Re: Handling of text-align=justify when nesting blocks

2004-09-03 Thread Luca Furini
Arnd Beißner wrote:

 In the example, line 2 is neither the last nor the only line of a block,
 and it's also not a line ending in U+000A, so it should be justified.

Section 7.15.10 of the recommendation states that the property
text-align-last Specifies the alignment of the last line-area child of the
last block-area generated and returned by the formatting object, *and to any
line-area generated by the formatting object whose following sibling is a
block-area that is not a line-area*, and any lines in the block ending in
U+000A.

So, as a fo:block generates a block-area that is not a line-area (its
children are line-areas), I think line 2 should *not* be justified.

Regards
Luca






Re: Handling of text-align=justify when nesting blocks

2004-09-03 Thread arnd . beissner
Luca Furini [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 03.09.2004 10:19:06:

 Section 7.15.10 of the recommendation states that the property
 text-align-last Specifies the alignment of the last line-area child of 
the
 last block-area generated and returned by the formatting object, *and to 
any
 line-area generated by the formatting object whose following sibling is 
a
 block-area that is not a line-area*, and any lines in the block ending 
in
 U+000A.

Thanks for digging this out. I will make a suggestion to the
xsl-editors to change the wording in 7.15.9 accordingly.

Thanks,

Arnd
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Arnd Beißner
Cappelino Informationstechnologie GmbH


Handling of text-align=justify when nesting blocks

2004-09-03 Thread arnd . beissner
Editors,

please consider the following inconsistency in the recommendation:

Example:

fo:block text-align=justify
TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE LINES 
 TEST ENDS A. 
fo:block
whatever
/fo:block
TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE LINES 
 TEST ENDS B.
/fo:block

Now what would you expect:

Version A:

TEST TEST TEST TEST
TEST ENDS A.
whatever
TEST TEST TEST TEST
TEST ENDS B.

OR

Version B: (second line is justified)

TEST TEST TEST TEST
TEST   ENDS  A.
whatever
TEST TEST TEST TEST
TEST ENDS B.

Common sense would probably say A:

But, 7.15.9 of the rec says:

The last (or only) line of any block, and any lines in the block ending in 

U+000A, will be aligned in accordance with the text-align-last
property value. If such lines are to be justified specify
text-align-last='justify'.

In the example, line 2 is neither the last nor the only line of a block, 
and it's also not a line ending in U+000A, so it should be justified.

In contrast to this, 7.15.10 (text-align-last) says
(thanks to Luca Furini for the hint):

Specifies the alignment of the last line-area child of the last
block-area generated and returned by the formatting object, and to any
line-area generated by the formatting object whose following sibling is a
block-area that is not a line-area, and any lines in the block ending in 
U+000A.

If 7.15.9 were worded like 7.15.10, the example would be formatted like
in Version A, which is probably what the editors intended.

7.15.9 and 7.15.10 now clearly contradict each other, IMO.
My suggestion is to change the cited portion of 7.15.9 to the
following wording:

The last line-area child of the last block-area generated and returned
by the formatting object, and any line-area generated by the formatting
object whose following sibling is a block-area that is not a line-area,
and any lines in the block ending in U+000A, will be aligned in accordance
with the text-align-last property value. If such lines are to be
justified specify text-align-last='justify'.

Thanks for considering this,

Arnd
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Arnd Beißner
Cappelino Informationstechnologie GmbH


Re: Handling of text-align=justify when nesting blocks

2004-09-02 Thread Simon Pepping
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:10:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fo:block id=outer text-align=justify
 TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE LINES 
  TEST ENDS A. 
 fo:block id=inner
 whatever
 /fo:block
 TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE LINES 
  TEST ENDS B.
 /fo:block
 
 The line 2 ( TEST ENDS A.) is the last line before the block inner 
 starts, but it's not the last line of the block with id outer. The last 
 line of the block outer is: ( TEST ENDS B.).
 
 Get my point, or am I still being unclear?
 
 Can we safely assume the rec. means block area here instead of just 
 block? I think we can't, since then that would mean that the last line 
 on a page (or column) would also be formatted left-aligned instad of 
 justified even if it's not the last line of the block (block as in 
 fo:block).

It sounds like you are right. This would apply to a displayed formula
in a paragraph. Nobody would want a layout in which the last line
before the display is justified, so there seems to be a problem here.

Regards, Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl



Handling of text-align=justify when nesting blocks

2004-09-01 Thread arnd . beissner
Hi fopdevs,

if you have time, consider this:

fo:block text-align=justify
TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE LINES 
 TEST ENDS A. 
fo:block
whatever
/fo:block
TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE LINES 
 TEST ENDS B.
/fo:block

Now what would you expect:

A:

TEST TEST TEST TEST
TEST ENDS A.
whatever
TEST TEST TEST TEST
TEST ENDS B.

OR

B: (second line is justified)

TEST TEST TEST TEST
TEST  ENDS A.
whatever
TEST TEST TEST TEST
TEST ENDS B.

Common sense would probably say A:

But, 7.15.9 of the rec says:

The last (or only) line of any block, and any lines in the block ending in 
U+000A, will be aligned
in accordance with the text-align-last property value. If such lines are 
to be justified specify
text-align-last='justify'.

In the example, line 2 is neither the last nor the only line of a block, 
and it's also not a line ending in U+000A, so it should be justified.

Right?

FOP 0.20.5 does A.

Any opinions?

BTW: you can ignore any whitespace/linefeed-treatement issues here (all 
set to default): the above example formats the same with FOP if you put 
all of it in a single line.

Thanks,

Arnd
-- 
Arnd Beißner
Cappelino Informationstechnologie GmbH


Re: Handling of text-align=justify when nesting blocks

2004-09-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
fo:block text-align=justify
TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE LINES 
 TEST ENDS A. 
fo:block
...
In the example, line 2 is neither the last nor the only line of a block, 
and it's also not a line ending in U+000A, so it should be justified.
It is the last line in the block. Trailing whitespace util the
closing tag is normalized away (or should be, FOP shows bugs here).
Why do you think it is otherwise?
J.Pietschmann


Re: Handling of text-align=justify when nesting blocks

2004-09-01 Thread arnd . beissner
J.Pietschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 01.09.2004 22:48:17:

  fo:block text-align=justify
  TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE 
LINES 
   TEST ENDS A. 
  fo:block
 ...
  In the example, line 2 is neither the last nor the only line of a 
block, 
  and it's also not a line ending in U+000A, so it should be justified.
 
 It is the last line in the block. Trailing whitespace util the
 closing tag is normalized away (or should be, FOP shows bugs here).
 Why do you think it is otherwise?

Hm, I think it's not the last line of the block. Let's see my example 
again, but this time with ids:

fo:block id=outer text-align=justify
TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE LINES 
 TEST ENDS A. 
fo:block id=inner
whatever
/fo:block
TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST . ENOUGH TEXT TO FORMAT INTO MULTIPLE LINES 
 TEST ENDS B.
/fo:block

The line 2 ( TEST ENDS A.) is the last line before the block inner 
starts, but it's not the last line of the block with id outer. The last 
line of the block outer is: ( TEST ENDS B.).

Get my point, or am I still being unclear?

Can we safely assume the rec. means block area here instead of just 
block? I think we can't, since then that would mean that the last line 
on a page (or column) would also be formatted left-aligned instad of 
justified even if it's not the last line of the block (block as in 
fo:block).

Thanks for any input,

Arnd
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Arnd Beißner
Cappelino Informationstechnologie GmbH