merging two libraries
Hello all, I'm not familiar with FOP, but I can't help noticing that people are moving from FOP to iText and vice versa. As original developer of iText, a JAVA-PDF library, I already proposed you guys at Apache twice to join forces and to combine both libraries. I now subscribe to this mailing list only to ask you a third time to reconsider your refusal. Please read these mails from some iText/FOP users: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/8175/0/8071577/ http://www.mail-archive.com/itext-questions%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg00491 .html Please send your answers to the iText mailing list. You don't need to subscribe, I will pass them through. Remark: sorry, but due to the lack of time to read all my mail as it is, I will now unsubscribe from the FOP mailing list. kind regards, Bruno Lowagie
Re: merging two libraries
Hi, From the archives it appears that the discussion on the fop-dev list was about 2 years ago (no apparent refusal though). It is certainly time to revisit. From the small amount of information I know about iText it would appear to be a more advanced pdf library. I don't know what the license issues might be. What sort of joining forces are you proposing? Please send to the fop-dev list for further discussion. Regards, Keiron. On 2002.03.12 09:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm not familiar with FOP, but I can't help noticing that people are moving from FOP to iText and vice versa. As original developer of iText, a JAVA-PDF library, I already proposed you guys at Apache twice to join forces and to combine both libraries. I now subscribe to this mailing list only to ask you a third time to reconsider your refusal. Please read these mails from some iText/FOP users: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/8175/0/8071577/ http://www.mail-archive.com/itext-questions%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg00491 .html Please send your answers to the iText mailing list. You don't need to subscribe, I will pass them through. Remark: sorry, but due to the lack of time to read all my mail as it is, I will now unsubscribe from the FOP mailing list. kind regards, Bruno Lowagie
FW: [iText-questions] Re: merging two libraries
My suggestion was *not* to merge the two! iText is a Java API with a document creation focus. In this day and age, XSL:FO can be viewed as just another document type - in the same way that more proprietary or older formats are (that is, PDF, RTF, etc.). Now XSL:FO is different in that you can't just double click on one and see something. But the FOP project comes close. Making iText (optionally) output xsl:fo would greatly extend its potential applications and make it squarely standards based. I would like to think that someday, StarOffice, Wordperfect, etc. would either natively use xsl:fo as their file storage format or at least be able to import it. Having something like iText that *programatically* create documents is very exciting! -Original Message- From: Keiron Liddle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: fop-dev@xml.apache.org; itext-questions@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [iText-questions] Re: merging two libraries Hi, From the archives it appears that the discussion on the fop-dev list was about 2 years ago (no apparent refusal though). It is certainly time to revisit. From the small amount of information I know about iText it would appear to be a more advanced pdf library. I don't know what the license issues might be. What sort of joining forces are you proposing? Please send to the fop-dev list for further discussion. Regards, Keiron. On 2002.03.12 09:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm not familiar with FOP, but I can't help noticing that people are moving from FOP to iText and vice versa. As original developer of iText, a JAVA-PDF library, I already proposed you guys at Apache twice to join forces and to combine both libraries. I now subscribe to this mailing list only to ask you a third time to reconsider your refusal. Please read these mails from some iText/FOP users: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/8175/0/8071577/ http://www.mail-archive.com/itext-questions%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg00491 .html Please send your answers to the iText mailing list. You don't need to subscribe, I will pass them through. Remark: sorry, but due to the lack of time to read all my mail as it is, I will now unsubscribe from the FOP mailing list. kind regards, Bruno Lowagie ___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions
Re: [iText-questions] Re: merging two libraries
From: New, Cecil (GEAE) [EMAIL PROTECTED] My suggestion was *not* to merge the two! iText is a Java API with a document creation focus. In this day and age, XSL:FO can be viewed as just another document type - in the same way that more proprietary or older formats are (that is, PDF, RTF, etc.). Sorry if it's a bit off-topic, but this issue is similar to the one we just managed to handle between POI (http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/) and Cocoon (http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/). POI is a project that makes it possible to read-write common office file formats in Java. Cocoon is an XML processing framework-server. The POI team donated a Cocoon component that uses POI and outputs XML, but on the Cocoon side, committers saw too much POI code in it. Basically we understood that a project to read-write a file format should have a solid Java API. Other projects can use it to produce other results. Merging is not the best solution, both for developers and users.
Re: merging two libraries
At 08:27 12/03/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm not familiar with FOP, but I can't help noticing that people are moving from FOP to iText and vice versa. As original developer of iText, a JAVA-PDF library, I already proposed you guys at Apache twice to join forces and to combine both libraries. I now subscribe to this mailing list only to ask you a third time to reconsider your refusal. Bruno - Relax! Your antagonistic attitude does you no service. I've been trying to look after the FOP FAQ for nearly a year now and although I was aware of your software I had no knowledge that you were interested in joining forces. Please learn a bit more about how Apache developers work. You can start off by joining the fop-dev mailing list which is of course better than the fop-user list for contacting the fop developers. Remark: sorry, but due to the lack of time to read all my mail as it is, I will now unsubscribe from the FOP mailing list. Bruno - do you know how rude this is? You want to join forces but you wont even stay subscribed to the mailing list? My comments are my own and do not reflect the FOP software developers. Alex McLintock