Re: Big Small Doubt
But I think you're mixing things here. You're talking about a HTML preview and you're talking about Excel. Is that linked together somehow? What are trying to accomplish? The clients need the same report in 3 formats : PDF HTML Excel We are doing an MIS for a leading airline. There are around 80 reports. So what we are trying to do is to reuse the same FOP code to generate HTML and Excel reports. If this is not successful, we will have to add 80+80=160 new files. :-)) So before giving them the estimate, we would like to see how much of work is left That is the intention. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Big Small Doubt
Title: RE: Big Small Doubt My friend, Please do not mix apples and oranges. You can generate XML data and from that point you can create whatever you want. My personal approach would be: - Create XML data to power your report - Create 1 XSLT for creating CSV content, 1 for HTML and 1 for XSL-FO - By using the above XSLT's now you are ready to create CSV and HTML content. Just run a simple XSLT transformation and you are done!! No need for using FOP whatsoever. - For creating your PDF version you only need to run an XSLT transformation to create XSL-FO content then you can use FOP to create PDF content based on the previously generated XSL-FO content. - If the layout of your report ever changes (but not the data to be displayed) you ONLY need to update your XSLT files instead of changing your app. Roberto -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Big Small Doubt But I think you're mixing things here. You're talking about a HTML preview and you're talking about Excel. Is that linked together somehow? What are trying to accomplish? The clients need the same report in 3 formats : PDF HTML Excel We are doing an MIS for a leading airline. There are around 80 reports. So what we are trying to do is to reuse the same FOP code to generate HTML and Excel reports. If this is not successful, we will have to add 80+80=160 new files. :-)) So before giving them the estimate, we would like to see how much of work is left That is the intention. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big Small Doubt
On 14.01.2003 04:51:13 VipinJ wrote: But I think you're mixing things here. You're talking about a HTML preview and you're talking about Excel. Is that linked together somehow? What are trying to accomplish? The clients need the same report in 3 formats : PDF HTML Excel We are doing an MIS for a leading airline. There are around 80 reports. So what we are trying to do is to reuse the same FOP code to generate HTML and Excel reports. If this is not successful, we will have to add 80+80=160 new files. :-)) I know how you must feel with this prospect. Roberto Calero is right about his observations in general, but I'd like to add a few points: - Every report you generate also has to be in Excel format. I guess that means that every report is primarily a table of data. So all 80 reports are probably more or less the same to a certain degree. What you could try is to find a common denominator on the data you have to generate the report. What I want to say is this: If you can come up with a common XML format (not XSL:FO, HTML or something like that, your own XML format) in which you can map every or most of your 80 reports, then you might be in a position where you only have to write only one single XSLT for each output format (HTML, XSL-FO and CSV/Excel). I guess you already have to do a lot of copy/paste when you create your XSLT if you haven't sorted out a common stylesheet library already. MIS report data (XML) +---+--- XSLT --- HTML +--- XSLT --- CSV (alternative 1) +--- XSLT --- Gnumeric XML --- Cocoon/POI --- XLS ¦ (alternative 2) +--- XSLT --- XSL-FO --- FOP --- PDF See here for the Cocoon/POI stuff: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/serializers/xls-serializer.html - You seem to be wanting to convert XSL-FO to Excel. I don't think this is a good idea. XSL-FO is made to define a page layout, not to generate a spreadsheet document. That's simply not what it was made for. It's better to do this before you get to XSL-FO like I suggest in the point above. So before giving them the estimate, we would like to see how much of work is left That is the intention. I hope this helps along the way. Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Big Small Doubt
Title: RE: Big Small Doubt Exactly! Moreover, you can reuse your already existing XML file. The data is not the one changing but the format for generating the report and maybe the report layout (maybe depending on the selected format) -Original Message- From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Big Small Doubt On 14.01.2003 04:51:13 VipinJ wrote: But I think you're mixing things here. You're talking about a HTML preview and you're talking about Excel. Is that linked together somehow? What are trying to accomplish? The clients need the same report in 3 formats : PDF HTML Excel We are doing an MIS for a leading airline. There are around 80 reports. So what we are trying to do is to reuse the same FOP code to generate HTML and Excel reports. If this is not successful, we will have to add 80+80=160 new files. :-)) I know how you must feel with this prospect. Roberto Calero is right about his observations in general, but I'd like to add a few points: - Every report you generate also has to be in Excel format. I guess that means that every report is primarily a table of data. So all 80 reports are probably more or less the same to a certain degree. What you could try is to find a common denominator on the data you have to generate the report. What I want to say is this: If you can come up with a common XML format (not XSL:FO, HTML or something like that, your own XML format) in which you can map every or most of your 80 reports, then you might be in a position where you only have to write only one single XSLT for each output format (HTML, XSL-FO and CSV/Excel). I guess you already have to do a lot of copy/paste when you create your XSLT if you haven't sorted out a common stylesheet library already. MIS report data (XML) +---+--- XSLT --- HTML +--- XSLT --- CSV (alternative 1) +--- XSLT --- Gnumeric XML --- Cocoon/POI --- XLS ¦ (alternative 2) +--- XSLT --- XSL-FO --- FOP --- PDF See here for the Cocoon/POI stuff: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/serializers/xls-serializer.html - You seem to be wanting to convert XSL-FO to Excel. I don't think this is a good idea. XSL-FO is made to define a page layout, not to generate a spreadsheet document. That's simply not what it was made for. It's better to do this before you get to XSL-FO like I suggest in the point above. So before giving them the estimate, we would like to see how much of work is left That is the intention. I hope this helps along the way. Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big Small Doubt
FOP doesn't support Excel output. Have a look at POI instead. Also, Cocoon can generate Excel output using POI. http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/ On 11.01.2003 09:36:44 VipinJ wrote: snip/ Also please tell me whether there is any way to generate excel output using fop. Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big Small Doubt
Hi, We went through a few sites and found that we can write a xsl style sheet defining the transformations for fop tags to html related tags. The site is : http://www.renderx.com/fo2html.html They say we can create html output from FOP. I am going to try that out. If that is successful, cant we do the following to get excel?? response.setContentType(application/vnd.ms-excel); Is it possible?? Please advice Warm Regards, Vipin. Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] enmail.ch cc: Subject: Re: Big Small Doubt 01/13/03 03:20 PM Please respond to fop-user FOP doesn't support Excel output. Have a look at POI instead. Also, Cocoon can generate Excel output using POI. http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/ On 11.01.2003 09:36:44 VipinJ wrote: snip/ Also please tell me whether there is any way to generate excel output using fop. Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big Small Doubt
On 13.01.2003 12:36:03 VipinJ wrote: We went through a few sites and found that we can write a xsl style sheet defining the transformations for fop tags to html related tags. The site is : http://www.renderx.com/fo2html.html They say we can create html output from FOP. I am going to try that out. That stylesheet has nothing to do with FOP. It's just plain XSLT. But I guess, it will do what you need. If that is successful, cant we do the following to get excel?? response.setContentType(application/vnd.ms-excel); You can try, but I don't think you will succeed. The MIME type you mention specifies an Excel document. Sending HTML to Excel will probably result in garbage. Sending CSV as Stephan advised has a slightly higher chance of success. But I think you're mixing things here. You're talking about a HTML preview and you're talking about Excel. Is that linked together somehow? What are trying to accomplish? Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big Small Doubt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We have already done pdf reports using fo. And we have delivered. Now the clients need html preview and the pdf to be sent by email (For low band width clients)... Is there any way that we can reuse the code for pdf to generate html or do we need to write html FO can be transformed to HTML, I haven't done that myself though. Might be more effcient to directly transform your XML to HTML, though. Also please tell me whether there is any way to generate excel output using fop. You can generate CSV files quite easily with an XSLT style. Depending on your XML sources, of course. Again, this should be much more efficient than generating FO and transforming that, especially, because you don't need any formating informations for the excel tables. Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
