RE: Dealing with fop-batik dependencies

2006-10-24 Thread Peter
I can submit that tomorrow.
A little later than expected but I faxed it today

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:32 PM
 To: 'fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org'
 Subject: RE: Dealing with fop-batik dependencies
 
  If the class is to be used by both Batik and FOP it should go into XML
  Graphics Commons [1] and but for that, Batik should start using Commons
  in the first place.
 
  [1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/
 
 Ok. So should I make commons patch (if I find out how to do that) and
 update the cmyk/icc fop patch? Note that I am not convinced the Batik gang
 will buy any of the changes that I made for cmyk/icc support. There is a
 thread on batik-dev.
 
  BTW, since you've created a substantial patch which even contains at
  least one new file, would you please sign and submit an ICLA (more info,
  see
  [2])?
 I can submit that tomorrow.
 
  And would you please try to mimic the Java style that you find in
  existing Java files in the future? You seem to be used to working with 2
  space indents. We use 4 spaces (see [3]). No need to change the current
  patch. I'll handle that. Just for future work. Thanks.
 Sorry for that (old habits die hard). I will try to remember.
 
 
  One final question: Do you expect ColorExt to be stable? If yes and you
 can submit the ICLA soon, I can see to it that it goes into the XML
 Graphics Commons 1.1 release.
 
 I have not run the Batik unit tests but will hopefully do that soon
 (biggest part will probably be to find out how they work). Perhaps
 something comes out of that and/or perhaps the Batik developers have other
 thoughts that could trigger changes. It is kind of difficult working on
 things that touch two (or three) related but independent projects for a
 beginner like me.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:13 PM
  To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Dealing with fop-batik dependencies
 
  If the class is to be used by both Batik and FOP it should go into XML
  Graphics Commons [1] and but for that, Batik should start using Commons
  in the first place.
 
  [1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/
 
  BTW, since you've created a substantial patch which even contains at
  least one new file, would you please sign and submit an ICLA (more info,
  see
  [2])? And would you please try to mimic the Java style that you find in
  existing Java files in the future? You seem to be used to working with 2
  space indents. We use 4 spaces (see [3]). No need to change the current
  patch. I'll handle that. Just for future work. Thanks.
 
  [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas
  [3] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/dev/conventions.html
 
  I hope I can look into your patch ASAP. One final question: Do you
  expect ColorExt to be stable? If yes and you can submit the ICLA soon, I
  can see to it that it goes into the XML Graphics Commons 1.1 release.
 
  On 18.10.2006 21:11:43 Peter wrote:
   Fop fans,
  
   I just added a new version of the cmyk/rgb-icc patch to
   http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40729
  
   The changes compared to the previous patch are related to the fact
 that
  in
   order to add equivalent features to batik it made more sense to
  restructure
   some things.
  
   What is not clear to me is how the dependencies between the Batik and
  Fop
   are managed.
  
   I added a ColorExt class that would also be used in a future Batik
  change. I
   therefore changed fop's build.xml to add that the class to the
  transcoder
   jar assuming Batik would eventually take it from there, but to be
  honest, I
   am far from sure that is the correct way to deal with this.
  
   Let me know if something else is needed.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Peter
 
 
 
  Jeremias Maerki



Re: Dealing with fop-batik dependencies

2006-10-18 Thread Jeremias Maerki
If the class is to be used by both Batik and FOP it should go into XML
Graphics Commons [1] and but for that, Batik should start using Commons
in the first place.

[1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/

BTW, since you've created a substantial patch which even contains at
least one new file, would you please sign and submit an ICLA (more info, see
[2])? And would you please try to mimic the Java style that you find in
existing Java files in the future? You seem to be used to working with 2
space indents. We use 4 spaces (see [3]). No need to change the current
patch. I'll handle that. Just for future work. Thanks.

[2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas
[3] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/dev/conventions.html

I hope I can look into your patch ASAP. One final question: Do you
expect ColorExt to be stable? If yes and you can submit the ICLA soon, I
can see to it that it goes into the XML Graphics Commons 1.1 release.

On 18.10.2006 21:11:43 Peter wrote:
 Fop fans,
  
 I just added a new version of the cmyk/rgb-icc patch to
 http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40729 
  
 The changes compared to the previous patch are related to the fact that in
 order to add equivalent features to batik it made more sense to restructure
 some things.
  
 What is not clear to me is how the dependencies between the Batik and Fop
 are managed. 
  
 I added a ColorExt class that would also be used in a future Batik change. I
 therefore changed fop's build.xml to add that the class to the transcoder
 jar assuming Batik would eventually take it from there, but to be honest, I
 am far from sure that is the correct way to deal with this.
  
 Let me know if something else is needed.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Peter



Jeremias Maerki



RE: Dealing with fop-batik dependencies

2006-10-18 Thread Peter
 If the class is to be used by both Batik and FOP it should go into XML
 Graphics Commons [1] and but for that, Batik should start using Commons
 in the first place.
 
 [1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/

Ok. So should I make commons patch (if I find out how to do that) and update
the cmyk/icc fop patch? Note that I am not convinced the Batik gang will buy
any of the changes that I made for cmyk/icc support. There is a thread on
batik-dev.

 BTW, since you've created a substantial patch which even contains at
 least one new file, would you please sign and submit an ICLA (more info,
 see
 [2])?
I can submit that tomorrow.

 And would you please try to mimic the Java style that you find in
 existing Java files in the future? You seem to be used to working with 2
 space indents. We use 4 spaces (see [3]). No need to change the current
 patch. I'll handle that. Just for future work. Thanks.
Sorry for that (old habits die hard). I will try to remember. 

 
 One final question: Do you expect ColorExt to be stable? If yes and you
can submit the ICLA soon, I can see to it that it goes into the XML Graphics
Commons 1.1 release.

I have not run the Batik unit tests but will hopefully do that soon (biggest
part will probably be to find out how they work). Perhaps something comes
out of that and/or perhaps the Batik developers have other thoughts that
could trigger changes. It is kind of difficult working on things that touch
two (or three) related but independent projects for a beginner like me. 


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:13 PM
 To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Dealing with fop-batik dependencies
 
 If the class is to be used by both Batik and FOP it should go into XML
 Graphics Commons [1] and but for that, Batik should start using Commons
 in the first place.
 
 [1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/
 
 BTW, since you've created a substantial patch which even contains at
 least one new file, would you please sign and submit an ICLA (more info,
 see
 [2])? And would you please try to mimic the Java style that you find in
 existing Java files in the future? You seem to be used to working with 2
 space indents. We use 4 spaces (see [3]). No need to change the current
 patch. I'll handle that. Just for future work. Thanks.
 
 [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas
 [3] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/dev/conventions.html
 
 I hope I can look into your patch ASAP. One final question: Do you
 expect ColorExt to be stable? If yes and you can submit the ICLA soon, I
 can see to it that it goes into the XML Graphics Commons 1.1 release.
 
 On 18.10.2006 21:11:43 Peter wrote:
  Fop fans,
 
  I just added a new version of the cmyk/rgb-icc patch to
  http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40729
 
  The changes compared to the previous patch are related to the fact that
 in
  order to add equivalent features to batik it made more sense to
 restructure
  some things.
 
  What is not clear to me is how the dependencies between the Batik and
 Fop
  are managed.
 
  I added a ColorExt class that would also be used in a future Batik
 change. I
  therefore changed fop's build.xml to add that the class to the
 transcoder
  jar assuming Batik would eventually take it from there, but to be
 honest, I
  am far from sure that is the correct way to deal with this.
 
  Let me know if something else is needed.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Peter
 
 
 
 Jeremias Maerki



Re: Dealing with fop-batik dependencies

2006-10-18 Thread Jeremias Maerki

On 18.10.2006 23:32:15 Peter wrote:
  If the class is to be used by both Batik and FOP it should go into XML
  Graphics Commons [1] and but for that, Batik should start using Commons
  in the first place.
  
  [1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/
 
 Ok. So should I make commons patch (if I find out how to do that) and update
 the cmyk/icc fop patch? Note that I am not convinced the Batik gang will buy
 any of the changes that I made for cmyk/icc support. There is a thread on
 batik-dev.

I haven't had time to read that part, yet. :-(

  BTW, since you've created a substantial patch which even contains at
  least one new file, would you please sign and submit an ICLA (more info,
  see
  [2])?
 I can submit that tomorrow.
 
  And would you please try to mimic the Java style that you find in
  existing Java files in the future? You seem to be used to working with 2
  space indents. We use 4 spaces (see [3]). No need to change the current
  patch. I'll handle that. Just for future work. Thanks.
 Sorry for that (old habits die hard). I will try to remember. 
 
  
  One final question: Do you expect ColorExt to be stable? If yes and you
 can submit the ICLA soon, I can see to it that it goes into the XML Graphics
 Commons 1.1 release.
 
 I have not run the Batik unit tests but will hopefully do that soon (biggest
 part will probably be to find out how they work). Perhaps something comes
 out of that and/or perhaps the Batik developers have other thoughts that
 could trigger changes. It is kind of difficult working on things that touch
 two (or three) related but independent projects for a beginner like me. 

I know. The beginning is always hard. But I think you're already doing a
good job. And you're doing something important. For example, today at
the XSL-FO 2.0 workshop the color topic also came up and we were asked
who implements everything and what the experiences are.

I'll read the thread on batik-dev first, then, so I know everything
that's going on. Hopefully some time on Friday.

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:13 PM
  To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Dealing with fop-batik dependencies
  
  If the class is to be used by both Batik and FOP it should go into XML
  Graphics Commons [1] and but for that, Batik should start using Commons
  in the first place.
  
  [1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/
  
  BTW, since you've created a substantial patch which even contains at
  least one new file, would you please sign and submit an ICLA (more info,
  see
  [2])? And would you please try to mimic the Java style that you find in
  existing Java files in the future? You seem to be used to working with 2
  space indents. We use 4 spaces (see [3]). No need to change the current
  patch. I'll handle that. Just for future work. Thanks.
  
  [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas
  [3] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/dev/conventions.html
  
  I hope I can look into your patch ASAP. One final question: Do you
  expect ColorExt to be stable? If yes and you can submit the ICLA soon, I
  can see to it that it goes into the XML Graphics Commons 1.1 release.
  
  On 18.10.2006 21:11:43 Peter wrote:
   Fop fans,
  
   I just added a new version of the cmyk/rgb-icc patch to
   http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40729
  
   The changes compared to the previous patch are related to the fact that
  in
   order to add equivalent features to batik it made more sense to
  restructure
   some things.
  
   What is not clear to me is how the dependencies between the Batik and
  Fop
   are managed.
  
   I added a ColorExt class that would also be used in a future Batik
  change. I
   therefore changed fop's build.xml to add that the class to the
  transcoder
   jar assuming Batik would eventually take it from there, but to be
  honest, I
   am far from sure that is the correct way to deal with this.
  
   Let me know if something else is needed.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Peter
  
  
  
  Jeremias Maerki



Jeremias Maerki