RE: Showing FO output

2002-11-07 Thread Ronald Jaramillo
A year and a half ago we started to do something like that for a client ( we
were even planning to ship an installer with a JRE bundled ), until they
went out of bussines :(. 
But yesterday due to a mail from Keiron in replay to 'forrest is coming( fop
logo )' I fished out of my HD some artwork ( splash screen and logo ) we
were planning to use for the project. You can see some images @
http://www.manoamano.dk/FOP/ .
mvh
Ronald

 -Original Message-
 From: Oleg Tkachenko [mailto:olegt;multiconn.com]
 Sent: 6. november 2002 18:06
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Showing FO output
 
 
 Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 
  I'm going a step further and I'm thinking about providing a 
 development
  tool for FOP. We've developed a simple one at work where we could
  specify either FO or XML/xSLT file and an output format 
 (FO, PDF, PS etc.).
  Then we have that big Process button that runs the 
 document through
  Xalan and FOP. The configuration is saved when you exit, but at the
  moment we don't have multiple profiles. I've got a few good 
 ideas about
  an improved tool in this direction. It would also be a good 
 project for
  someone who'd like to contribute to the FOP project but 
 doesn't want to
  go to the depths. I can elaborate if anyone is interested.
 
 I agree with you, I was thinking about it too. btw, I found 
 an interesting 
 mail in the xsl-list archive back to 1999 from James Tauber 
 about his vision 
 of FOP's future[1]:
 To give a little insight into my *long term* vision for FOP. 
 Eventually, I
 would like to put a GUI interface on top to allow exactly 
 this kind of human
 fine-tuning. The FOP engine does an initial layout and then a 
 human can
 override line/column/page breaks, hyphenation, kerning, etc., 
 saving back as
 formatting objects again.
 Well, but 1.0dev certanly is higher in the task list.
 
 [1] 
http://www.biglist.com/lists/xsl-list/archives/199905/msg00504.html
-- 
Oleg Tkachenko
eXperanto team
Multiconn Technologies, Israel


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CMYK

2002-01-10 Thread Ronald Jaramillo

Hi,
I'been working on a RDMS-xml-fo-pdf solution for a katalog. The pdf look
good ( Thanks Karen for the improved tables!! ). Our customer want to send
it to a print-shop( offset ), but the pdf is in RGB color space and the
print-shop need it in CMYK. From the archives I have the impresion that it's
not posible to
generate pdf with fop in CMYK color space. Has somebody some advice? It's
posible to translate the generated pdf color space to CMYK (whitout
quality loss ) with a third party tool? Or has someone a patched version
of FOP with a CMYK flag lying around? I aprettiate every input!

MVH
Ronald Jaramillo
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RE: Attracting companies to FOP (was: Re: Public API Change in Driver)

2001-08-10 Thread Ronald Jaramillo


I agree with Mark on this,
Just to make a point  I'll tell you about my experience with fop.
At my company we focus on delivering web aplication for traditional brick 
mortar
companies. We' have done some repporting apps and document generation like
invoices
and the like.
When we first needed to generate pdf from scratch( 2 years ago ), we haven't
heard
of fop, so we used pdflib together with java. This was a time consuming and
frustrating process, becouse it was so lowlevel. You have to calculate the
position of all
elements, the number of lines the amount of space, everything. 
Making a nice table will take ages. We endend up writing a lot of classes
wich parsed and
formated a html subset, becouse having the presentation tied so close to the
code was
a maintainence nightmare.
When i found fop, i was happy to trow away all those classes. 
We have been used fop succesfully on production environment for several of
our custumers for
about 1/2 year.
Fop right now is capable of doing what we need an more than that. If there
is some
feature we need in the future, we will try to implement it. My point is
that, if my
company has been aware of fop existance and capabilities from the begining,
we will
rather had contributed to fop enhancement instead of investing time on those
silly classes.

IMHO fop should present itself on the website in a much better way.
The developers on this list may think there is a long way to go, but
that depends on how
you look at it. For what we needed in our company fop was ready for prime
time.
I think the site should be more especific about what fop is able to do right
now, maybe show
some examples/screen-dumps of tables, svg, images or some unicode documents.

Arved wrote
I look at OS projects like Subversion and I'm green with envy.
Well on theirs   site, they has a section devoted to well define specific
task that need to be done.
Thats something we should do for fop site as well.
For instance, it could be nice to define what it takes to implement
background image support.
Or feature x. I think this model will fit better whith the way fop is been
developed ( people poking at
it on their spare time, comming and going ).
Having an overview of what fop supports, and a list of what need's to be
implemented grouped in self contained
task could be a good place to start. Then a developer/company can see if
their problem can be solved with
fop, and if not they can stimate what it takes to implement what they need.


MVH
Ronald


Mark wrote 
 I'm just saying it how I see it, of course; maybe I'm oversimplifying
 and talking out my botty. But the FOP page doesn't really get me all
 worked up about how it's going to change the world, even though I'm
 pretty sure it's impact will be huge. So I guess I'm saying it's a
 marketing problem...?
 
 Cheers
 Mark
 
 
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RE: external-graphic - problem using relative path

2001-07-18 Thread Ronald Jaramillo

try  fo:external-graphic src=file:VincentSite/img/chkbxgif-y.gif/

mvh
Ronald

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From: Micheál Healy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:16 PM
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Subject: external-graphic - problem using relative path


Hi all,

I posted a message regarding this problem a couple of weeks ago, but
received no reply.  
 
I need to reference images (external-graphic) in my xsl.  It seems to work
fine when I use the absolute path, but not when I use the relative path.
Please find attached my original message - it's a little more detail and
contains some sample XSL.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

TIA,

Micheál

Micheál Healy
Engitech Ltd.
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RE: external-graphic - problem using relative path

2001-07-18 Thread Ronald Jaramillo

try placing an image (say foo.gif ) on the same directory as the fop.jar .
Then write a simple fo file:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
fo:root xmlns:fo=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format;
fo:layout-master-set
fo:simple-page-master master-name=simple
fo:region-body margin-top=3cm/
fo:region-before extent=1.5cm/
/fo:simple-page-master
/fo:layout-master-set

fo:page-sequence master-name=simple
fo:flow flow-name=xsl-region-body
fo:block
fo:external-graphic src=file:foo.gif/
/fo:block
/fo:flow
/fo:page-sequence
/fo:root

Place it in the same directory and test if from the command line.
If this does not work, something is broken with the version of fop you are
using.
Most probably the path you are using should be relative to where the fop.jar
is placed ( this is what works for me, not necesary the best way to do it )

MVH
Ronald


 -Original Message-
 From: Micheál Healy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:44 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: external-graphic - problem using relative path
 
 
 Ronald,
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortuately, it hasn't 
 worked.  I still get
 the following error - Invalid Image URL - error on relative URL :
 java.lang.NullPointerException.  I tried both fo:external-graphic
 src=file:VincentSite/img/chkbxgif-y.gif/ and fo:external-graphic
 src=file:/VincentSite/img/chkbxgif-y.gif/ with identical 
 results.  I
 wonder if it's something to do with my configuration, 
 although, as I said, I
 can read the dictionary using a relative path.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Micheál
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ronald Jaramillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:38 PM
 Subject: RE: external-graphic - problem using relative path
 
 
  try  fo:external-graphic 
 src=file:VincentSite/img/chkbxgif-y.gif/
 
  mvh
  Ronald
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Micheál Healy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:16 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: external-graphic - problem using relative path
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I posted a message regarding this problem a couple of weeks ago, but
  received no reply.
 
  I need to reference images (external-graphic) in my xsl.  
 It seems to
 work
  fine when I use the absolute path, but not when I use the 
 relative path.
  Please find attached my original message - it's a little 
 more detail and
  contains some sample XSL.
 
  Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
 
  TIA,
 
  Micheál
 
  Micheál Healy
  Engitech Ltd.
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