Re: Cleaning up bugzilla and next maintenance release

2002-04-26 Thread Christian Geisert

J.Pietschmann wrote:
 Hi committers,
 as you probably noticed, i started to rummage around in
 Bugzilla, searching for bugs still in existence and learning
 more about current and persistent problems.

Great work, I hope I can help a bit soon.

[..]

 Questions:
 Will there be another maintenance release before something comes
 out of the redesign?

Yes, why not ;-)
We already have improved logging, JAXP, background-image support,
new hyphenation patterns.

 If so, when? Roadmap?

I'd say in some weeks (don't know when batik 1.5 is ready) and
IMHO setting deadlines doesn't work very well in open source
projects where most developers do the work in their (limited)
spare time.

 If so, which should be the problems solved? Pick from above or
 add whatever you think should be added.

Top of my todo list:
-Upgrade xercex/xalan
-EBCDIC patch
-check infinite loops with tables (I think there are still problems)
-links in static content
-test with docbook stylesheets

 Further question: Is the duplicate id bug fixed in all its
 incarnations?

Example from bug #3007 works, bug #3497 still exists..
I'll put this on my todo list if no one else volunteers

 Oops: The FAQ goes along slowly, as usual. Converted to the
 FAQ-with-sections DTD referenced recently on the forrest-dev
 list.

Will this be merged with the FAQ from Alex ?

 Thanks
 J.Pietschmann

Christian


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Re: Cleaning up bugzilla and next maintenance release

2002-04-23 Thread Keiron Liddle


Thanks for doing the bugzilla stuff.

To answer some of your questions.
Yes we will need at least another release from the maintenance branch.
I have been thinking about extending the plan extension thing to produce a 
roadmap picture (like mozilla has) so we can present the information about 
releases, branches etc.
To summarize:
We need to have a release that is compatible with the batik1.5 final 
release so this is a dependancy.

A release from the redesigned code, I suggest that we aim for a dev 
release that has a minimum of most of the functionality of the maintenance 
branch.



On 2002.04.23 00:19 J.Pietschmann wrote:
 Hi committers,
 as you probably noticed, i started to rummage around in
 Bugzilla, searching for bugs still in existence and learning
 more about current and persistent problems.
snip
 I think i'll leave Bugzilla alone until the next bug summary
 next weekend.
 
 Questions:
 Will there be another maintenance release before something comes
 out of the redesign?
 If so, when? Roadmap?
 If so, which should be the problems solved? Pick from above or
 add whatever you think should be added.
 
 Further question: Is the duplicate id bug fixed in all its
 incarnations?
 
 Oops: The FAQ goes along slowly, as usual. Converted to the
 FAQ-with-sections DTD referenced recently on the forrest-dev
 list.
 
 Thanks
 J.Pietschmann

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Re: Cleaning up bugzilla and next maintenance release

2002-04-23 Thread Jeremias Maerki

Thanks for your effort to clean up BugZilla!

Just to tell you, what I'm currently working on:
- Last week I started to look into clipping. I realized it requires some
  rearranging of code in the PDF renderer. And understanding the spec in
  this regard is not that simple, either.
- You've probably read my posts about padding on fo:block. Since there
  are some work-arounds (using fo:table), I don't think this needs to be
  fixed in the branch.
- My biggest problem is lack of time. Don't know how to fix that one,
  yet. :-)

On 23.04.2002 00:19:20 J.Pietschmann wrote:
 Hi committers,
 as you probably noticed, i started to rummage around in
 Bugzilla, searching for bugs still in existence and learning
 more about current and persistent problems.
 
 Apart from the keep-* problem there are the following issues:
 - Other unimplemented or incompletely implemented elements
   and attributes. In particular:
o fo:table-and-caption because DocBook uses this
o fo:inline-container
o common properties of fo:inline
o whitespace handling attributes
o a few shorthands
 - Height/BPD of block elements other than table.
 - Padding for fo:block (and perhaps other block elements)
 - Margins for tables, if that's a bug (see recent posts)
 - Better error reporting, in particular:
o Report structure violations properly (for example don't
  drop fo:table-rows which are not children of
  fo:table-(body|header|footer) silently)
o Notify about attributes which shouldn't be there or
  are not implemented. Currently, this is horribly
  inconsistently handled.
o A few more sensible messages for attributes that are
  missing. I think, if a master-reference is missing,
  claiming it has no proper value is misleading.
 - Link hotspots. I think i have some unique bug reports
   to contribute in addition to the respectable set already
   in place :-)
 - Text loss near fo:inline and -horror!- character references!
 - Image scaling.
 Not yet in Bugzilla, i think:
 - Problems with properties of hypenated words (many
   are only applied to the last part).
 - conditional-page-master last
 - Clipping (overflow=hide or something)
 Probably further down the ToDo list:
 - Better handling of forward ref page-number-citations
(reformat line or something). Hopefully solvable locally.
 - Sensible algorithm to handle leader-length.maximum=100%,
perhaps combined with point above. Should be localised
to a line, therefore only moderatly hard. This is definitely
a must have.
 - PDF extensions, like encrypting. Perhaps integration with some
other project.
 
 I think i'll leave Bugzilla alone until the next bug summary
 next weekend.
 
 Questions:
 Will there be another maintenance release before something comes
 out of the redesign?
 If so, when? Roadmap?
 If so, which should be the problems solved? Pick from above or
 add whatever you think should be added.
 
 Further question: Is the duplicate id bug fixed in all its
 incarnations?
 
 Oops: The FAQ goes along slowly, as usual. Converted to the
 FAQ-with-sections DTD referenced recently on the forrest-dev
 list.
 
 Thanks
 J.Pietschmann
 
 
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RE: Cleaning up bugzilla and next maintenance release

2002-04-22 Thread Manuel Mall

I am not a committer nor a developer of fop (but prepared to do some work)
but mainly a user. However, here is my opinion on the matters raised.

1. I would like to see further maintenance releases on the 0.23 branch.
Valuable (to various users) updates to the last release have been posted to
this group already (background-image, logging, ...). These maintenance
releases should continue until a release candidate for the redesigned fop
becomes available and/or until user interest in this version of fop has
disappeared and/or until nobody is willing to put any more effort into it.

2. The maintenance releases should concentrate on bug fixes and enhancements
which fit easily into the current fop framework. Enhancements/bug fixes to
problems which are hard/messy to fix within the current fop architecture and
therefore were the triggers to the fop redesign effort should probably not
be attempted.

So in summary the objective would be to keep the current version alive and
well to maintain user interest and enthusiasm for the product by providing
updates and enhancements while at the same time the majority of effort
should still be directed towards the redesign to address the fundamental
problems with the current architecture.

Manuel

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Questions:
Will there be another maintenance release before something comes
out of the redesign?
If so, when? Roadmap?
If so, which should be the problems solved? Pick from above or
add whatever you think should be added.



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