Re: Upgrade to fop trunk and URI resolving

2012-07-30 Thread mehdi houshmand
Hi Jeremias,

I'm sorry for the slow response, I will look at this when I get the chance
to do so and get back to you. I would like to come to some sort of
compromise on this, one where we're both happy with the acquisition of
resources. Failing that, at least come to an agreement where neither of us
are particularly happy but begrudgingly accept with a healthy amount of
resentment ;)

Mehdi

On 26 July 2012 22:31, Jeremias Maerki d...@jeremias-maerki.ch wrote:

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 Jeremias Maerki


 On 26.07.2012 20:17:17 mehdi houshmand wrote:
  I appreciate that there are inconveniences, but if you're just looking
 for
  backwards compatibility, the changes should be, for the most part, fairly
  minor.
 
  I'm sorry we haven't been able to convince you of the benefits of the
  changes, that's on me as the lead on this. I'm not sure really what else
 I
  can do to convince you, if you have specific concerns that we could
 address
  then I'd be happy to see if we can come to some sort of compromise. You
  talk about a java.xml.transform.URIResolver interface, are there any
 other
  things you'd like to see?
 
  On 26 July 2012 17:15, Jeremias Maerki d...@jeremias-maerki.ch wrote:
 
   That's not quite true. That worked perfectly before by setting your own
   JAXP URIResolver. You could even resolve a URI to a DOMSource (or
   SAXSource) containing an SVG image that you've dynamically built based
   on some data (think charts). With the new approach, you have to
   serialize that XML to a stream (buffered in memory or on disk) which
   costs performance. Not a very common use case, I know, but we're
 talking
   possibilities that are going away with the API changes.
  
   Previously, you could use Apache XML Commons Resolver for XML catalog
   functionality. Now you probably have to write an adapter from
   URIResolver to ResourceResolver (haven't had time to try that, yet). A
   convenience adapter is missing.
  
  
   Jeremias Maerki
  
  
   On 25.07.2012 22:25:52 Matthias Reischenbacher wrote:
   snip/
Btw... it's really nice that all data is loaded now through the new
 URI
resolver. In the near future I'd like to use a custom scheme (e.g.
myscheme://imageid) in order to load images instead of using HTTP.
 That
wouldn't be possible without your change. So thanks!
   snip/
  
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Re: Upgrade to fop trunk and URI resolving

2012-07-30 Thread mehdi houshmand
Jeremias,

I was looking into this, and it became abundantly clear that I don't really
know what you're trying to do with the java.xml.transform.URIResolver...
Would something like this be appropriate as an adapter between the two
interfaces? (The exception handling is pretty slap-dash). I don't have a
great deal of experience with these XML libraries other than the fairly
basic use-cases.

I appreciate that the DOMSource serialization would be performance costly,
but we already knew that...

Mehdi

On 30 July 2012 08:52, mehdi houshmand med1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jeremias,

 I'm sorry for the slow response, I will look at this when I get the chance
 to do so and get back to you. I would like to come to some sort of
 compromise on this, one where we're both happy with the acquisition of
 resources. Failing that, at least come to an agreement where neither of us
 are particularly happy but begrudgingly accept with a healthy amount of
 resentment ;)

 Mehdi


 On 26 July 2012 22:31, Jeremias Maerki d...@jeremias-maerki.ch wrote:

 (responded on fop-dev)


 Jeremias Maerki


 On 26.07.2012 20:17:17 mehdi houshmand wrote:
  I appreciate that there are inconveniences, but if you're just looking
 for
  backwards compatibility, the changes should be, for the most part,
 fairly
  minor.
 
  I'm sorry we haven't been able to convince you of the benefits of the
  changes, that's on me as the lead on this. I'm not sure really what
 else I
  can do to convince you, if you have specific concerns that we could
 address
  then I'd be happy to see if we can come to some sort of compromise. You
  talk about a java.xml.transform.URIResolver interface, are there any
 other
  things you'd like to see?
 
  On 26 July 2012 17:15, Jeremias Maerki d...@jeremias-maerki.ch wrote:
 
   That's not quite true. That worked perfectly before by setting your
 own
   JAXP URIResolver. You could even resolve a URI to a DOMSource (or
   SAXSource) containing an SVG image that you've dynamically built based
   on some data (think charts). With the new approach, you have to
   serialize that XML to a stream (buffered in memory or on disk) which
   costs performance. Not a very common use case, I know, but we're
 talking
   possibilities that are going away with the API changes.
  
   Previously, you could use Apache XML Commons Resolver for XML catalog
   functionality. Now you probably have to write an adapter from
   URIResolver to ResourceResolver (haven't had time to try that, yet). A
   convenience adapter is missing.
  
  
   Jeremias Maerki
  
  
   On 25.07.2012 22:25:52 Matthias Reischenbacher wrote:
   snip/
Btw... it's really nice that all data is loaded now through the new
 URI
resolver. In the near future I'd like to use a custom scheme (e.g.
myscheme://imageid) in order to load images instead of using HTTP.
 That
wouldn't be possible without your change. So thanks!
   snip/
  
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Re: Upgrade to fop trunk and URI resolving

2012-07-30 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Hi Mehdi,
that adapter is the beginning of that convenience adapter I was talking
about. But there are a few issues with it (without having tried to run
the code):
- a StreamSource does not always have an InputStream. Apache XML Commons
Resolver usually returns a StreamSource with just the resolved URL set
as the system ID if I remember correctly. The URL has to be opened via
java.net.URL.
- SAXSource will also need to be handled aside from DOMSource.
- a Source cannot be a StreamResult, so you can't use URIResolver for
URLs that will be written to. URIResolver is strictly on the reading
side.
- TransformerExceptions should probably be re-thrown as
IOException(WithCause) rather than RuntimeException.

At any rate, I'd like to point you to 
http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/HowTo/XmlCommonsResolver
which contains a working example for using XML catalogs with FOP. I
believe that this is something that more than a handful of people are
using in production so it would be great if this functionality remains
available, even if it's just through that URIResolverAdapter.

The performance loss with DOMSource/SAXSource, I can probably stomach,
but I'm only speaking for myself. But I beg you not to replace
URIResolver by ResourceResolver in the XGC Image Loading Framework. If
your goal is to better control where files are written by FOP, that's
one thing, or not wanting to deal with StreamSource's many accessors
when just loading a font which always requires an InputStream, that's
another. But URIResolver is just more powerful when it comes to provide
read-access to resources that may be a byte stream, character stream,
XML DOM, SAX event source like is the case with images.

Thanks,
Jeremias Maerki


On 30.07.2012 13:02:41 mehdi houshmand wrote:
 Jeremias,
 
 I was looking into this, and it became abundantly clear that I don't really
 know what you're trying to do with the java.xml.transform.URIResolver...
 Would something like this be appropriate as an adapter between the two
 interfaces? (The exception handling is pretty slap-dash). I don't have a
 great deal of experience with these XML libraries other than the fairly
 basic use-cases.
 
 I appreciate that the DOMSource serialization would be performance costly,
 but we already knew that...
 
 Mehdi
 
 On 30 July 2012 08:52, mehdi houshmand med1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Jeremias,
 
  I'm sorry for the slow response, I will look at this when I get the chance
  to do so and get back to you. I would like to come to some sort of
  compromise on this, one where we're both happy with the acquisition of
  resources. Failing that, at least come to an agreement where neither of us
  are particularly happy but begrudgingly accept with a healthy amount of
  resentment ;)
 
  Mehdi
 
 
  On 26 July 2012 22:31, Jeremias Maerki d...@jeremias-maerki.ch wrote:
 
  (responded on fop-dev)
 
 
  Jeremias Maerki
 
 
  On 26.07.2012 20:17:17 mehdi houshmand wrote:
   I appreciate that there are inconveniences, but if you're just looking
  for
   backwards compatibility, the changes should be, for the most part,
  fairly
   minor.
  
   I'm sorry we haven't been able to convince you of the benefits of the
   changes, that's on me as the lead on this. I'm not sure really what
  else I
   can do to convince you, if you have specific concerns that we could
  address
   then I'd be happy to see if we can come to some sort of compromise. You
   talk about a java.xml.transform.URIResolver interface, are there any
  other
   things you'd like to see?
  
   On 26 July 2012 17:15, Jeremias Maerki d...@jeremias-maerki.ch wrote:
  
That's not quite true. That worked perfectly before by setting your
  own
JAXP URIResolver. You could even resolve a URI to a DOMSource (or
SAXSource) containing an SVG image that you've dynamically built based
on some data (think charts). With the new approach, you have to
serialize that XML to a stream (buffered in memory or on disk) which
costs performance. Not a very common use case, I know, but we're
  talking
possibilities that are going away with the API changes.
   
Previously, you could use Apache XML Commons Resolver for XML catalog
functionality. Now you probably have to write an adapter from
URIResolver to ResourceResolver (haven't had time to try that, yet). A
convenience adapter is missing.
   
   
Jeremias Maerki
   
   
On 25.07.2012 22:25:52 Matthias Reischenbacher wrote:
snip/
 Btw... it's really nice that all data is loaded now through the new
  URI
 resolver. In the near future I'd like to use a custom scheme (e.g.
 myscheme://imageid) in order to load images instead of using HTTP.
  That
 wouldn't be possible without your change. So thanks!
snip/
   
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Force Page Break in fo:list-item

2012-07-30 Thread Bonekrusher
Hi all,

I am using FOP 1.0 and 0.95. How can I force a Page Break in a fo:list-item?
I've tried break-before which drops the content and keep-with-next on the
list-block or list-item. Neither work.

Thx




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Re: Force Page Break in fo:list-item

2012-07-30 Thread Luis Bernardo


You probably need to upgrade to trunk.

I know this works in trunk:

list-block
list-item
.
/list-item
list-item break-before=page
list-item-labellabel/list-item-label
list-item-bodybody/list-item-body
/list-item
/list-block

and it also works if you put the break inside the body.

if you are stuck with 1.0 and it doesn't work you can always create two 
lists and put the break in between.


On 7/30/12 11:50 PM, Bonekrusher wrote:

Hi all,

I am using FOP 1.0 and 0.95. How can I force a Page Break in a fo:list-item?
I've tried break-before which drops the content and keep-with-next on the
list-block or list-item. Neither work.

Thx




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