer.sourceforge.net and a release is available for download compatible with FOP 0.20.5, please could you close the patch on bugzilla 31213 (or direct them to the above link) so that people don't

Re: How much work is left before we can release HEAD?

2004-09-28 Thread Chris Bowditch
Simon Pepping wrote: snip/ My interest in FOP's layout is mostly theoretical. I cannot get enthousiastic about todo lists, time schedules and time estimates. Thats understandable. I would like to see keep and break properties implemented. They are the raison d'ĂȘtre of the new design. I do not

Re: [VOTE] Luca Furini for Committer

2004-09-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
J.Pietschmann wrote: Simon Pepping wrote: I propose that we make Luca Furini a member of the FOP team. +1 for me too. Chris

Re: [VOTE:RESULT] Luca Furini for Committer

2004-09-24 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Looks like we don't get any more votes. Let's see: +1 from: Simon Pepping, Clay Leeds, Jeremias Maerki, Oleg Tkachenko, Finn Bock, Glen Mazza, Christian Geisert, Joerg Pietschmann, Bertrand Delacrétaz. (9 votes) cough, cough. I did vote too. Sorry to be picky, but I want to

Re: [VOTE:RESULT] Luca Furini for Committer

2004-09-24 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Sorry, Chris, I don't have your vote on my radar [1]. Must have gone lost somewhere. Thats Ok, I cant find it in the archives either, but it is in my sent items - odd really. Chris

How much work is left before we can release HEAD?

2004-09-22 Thread Chris Bowditch
Team, I have been trying to work out what is left to do be done before we can do an initial release of HEAD, 0.3, say. I know some of you will prefer to aim for a 1.0 and get everything right first time, but please bear with me. I have consolidated the layout issues from [1] and [2] The

Re: [Proposal] I volunteer to help with 0.20.6

2004-09-10 Thread Chris Bowditch
Anton Tagunov wrote: Hi, gang! I'm Anton Tagunov, a committer with Avalon and Excalibur apache projects. I'm afraid I have not been much active withing these projects lately, but I've still got the commit priviliges and an active apache account. Welcome. I have a full understanding of current

Re: [Proposal] I volunteer to help with 0.20.6, part II

2004-09-10 Thread Chris Bowditch
Anton Tagunov wrote: amendment: It really is not such a nonsense as it may seem, Tomcat 3.x.y piecfully co-exist with 4 and 4 coexists with 5. The trouble is everyone always focuses on 0.20.x to the detriment of 1.0 development. Going for the low hanging fruit in 0.20.x may help fix a few minor

Re: remove layout package?

2004-09-06 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: Team, With the recent removal (who did that? ;) of the unused layout.AreaClass and layout.TextState classes, the fop.layout package is now empty save for its hyphenation subpackage. I'd like to drop the layout package and make hyphenation a top-level package (i.e.,

Re: foray integration

2004-09-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Victor Mote wrote: FOP Devs: I checked in with Chris Bowditch recently to see how his foray work was coming, and he indicated that he has not had, and probably will not have in the near future, enough time to complete the evaluation and make a recommendation to you. Victor is right, I dont have

[Fwd: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 29124] - New line breaking algorithm]

2004-09-01 Thread Chris Bowditch
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004-08-31 18:44 --- Thanks for the new patch. I could apply it without problems, and testing it goes well. You mention that you have not implemented the Knuth algorithm for ContentLM. Would it be difficult to do that? FOP team, If I would

Re: AFP Renderer

2004-08-10 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: There are already other AFP Renderers for FOP 0.20.5--actually Hansuli has it in our resources page: http://xml.apache.org/fop/resources.html I agree with Pete here - this AFP renderer is too disjointed and has a few limitations which make it too unpractical. And--amazing what

Re: AFP Renderer

2004-08-10 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hehe, and then there was the one by UBS which I asked them to make OSS and they declined even after killing the project. I don't think there's a big legal problem around AFP, it's probably more the technology itself that has the attribute may cost a bit more on it. :-) While

Re: AFP Renderer

2004-08-10 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: My primary goal is not to get this committed. But if you have code you wish to donate to the ASF, just do so via Bugzilla. It doesn't matter which format--it is the logic in the code that is being sought. No guarantees, however, as to it ever getting committed into FOP,

Re: AFP Renderer

2004-08-10 Thread Chris Bowditch
Townsend, Pete wrote: Glen, I'll get this added as a patch (via Bugzilla as Chris suggested). The developer forum can then decide if this is something you wish to take forward (perhaps someone can get feedback from the user community as to whether it would be desirable). It has saved us a huge

Re: AFP Renderer

2004-08-10 Thread Chris Bowditch
Keiron Liddle wrote: Well I did it for an internal project and was never allowed to release the code so it has remained unchanged and closed for some time now. I still believe that all is needed is for someone to start put the code into the public. The basic format (although binary and a bit

Re: generating PDFs in non-english

2004-08-09 Thread Chris Bowditch
Nuno Lopes wrote: Hello, I was trying to make some PDFs of the PHP manual when I got some problems. The manual is written in docbook and then I have a XSL sheet. I can generate the manual in english, portuguese, french,... but not in russian. Firstly, please post user related questions to the user

Re: AFP Renderer

2004-08-09 Thread Chris Bowditch
Townsend, Pete wrote: Dear FOP Developers, Could you let me know whether you'd be interested in adding a AFP renderer to the project. I really think it would be worthwhile as many enterprise scale projects use AFP printing and being able to use a formatted object so they can be rendered as AFP or

Re: [GUMP@brutus]: xml-fop-maintenance/xml-fop-maintenance failed

2004-08-04 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: I'll take care of it by this weekend, if not much sooner. Thanks Glen, where would we be without you! Chris

Re: Redesign

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Bowditch
Clay Leeds wrote: On Aug 2, 2004, at 1:48 AM, Chris Bowditch wrote: Clay Leeds wrote: snip/ Just to be sure, are these amongst the changes you're looking for: Hi Clay, yes these are the changes I was looking for. If you could apply the changes manually I would be most grateful. Thanks, Chris

Re: Switch from AddLMVisitor to FObj.addLayoutManager()

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: Well, the number of patches and enhancements made to layout/rendering has only been about 2-3 per month in the 12 months that we've had AddLMVisitor. FOP won't finish at that rate, and that *will* affect the users. I agree that FOP wont finish at its current rate of development!

Re: Redesign

2004-08-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Clay Leeds wrote: snip/ Just to be sure, are these amongst the changes you're looking for: Hi Clay, yes these are the changes I was looking for. If you could apply the changes manually I would be most grateful. Thanks, Chris Justified Text High This has been completed, thanks largely to

Re: Switch from AddLMVisitor to FObj.addLayoutManager()

2004-08-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Victor Mote wrote: J.Pietschmann wrote: Well, the real stakeholders (aka users) are probably more interested in working footnotes, or multi-column layout. I don't understand. More interested in working footnotes or multi-column layout than what? Is removing AddLMVisitor an advancement in

Re: Redesign

2004-07-30 Thread Chris Bowditch
Andrej Czapszys wrote: Please excuse my ignorance, but what is the current status of the redesign, and how might I help out? The website explanation wasn't very clear. The website is great for the maintenance versions of FOP 0.20.x, but is a little unclear with regards to the redesign (sorry

Re: FOray 0.1 release

2004-07-14 Thread Chris Bowditch
Victor Mote wrote: FOP Devs: I am pleased to announce the release of FOray 0.1 alpha 1. This release is only useful to FOP developers. Some useful information about the release can be found in these places: http://foray.sourceforge.net/module/font/index.html

Re: Validity checking

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
Peter B. West wrote: Hi Peter - did you have a good honeymoon? Fopsters, I notice that Glen has been progressively adding validity checking to FO elements. I'll take this opportunity to draw the attention of recent foppers to an earlier discussion of the relative merits of push vs. pull

Re: [PROPOSAL] Finally creating the XML Graphics PMC....

2004-06-22 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: Reconsidered. OK, I'll join, and reinstate my first proposal, that of you joining the PMC and (yes) being its head. Hi Glen, glad that you reconsidered, I agree with Jeremias, the PMC needs you. It also needs Jeremias, so I second your proposal to have Jeremias on the PMC.

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/render/pdf PDFRenderer.java

2004-06-17 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Chris, please check the settings of your IDE not to allow tab characters. Thanks! Hi Jeremias, I cant simply turn off Tabs as I need them for my paid work! I would like to be able to run checkstyle to check for this sort of mistake, but have run into some problems with it.

Re: Offline

2004-06-17 Thread Chris Bowditch
Peter B. West wrote: Fopfellows, I will be offline for the next week. I'm marrying Jenni tomorrow, and honeymooning in the frozen south of the South Island of New Zealand for a week. I'll post some photos to my web site when I get back. Peter - congratulations! Enjoy your well deserved break.

Re: [Fwd: CVS and Subversion]

2004-06-14 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: Noted. My instinct would be for us to wait about 6-9 months after several other projects move over. If no problems with them, or at least no major problems, then I think it would be fine for us to switch products if other committers would like. However, this will still require

Re: InlineLMs

2004-06-01 Thread Chris Bowditch
Simon Pepping wrote: Inline area generating LMs and Inline area containing LMs and their corresponding FO nodes = In the listings below the LMs are followed by the FO nodes that generate them. Thanks for the summary Simon. snip/ Note that

Re: column balancing

2004-05-28 Thread Chris Bowditch
A.M. wrote: Replying off-list: huh? I'm not sure I really have a choice concerning the fop version. Considering I needed column balancing yesterday, I'll take the route that gives me balanced columns ASAP. I haven't looked at the PDF rendering code yet, so (neglecting your desire for the dev

Re: column balancing

2004-05-27 Thread Chris Bowditch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A.M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 27.05.2004 16:27:29: Excuse me for being annoying with the column balancing issue (from fop-user), but it's something that we crucially need. I would like to offer my time to implement this- however it's not clear to me which block

Re: Justification and line breaking

2004-05-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
Simon Pepping wrote: snip/ No exceptions. I ran Luca's test fo files successfully. Strange how you and I always get such different results. It doesnt run with any file despite changing the language to en. I always get NPE on LLM:249. Looking at the code it would appear to be a mistake as NPE

Re: Justification and line breaking

2004-05-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
Peter B. West wrote: snip/ Simon, yes! That's what branching is there for. People seem to be afraid of it, but it is an enormously useful tool for just such situations. I think it's always a good idea to tag the tree immediately before a branch. Hi Peter, its not that I am afraid of

Re: Justification and line breaking

2004-05-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
Luca Furini wrote: JThe method startParagraphs dereferences only knuthParagraphs and textIndent, so maybe there is a missing line concerning their initialization. I have proved that textIndent is definitely null when it is not specified on the block. snip/ While textIndent is initialized in the

Re: Justification and line breaking

2004-05-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
Luca Furini wrote: You are completely right; by the way, what other child LMs could the LLM have? I'm just guessing, but I think anything that can appear inline, i.e. hyperlinks, leaders, etc. Block level stuff like Tables and graphics can not be children of the LLM. I do not believe that the

Commits

2004-05-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
Team, thanks to everyone who agreed to hold off commits until the fate of Luca's patch had been decided. I think everyone is in agreement that this first patch needs more work, so I will re-sync with CVS. Therefore, it is safe to make commits to HEAD once more. Thanks, Chris

Re: can't find default configuration file

2004-05-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
Clay Leeds wrote: BTW, Anyone else seeing sporadic mail issues? I didn't actually *receive* Andreas' message. (I noticed in MARC, and am responding before I go home). Hi Clay - I noticed that the mailing lists were very slow yesterday, with responses appearing in MARC well before I received

Re: Fixing break-* properties

2004-05-25 Thread Chris Bowditch
Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: Hi Andreas, its great to have you trying to help with layout. Adding the necessary activation code to the FObjs to pass these properties to Layout is easy enough, but I'm still having a bit of difficulty in 'seeing' what needs to be done to handle this in the respective

Re: Justification and line breaking

2004-05-24 Thread Chris Bowditch
Hi Luca, I have managed to apply your patch. Testing has not gone well. Firstly, I had trouble compiling, due to BLM using the old constructor for LLM with FObj as the first argument. This is easily corrected, but I would have expected a change to BLM in your patch file. Also I found a few

Re: Justification and line breaking

2004-05-24 Thread Chris Bowditch
Hi Luca, I have managed to apply your patch. Testing has not gone well. Firstly, I had trouble compiling, due to BLM using the old constructor for LLM with FObj as the first argument. This is easily corrected, but I would have expected a change to BLM in your patch file. Also I found a few calls

Re: Markers

2004-05-21 Thread Chris Bowditch
Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: Just gathering my thoughts here... Thanks for your feedback. I need all the help I can get! If I interpret the related code in BLM correctly, then the childLMs are all created (and call their addAreas() ) after the first marker has been added ( line 265:

Re: FOray integration to FOP

2004-05-21 Thread Chris Bowditch
Victor Mote wrote: FOP Devs: I apologize for intruding again. After thrashing around for a bit, I No need to apologize, your input is welcome. concluded that there were an overwhelming number of good reasons for me to import the entire FOP maintenance branch into the FOray repository, then delete

Re: Justification and line breaking

2004-05-21 Thread Chris Bowditch
Hi Luca, May I start by thanking you for your hard work in submitting the patch for Knuth's Line breaking algorithm. I'm just starting to look at your patch now. First thing that strikes me, and this was pointed out to me before I became a committer. Please try to avoid commenting out large

Applying Large Patches (was Re: Justification and line breaking)

2004-05-21 Thread Chris Bowditch
FOP Devs, I'm trying to apply Luca's patch and running into problems. The hunks in the first 9/10 files get applied okay, but when the patch program gets to LineLayoutManager, it only reconises 6 hunks, the seventh is very big and for some reason the patch program thinks it has found the start

Re: Applying Large Patches (was Re: Justification and line breaking)

2004-05-21 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Chris, I've just upgraded my sources and tried to apply the same patch within Eclipse to see what happens. I get two parts of the patch that Eclipse claims to be unable to apply correctly. But this only makes up a few lines in all. Maybe if Luca would send you the whole

Re: Incremental vs rewrite

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Bowditch
Simon Pepping wrote: That was basic work. The basis of the property subsystem is good, and shorthands all work, I think. But it is another question which properties are really implemented w.r.t. their effect on the layout. I do not think we have a good overview. See Glen's experimental approach:

Re: Incremental vs rewrite

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Bowditch
Peter B. West wrote: My understanding is that thanks to the property work earlier this year by Glen, Finn and Simon, that properties are 95% there, including shorthands. Admittely I didnt follow their work very closely, so could be wrong about this. Im sure Glen will interject and correct me on

Re: Just do it

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Guys, my comment on this is: Commit it if you think it's an improvement. It may be a bit different if it concerned design questions, but with small fixed and improvements I'd rather you guys just did it. If it turns out to be a mistake it can easily be corrected. That's why

Re: Trait.ID_AREA

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Bowditch
Tibor Vyletel wrote: Hi guys, In previous versions (builds) of FOP areas have had set ID_AREA trait in order to allow identification of original FONodes (and XML elements) they had been created from. Why is this feature missing in recent builds (1.0DEV)? Is there any other possibility how to

Markers

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Bowditch
FOP Devs, I'm currently trying to get Markers working. The problem I have is that the first marker on page 2 is actually being added to the markers on Page 1. the markers are added to pageViewport in the BLM.addAreas method. Now my understanding is that addAreas are called once the BPs have

Re: ANN: FOray

2004-05-19 Thread Chris Bowditch
Victor Mote wrote: Simon Pepping wrote: I sympathize with this goal as well. I realize that that is not quite in line with my reaction to Glen's recent patch. I agree with Chris and Glen that it is not currently a key goal for FOP. And since we do not have a strong proponent and architect of

Re: Justification and line breaking

2004-05-19 Thread Chris Bowditch
Luca Furini wrote: I am still thinking about justification and the more general problem of line-breaking, and I have come to think that it's quite strange that the LineLayoutManager should make choices about breaking points using only the information provided by the TextLayoutManagers, while it

Re: Incremental vs rewrite

2004-05-19 Thread Chris Bowditch
Clay Leeds wrote: Be warned that the RenderX testsuite files require a relatively high degree of spec compliance. Shorthands are used everywhere, all table examples require auto-layout, and so on. I confess that I learned a few more things about FO when testing with these files... Sounds like a

Re: ANN: FOray

2004-05-18 Thread Chris Bowditch
Victor Mote wrote: Dear FOP Developers: Hi Victor - welcome back. I was saddened by your decision to leave FOP. After considering a return to FOP development, and briefly discussing the pros and cons with those whom I consider to be the FOP development leaders, I have decided to partially fork FOP

Re: Table processing question

2004-05-18 Thread Chris Bowditch
Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: Hmm.. Yes, but... these properties are not specifically meant for the rows themselves. They are meant to be propagated to/combined with those defined on the table-cells contained by it. Good point. ( IIC, resolving the possible conflicts WRT backgrounds/borders can be

Re: Table processing question - follow-up

2004-05-18 Thread Chris Bowditch
Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: comments below: Posting this as a follow-up to my earlier ponderings. If we don't get it implemented, or postpone this one indefinitely, at least we'll have it nicely summed up for possible future use... (Who knows, maybe parts of these remarks can be used to implement

Re: ANN: FOray

2004-05-18 Thread Chris Bowditch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some elaborations on this from my side. Please feel free to ignore it entirely. Thanks for speaking up. Just because you are not a committer, doesnt mean your opinion doesnt matter. This is open source way. The project is owned by everyone. snip/ 5. Time goes on, A' and

Borders on Blocks

2004-05-18 Thread Chris Bowditch
FOP Devs, I would appreciate some advice. I have noticed that top/bottom borders dont work on regular blocks. This is because the PDF Renderer uses block.getWidth() to determine the length of the border lines. Here is a sinnper of Area Tree output: block width=138897 ipd=0

Re: Borders on Blocks

2004-05-18 Thread Chris Bowditch
Chris Bowditch wrote: FOP Devs, I would appreciate some advice. I have noticed that top/bottom borders dont work on regular blocks. This is because the PDF Renderer uses block.getWidth() to determine the length of the border lines. Here is a sinnper of Area Tree output: block width

Re: ANN: FOray

2004-05-18 Thread Chris Bowditch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Bowditch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18.05.2004 12:03:33: This is very true, I also have the same concerns, which is why I have set out some simple objectives that must be met before the redesign is ready for an initial release. See here: http://xml.apache.org/fop

Re: cyrillic

2004-05-18 Thread Chris Bowditch
Baron Moenghausen wrote: Hello! What wrong with pdf made with cyrillic KOI8-r? Hello, sorry but I dont understand your question. Could you rephrase it and maybe elaborate. Thanks, Chris

Re: Table processing question

2004-05-17 Thread Chris Bowditch
Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: snip/ Now, I'm wondering, since the spec states that an fo:table-row doesn't generate any reference areas and since it can contain only TableCells, whether it wouldn't be more interesting (heap-wise :) ) to create just one TableRow object per TableBody, use it to process

Re: Justification

2004-04-26 Thread Chris Bowditch
J.Pietschmann wrote: Simon Pepping wrote: Summarizing, you mean that 1. the layout system should calculate the justification and add corresponding word and space areas to the area tree; Eh, not quite. The problem is that the actual justification can only be done after page number citations

Offline

2004-04-08 Thread Chris Bowditch
Team, just to let you know that I will be off line until Monday 19th April. Best regards, Chris

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28130] - Errors in the calculation of adjustment factors

2004-04-05 Thread Chris Bowditch
Simon Pepping wrote: I believe the reason why justification still doesnt work after correcting the issues you've found is because TextLM.addAreas doesnt create separate areas for each word - it creates one big area in some cases for whole line, so there is no opportunity to add space adjust

[Fwd: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 27901] - [PATCH] TextCharIterator.remove() does not work properly]

2004-04-05 Thread Chris Bowditch
Comments most welcome. Glen, In general I like your solution. However, I did a bit of testing with inlines and the effects are very serious. Valid non-whitespace characters from the enclosing block are simply deleted if there is whitespace at the start of the fo:inline. Chris

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28130] - Errors in the calculation of adjustment factors

2004-04-05 Thread Chris Bowditch
Chris Bowditch wrote: Simon Pepping wrote: I believe the reason why justification still doesnt work after correcting the issues you've found is because TextLM.addAreas doesnt create separate areas for each word - it creates one big area in some cases for whole line, so there is no opportunity

Applying patches

2004-04-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Team, sorry but another newbie committer question: I downloaded a patch program from the internet. Not sure if there is a specific one I need, or whether they all conform to a standard. When I try to run the patch program with unified patch file in the xml-fop directory, it cant figure out

Re: Applying patches

2004-04-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi Chris, I'm applying the patches directly in Eclipse which provides graphical helpers to resolve problems like this. Patches can even be copy/pasted. I've had problem with the patch.exe myself in the past, but since I'm using Eclipse I've had almost no problems anymore.

Re: How to work with Commons Logging in FOP

2004-04-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: Chris Bowditch wrote: snip/ -Dorg.apache.commons.logging.Log=org.apache.commons.logging.impl.SimpleLog We would need to add this to FOP.sh or FOP.bat in CVS It might be more efficient to store this information in the Ant build file instead--I believe the .sh/.bat files just

Re: Applying patches

2004-04-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: I use this tool (I couldn't find a patch program in WinCVS): http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=105874140111833w=2 Two other notes to read: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=106961785412734w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=106962776820285w=2 to apply the

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/flow Block.java

2004-04-02 Thread Chris Bowditch
Christian Geisert wrote: cbowditch (at) apache.org wrote: cbowditch2004/04/02 05:50:52 Modified:src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/flow Block.java Log: Applied Luca Furini's patch from bugzilla entry 28021. Corrections to behaviour of whitespace-treatment property Revision Changes

Re: [VOTE] Simon Pepping for Committer

2004-04-01 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: Here's my +1. Simon has certainly shown a great understanding of the redesigned layout and has helped me improve my understanding at times. I think committership is long overdue, and if Glen hadnt proposed this Vote, I would have done. +1 Chris

Re: [VOTE] Switch from Avalon to Commons-Logging

2004-03-24 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: snip/ Accordingly, I think it's time now for us to do the same for FOP. I'd like us to drop the Avalon library for 1.0, and switch to Jakarta Commons-Logging [4] as a replacement for Avalon's logging component. For 1.0, I propose having FOP join Batik, Xalan, Xerces,

Re: Hyphenation

2004-03-17 Thread Chris Bowditch
Luca Furini wrote: Hi all! I am an italian student of the University of Bologna. I have tried to solve a few problems concerning hyphenation, in particular: - show the '-' at the end of the hyphenated lines - use the fo:hyphenate property to enable hyphenation, instead of the alignment -

Re: temporarily inactive

2004-03-15 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: Team, I'll be taking a few weeks off the project, there's some things I want to study and get out of the way right now. I'll be back to coding soon! Thanks for letting us know Glen. I just want to thank you for all your work to date on FOP. It takes FOP another step closer

Re: CMYK- jpg

2004-03-12 Thread Chris Bowditch
Naveen M V wrote: Hi All, I need to generate PDF files using XSL-FO transformation and embed CMYK -jpeg for printing. I am using fop-0.20.5. Can any body help. When you say printing are you using the Postscript renderer? Everything that is currently known about JPEG graphics is on the website,

Re: Thanks Jeremias

2004-03-03 Thread Chris Bowditch
Peter B. West wrote: Thanks again, Jeremias, for all of the licensing housekeeping. I'm sorry I didn't get around to giving you a hand with this. Does anything (apart from the hyphenation mess) remain to be done? Peter I would also like to thank Jeremias for sorting out the licensing, not

Re: Cocoon appears to be switching to 1.4

2004-03-03 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: They're currently voting on the Cocoon side[1] to set 1.4 as the minimum JDK for their next 2.2 release. So far it looks good for approval. I'm not so sure it does, look at the 3rd mail in the thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=107813002510299w=2 and this

Re: [VOTE] Clay Leeds for Committer

2004-03-01 Thread Chris Bowditch
Glen Mazza wrote: snip/ The updates and issues he has brought up to us this week, I'm sure he would be happy to take care of for us, just as soon as we provide him write access. I also hope he develops a psychological concept of ownership of our website over time, resulting in it looking

Newbie Commiter Questions

2004-03-01 Thread Chris Bowditch
I know this subject has come up before, but I still cant quite get things working after trawling through the archives. I'm using WinCVS 1.3 and Putty to connect to the cvs.apache.org. My understanding was that using SSH keys was optional but strongly encouraged. So I had a go at creating the

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