FOray integration to FOP

2004-05-21 Thread Victor Mote
FOP Devs:

I apologize for intruding again. After thrashing around for a bit, I
concluded that there were an overwhelming number of good reasons for me to
import the entire FOP maintenance branch into the FOray repository, then
delete and modify as necessary for FOray integration. One of the biggest
benefits is that it will greatly simplify any integration that FOP decides
to do with Foray. Specifically, I don't have to be in the business of trying
to coordinate such integration, and you don't have to listen to me trying to
do that. Just come get it if you want it. The good news is that I will
essentially be doing the maintenance branch integration for you -- there
shouldn't be much to do except decide whether you want it or not. I have
posted greater detail here:
http://foray.sourceforge.net/fop/index.html

This approach allows FOray and FOP to ignore each other most of the time.
However, I obviously hope that you will check in from time to time to see
whether we have anything useful for you. Please let me know if I can help in
any way.

I will probably unsubscribe fop-dev in the next few days, so if I don't
respond here, contact me off-line or through FOray.

Victor Mote



Re: FOray integration to FOP

2004-05-21 Thread Chris Bowditch
Victor Mote wrote:
FOP Devs:
I apologize for intruding again. After thrashing around for a bit, I
No need to apologize, your input is welcome.
concluded that there were an overwhelming number of good reasons for me to
import the entire FOP maintenance branch into the FOray repository, then
delete and modify as necessary for FOray integration. One of the biggest
benefits is that it will greatly simplify any integration that FOP decides
to do with Foray. Specifically, I don't have to be in the business of trying
to coordinate such integration, and you don't have to listen to me trying to
do that. Just come get it if you want it. The good news is that I will
essentially be doing the maintenance branch integration for you -- there
shouldn't be much to do except decide whether you want it or not. I have
posted greater detail here:
http://foray.sourceforge.net/fop/index.html
This approach allows FOray and FOP to ignore each other most of the time.
However, I obviously hope that you will check in from time to time to see
whether we have anything useful for you. Please let me know if I can help in
any way.
This approach makes a lot of sense.
I will probably unsubscribe fop-dev in the next few days, so if I don't
respond here, contact me off-line or through FOray.
I will check up on FOrays progress from time to time, to see if theres 
anything that we need to do.

I wish you every success with FOray.
Chris



Re: FOray integration to FOP

2004-05-21 Thread Clay Leeds
Victor,
On May 21, 2004, at 2:53 AM, Chris Bowditch wrote:
Victor Mote wrote:
FOP Devs:
I apologize for intruding again. After thrashing around for a bit, I
No need to apologize, your input is welcome.
That goes double for me (if that's possible... :-))
concluded that there were an overwhelming number of good reasons for 
me to
import the entire FOP maintenance branch into the FOray repository, 
then
delete and modify as necessary for FOray integration. One of the 
biggest
benefits is that it will greatly simplify any integration that FOP 
decides
to do with Foray. Specifically, I don't have to be in the business of 
trying
to coordinate such integration, and you don't have to listen to me 
trying to
do that. Just come get it if you want it. The good news is that I will
essentially be doing the maintenance branch integration for you -- 
there
shouldn't be much to do except decide whether you want it or not. I 
have
posted greater detail here:
http://foray.sourceforge.net/fop/index.html
This approach allows FOray and FOP to ignore each other most of the 
time.
However, I obviously hope that you will check in from time to time to 
see
whether we have anything useful for you. Please let me know if I can 
help in
any way.
This approach makes a lot of sense.
I will probably unsubscribe fop-dev in the next few days, so if I 
don't
respond here, contact me off-line or through FOray.
I will check up on FOrays progress from time to time, to see if theres 
anything that we need to do.
As my company (and probably most others as well) is already using the 
FOP-maintain branch in production, it makes sense to check in from time 
to time, to see what FOray has cooking as well. In fact, once you get 
some usable enhancements from FOray, it might make sense for FOP to add 
FOray to the Resources Page (assuming there are no objections).

I wish you every success with FOray.
Chris
Ditto Chris's eloquence for me...
Web Maestro Clay


Re: FOray integration to FOP

2004-05-21 Thread Clay Leeds
Victor,
As you're aware, the Apache Software License 2.0 makes it more 
cumbersome to include/bundle software that is not ASL. Would you 
comment on the FOray 'license' and how it will be affected and/or 
interact with ASL?

Thanks!
Web Maestro Clay
On May 21, 2004, at 7:23 AM, Clay Leeds wrote:
Victor,
On May 21, 2004, at 2:53 AM, Chris Bowditch wrote:
Victor Mote wrote:
FOP Devs:
I apologize for intruding again. After thrashing around for a bit, I
No need to apologize, your input is welcome.
That goes double for me (if that's possible... :-))
concluded that there were an overwhelming number of good reasons for 
me to
import the entire FOP maintenance branch into the FOray repository, 
then
delete and modify as necessary for FOray integration. One of the 
biggest
benefits is that it will greatly simplify any integration that FOP 
decides
to do with Foray. Specifically, I don't have to be in the business 
of trying
to coordinate such integration, and you don't have to listen to me 
trying to
do that. Just come get it if you want it. The good news is that I 
will
essentially be doing the maintenance branch integration for you -- 
there
shouldn't be much to do except decide whether you want it or not. I 
have
posted greater detail here:
http://foray.sourceforge.net/fop/index.html
This approach allows FOray and FOP to ignore each other most of the 
time.
However, I obviously hope that you will check in from time to time 
to see
whether we have anything useful for you. Please let me know if I can 
help in
any way.
This approach makes a lot of sense.
I will probably unsubscribe fop-dev in the next few days, so if I 
don't
respond here, contact me off-line or through FOray.
I will check up on FOrays progress from time to time, to see if 
theres anything that we need to do.
As my company (and probably most others as well) is already using the 
FOP-maintain branch in production, it makes sense to check in from 
time to time, to see what FOray has cooking as well. In fact, once you 
get some usable enhancements from FOray, it might make sense for FOP 
to add FOray to the Resources Page (assuming there are no objections).

I wish you every success with FOray.
Chris
Ditto Chris's eloquence for me...
Web Maestro Clay



RE: FOray integration to FOP

2004-05-21 Thread Victor Mote
Clay Leeds wrote:

 As you're aware, the Apache Software License 2.0 makes it 
 more cumbersome to include/bundle software that is not ASL. 
 Would you comment on the FOray 'license' and how it will be 
 affected and/or interact with ASL?

FOray officially uses the Apache License 2.0. ATM, all files still have the
1.1 boilerplate.

Victor Mote



Re: FOray integration to FOP

2004-05-21 Thread Clay Leeds
Thanks for clearing this issue up.  I wanted to be sure this 
information was in the list archives.

It might be good to put this on the FOray web site (I looked for 
licensing info and didn't find any :-)).

Web Maestro Clay
On May 21, 2004, at 8:12 AM, Victor Mote wrote:
Clay Leeds wrote:
As you're aware, the Apache Software License 2.0 makes it
more cumbersome to include/bundle software that is not ASL.
Would you comment on the FOray 'license' and how it will be
affected and/or interact with ASL?
FOray officially uses the Apache License 2.0. ATM, all files still 
have the
1.1 boilerplate.

Victor Mote



RE: FOray integration to FOP

2004-05-21 Thread Victor Mote
Clay Leeds wrote:

 It might be good to put this on the FOray web site (I looked 
 for licensing info and didn't find any :-)).

Good idea. I just added it to the home page. You can also find it by
following the menu item SourceForge Project Page, which will take you
here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/foray/

Victor Mote