Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-06-07 Thread Pascal Sancho 

Christian,

Le 07/06/2012 15:16, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

You say "the best approach is to directly specify font-family with "Arial"
in both XSL-FO and SVG, and set FOP font configuration in that approach"

My purpose is : I would like to not have fop error in PDF-A if I use a
font-family (like font "Tartanpion") in SVG-text that don't exist in Windows
fonts.

This is not possible:
 - PDF/A require to embed used fonts;
 - Batik uses system fonts to render text in SVG.

So, when you want to generate a PDF/A from data containing text in SVG, 
the only solution you have is to ensure that used fonts are available in 
both FOP config and host system fonts.


I see 2 alternatives if you don't want to install any font on your system:
 - vectorize text in SVG (some tools like AI have this feature);
 - remove all text from SVG and put it directly in a fo:block that 
comes over your SVG.



I have forgotten to say that in the case 3, I use PDF-A renderer; I'm sorry.
Case 2 and case 3 have same fo file and same fop.config.
Case 2 use PDF renderer with sucess result
Case 3 use PDF-A renderer with failed result
My opinion is that there is no link between batik substitution and fop
substitution.
Could you please try my sample in PDF-A ?

-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:28 AM

Hi,
If you explicitly substitute Helvetica with Arial in FOP config for PDF,
you have to ensure that no references to Helvetica remains in final PDF.
IMHO, the best approach is to directly specify font-family with "Arial"
in both XSL-FO and SVG, and set FOP font configuration in that approach.

Another option: You can check if remaining that font substitution will
work if you change only your SVG to use explicitly Arial: I've not
tested that.

Le 06/06/2012 18:02, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

In PDF mode, in a text in SVG image (SVG-text) use batik/AWT for rendering
and AWT use directly Windows fonts directory.
so, the fop.config seems ignored by batik.

Case 1 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Verdana" or "Georgia" and that this
fonts exist in Windows fonts dir, pdf is well rendered with Verdana or
Geogia fonts embeded.

Case 2 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Tartanpion", and if this font don't
exist in Windows dir, batik substitute "Tartanpion" by "Helvetica", pdf is
well rendered with Helvetica font.

Case 3 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Tartanpion", and if this font don't
exist in Windows dir, batik substitute "Tartanpion" by "Helvetica", pdf is
not rendered because a Fop Error occurs :
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica
I have the font Helvetica in my fop.config but this seems ignored.

  


How Fop link with the substituted AWT font Helvetica ?

-Message d'origine-
From: Christian Pestel
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:27 PM

Pascal,

Nevertheless, it's work in PDF/A mode !

With PDF/A renderer mode, and without "any" font in config.xml =>   FOP
fail
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

With PDF/A renderer mode, and with "any" font in config.xml =>   FOP don't
fail

but this workarround don't seem to work with SVG font.

-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:03 PM

Christian,

"any" is not a font per se, it just indicates that default font is used
(FOP uses Helvetica, and PDF viewer replace it with Arial on Win system,
I don't know about Batik default font).

PDF/A-1b requires to embed *all* used fonts, so you must specify all of
them in FOP config file.
You can give whatever font name you want, but you have to ensure that it
is the same in both system fonts (since used by batik) and in config file.

Le 31/05/2012 11:29, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Effectively, I forgot to change Verdana-Bold to Verdana in
Image1_Verdana.SVG.
Now it's work.
Thank you for your help.

However, my question is how to configure Fop PDF/A config.xml for SVG
image
whose svg font is not present in Fop config.xml (?

1/ Simple fo without SVG image

For simple fo:inline which use for example font-family="BlueHighway" and
no
font "BlueHighway" in config.xml,

With PDF renderer mode, FOP warn only but not fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".

With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

A workarround of PDF/A fail consist to add the font "any" in config.xml

Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-06-07 Thread Christian Pestel 

Hi Pascal,

You say "the best approach is to directly specify font-family with "Arial"
in both XSL-FO and SVG, and set FOP font configuration in that approach"

My purpose is : I would like to not have fop error in PDF-A if I use a 
font-family (like font "Tartanpion") in SVG-text that don't exist in Windows 
fonts.

I have forgotten to say that in the case 3, I use PDF-A renderer; I'm sorry.
Case 2 and case 3 have same fo file and same fop.config.
Case 2 use PDF renderer with sucess result
Case 3 use PDF-A renderer with failed result
My opinion is that there is no link between batik substitution and fop 
substitution.

Could you please try my sample in PDF-A ?

Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine- 
From: Pascal Sancho

Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:28 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi,
If you explicitly substitute Helvetica with Arial in FOP config for PDF,
you have to ensure that no references to Helvetica remains in final PDF.
IMHO, the best approach is to directly specify font-family with "Arial"
in both XSL-FO and SVG, and set FOP font configuration in that approach.

Another option: You can check if remaining that font substitution will
work if you change only your SVG to use explicitly Arial: I've not
tested that.

Le 06/06/2012 18:02, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

In PDF mode, in a text in SVG image (SVG-text) use batik/AWT for rendering
and AWT use directly Windows fonts directory.
so, the fop.config seems ignored by batik.

Case 1 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Verdana" or "Georgia" and that this
fonts exist in Windows fonts dir, pdf is well rendered with Verdana or
Geogia fonts embeded.

Case 2 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Tartanpion", and if this font don't
exist in Windows dir, batik substitute "Tartanpion" by "Helvetica", pdf is
well rendered with Helvetica font.

Case 3 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Tartanpion", and if this font don't
exist in Windows dir, batik substitute "Tartanpion" by "Helvetica", pdf is
not rendered because a Fop Error occurs :
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica
I have the font Helvetica in my fop.config but this seems ignored.

 


How Fop link with the substituted AWT font Helvetica ?

-Message d'origine-
From: Christian Pestel
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:27 PM

Pascal,

Nevertheless, it's work in PDF/A mode !

With PDF/A renderer mode, and without "any" font in config.xml =>  FOP 
fail

org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

With PDF/A renderer mode, and with "any" font in config.xml =>  FOP don't
fail

but this workarround don't seem to work with SVG font.

-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:03 PM

Christian,

"any" is not a font per se, it just indicates that default font is used
(FOP uses Helvetica, and PDF viewer replace it with Arial on Win system,
I don't know about Batik default font).

PDF/A-1b requires to embed *all* used fonts, so you must specify all of
them in FOP config file.
You can give whatever font name you want, but you have to ensure that it
is the same in both system fonts (since used by batik) and in config file.

Le 31/05/2012 11:29, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Effectively, I forgot to change Verdana-Bold to Verdana in
Image1_Verdana.SVG.
Now it's work.
Thank you for your help.

However, my question is how to configure Fop PDF/A config.xml for SVG
image
whose svg font is not present in Fop config.xml (?

1/ Simple fo without SVG image

For simple fo:inline which use for example font-family="BlueHighway" and
no
font "BlueHighway" in config.xml,

With PDF renderer mode, FOP warn only but not fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".

With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

A workarround of PDF/A fail consist to add the font "any" in config.xml


  kerning="no"

embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMES.ttf">
  weight="normal"/>

  
  
  
  
  kerning="no"

embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMESI.ttf">
  weight="normal&qu

Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-06-07 Thread Pascal Sancho 

Hi,
If you explicitly substitute Helvetica with Arial in FOP config for PDF, 
you have to ensure that no references to Helvetica remains in final PDF.
IMHO, the best approach is to directly specify font-family with "Arial" 
in both XSL-FO and SVG, and set FOP font configuration in that approach.


Another option: You can check if remaining that font substitution will 
work if you change only your SVG to use explicitly Arial: I've not 
tested that.


Le 06/06/2012 18:02, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

In PDF mode, in a text in SVG image (SVG-text) use batik/AWT for rendering
and AWT use directly Windows fonts directory.
so, the fop.config seems ignored by batik.

Case 1 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Verdana" or "Georgia" and that this
fonts exist in Windows fonts dir, pdf is well rendered with Verdana or
Geogia fonts embeded.

Case 2 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Tartanpion", and if this font don't
exist in Windows dir, batik substitute "Tartanpion" by "Helvetica", pdf is
well rendered with Helvetica font.

Case 3 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Tartanpion", and if this font don't
exist in Windows dir, batik substitute "Tartanpion" by "Helvetica", pdf is
not rendered because a Fop Error occurs :
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica
I have the font Helvetica in my fop.config but this seems ignored.

 


How Fop link with the substituted AWT font Helvetica ?

-Message d'origine-
From: Christian Pestel
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:27 PM

Pascal,

Nevertheless, it's work in PDF/A mode !

With PDF/A renderer mode, and without "any" font in config.xml =>  FOP fail
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

With PDF/A renderer mode, and with "any" font in config.xml =>  FOP don't
fail

but this workarround don't seem to work with SVG font.

-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:03 PM

Christian,

"any" is not a font per se, it just indicates that default font is used
(FOP uses Helvetica, and PDF viewer replace it with Arial on Win system,
I don't know about Batik default font).

PDF/A-1b requires to embed *all* used fonts, so you must specify all of
them in FOP config file.
You can give whatever font name you want, but you have to ensure that it
is the same in both system fonts (since used by batik) and in config file.

Le 31/05/2012 11:29, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Effectively, I forgot to change Verdana-Bold to Verdana in
Image1_Verdana.SVG.
Now it's work.
Thank you for your help.

However, my question is how to configure Fop PDF/A config.xml for SVG
image
whose svg font is not present in Fop config.xml (?

1/ Simple fo without SVG image

For simple fo:inline which use for example font-family="BlueHighway" and
no
font "BlueHighway" in config.xml,

With PDF renderer mode, FOP warn only but not fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".

With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

A workarround of PDF/A fail consist to add the font "any" in config.xml


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

2/ fo with SVG image
With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail, when the svg font is not present in
config.xml ( "BlueHighway" for example )
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica

and the "any" font seems not to be used in this context.

Is there a solution ?
Thank.

-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:39 AM

Hi Christian,

in your svg [Image1_Verdana.SVG], I read:
font-family="'Verdana-Bold'"
witch is not a regular font-name.

You should use the font-weight property:
font-family="'Verdana'" font-weight="bold"

that gives for me expected result.

Note that since Verdena-bold is not found, FOP uses the default font (ie
Helvetica), that explains why you get a PDF with Helvetica (not embedded).

Le 31/05/2012 00:42, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Thank for your explanation, but I don't understand.
For explain my problem, I send you some couple of fo/pdfA examples with
pdf
content not zipped.
I use Fop trunk May 07 2012

1/ The following example work fine :
MODELE_TEXTE_Verdana.fo110a.xml
   
 
   HELLO
   

Pdf is ok : the font Verdana is  embeded in pdf/A

2/ The following example work also fine :
MODELE_IMAGES_SVG_Times.fo110a.xml

Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-06-06 Thread Christian Pestel 

Hi Pascal,

In PDF mode, in a text in SVG image (SVG-text) use batik/AWT for rendering 
and AWT use directly Windows fonts directory.

so, the fop.config seems ignored by batik.

Case 1 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Verdana" or "Georgia" and that this 
fonts exist in Windows fonts dir, pdf is well rendered with Verdana or 
Geogia fonts embeded.


Case 2 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Tartanpion", and if this font don't 
exist in Windows dir, batik substitute "Tartanpion" by "Helvetica", pdf is 
well rendered with Helvetica font.


Case 3 /
If in a SVG-text I use font-family "Tartanpion", and if this font don't 
exist in Windows dir, batik substitute "Tartanpion" by "Helvetica", pdf is 
not rendered because a Fop Error occurs :

org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica
I have the font Helvetica in my fop.config but this seems ignored.
kerning="yes" embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/Arial.ttf">

   


How Fop link with the substituted AWT font Helvetica ?


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine- 
From: Christian Pestel

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:27 PM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Pascal,

Nevertheless, it's work in PDF/A mode !

With PDF/A renderer mode, and without "any" font in config.xml => FOP fail
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

With PDF/A renderer mode, and with "any" font in config.xml => FOP don't
fail

but this workarround don't seem to work with SVG font.

Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine----- 
From: Pascal Sancho

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:03 PM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Christian,

"any" is not a font per se, it just indicates that default font is used
(FOP uses Helvetica, and PDF viewer replace it with Arial on Win system,
I don't know about Batik default font).

PDF/A-1b requires to embed *all* used fonts, so you must specify all of
them in FOP config file.
You can give whatever font name you want, but you have to ensure that it
is the same in both system fonts (since used by batik) and in config file.

Le 31/05/2012 11:29, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Effectively, I forgot to change Verdana-Bold to Verdana in
Image1_Verdana.SVG.
Now it's work.
Thank you for your help.

However, my question is how to configure Fop PDF/A config.xml for SVG 
image

whose svg font is not present in Fop config.xml (?

1/ Simple fo without SVG image

For simple fo:inline which use for example font-family="BlueHighway" and 
no

font "BlueHighway" in config.xml,

With PDF renderer mode, FOP warn only but not fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".

With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

A workarround of PDF/A fail consist to add the font "any" in config.xml


 
 
 
 kerning="no"

embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMESBD.ttf">
 
 
 
 
 
 kerning="no"

embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMESBI.ttf">
 
 

2/ fo with SVG image
With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail, when the svg font is not present in
config.xml ( "BlueHighway" for example )
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica

and the "any" font seems not to be used in this context.

Is there a solution ?
Thank.


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:39 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi Christian,

in your svg [Image1_Verdana.SVG], I read:
   font-family="'Verdana-Bold'"
witch is not a regular font-name.

You should use the font-weight property:
   font-family="'Verdana'" font-weight="bold"

that gives for me expected result.

Note that since Verdena-bold is not found, FOP uses the default font (ie
Helvetica), that explains why you get a PDF with Helvetica (not embedded).

Le 31/05/2012 0

Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-05-31 Thread Christian Pestel 

Pascal,

Nevertheless, it's work in PDF/A mode !

With PDF/A renderer mode, and without "any" font in config.xml => FOP fail
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even 
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman


With PDF/A renderer mode, and with "any" font in config.xml => FOP don't 
fail


but this workarround don't seem to work with SVG font.

Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine- 
From: Pascal Sancho

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:03 PM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Christian,

"any" is not a font per se, it just indicates that default font is used
(FOP uses Helvetica, and PDF viewer replace it with Arial on Win system,
I don't know about Batik default font).

PDF/A-1b requires to embed *all* used fonts, so you must specify all of
them in FOP config file.
You can give whatever font name you want, but you have to ensure that it
is the same in both system fonts (since used by batik) and in config file.

Le 31/05/2012 11:29, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Effectively, I forgot to change Verdana-Bold to Verdana in
Image1_Verdana.SVG.
Now it's work.
Thank you for your help.

However, my question is how to configure Fop PDF/A config.xml for SVG 
image

whose svg font is not present in Fop config.xml (?

1/ Simple fo without SVG image

For simple fo:inline which use for example font-family="BlueHighway" and 
no

font "BlueHighway" in config.xml,

With PDF renderer mode, FOP warn only but not fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".

With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

A workarround of PDF/A fail consist to add the font "any" in config.xml


 
 
 
 kerning="no"

embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMESBD.ttf">
 
 
 
 
 
 kerning="no"

embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMESBI.ttf">
 
 

2/ fo with SVG image
With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail, when the svg font is not present in
config.xml ( "BlueHighway" for example )
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica

and the "any" font seems not to be used in this context.

Is there a solution ?
Thank.


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:39 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi Christian,

in your svg [Image1_Verdana.SVG], I read:
   font-family="'Verdana-Bold'"
witch is not a regular font-name.

You should use the font-weight property:
   font-family="'Verdana'" font-weight="bold"

that gives for me expected result.

Note that since Verdena-bold is not found, FOP uses the default font (ie
Helvetica), that explains why you get a PDF with Helvetica (not embedded).

Le 31/05/2012 00:42, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Thank for your explanation, but I don't understand.
For explain my problem, I send you some couple of fo/pdfA examples with
pdf
content not zipped.
I use Fop trunk May 07 2012

1/ The following example work fine :
MODELE_TEXTE_Verdana.fo110a.xml
  

  HELLO
  

Pdf is ok : the font Verdana is  embeded in pdf/A

2/ The following example work also fine :
MODELE_IMAGES_SVG_Times.fo110a.xml


  
width="10.78cm" content-height="scale-to-fit" 
content-width="scale-to-fit"

scaling="non-uniform">
  



Pdf is ok : the font TimesNewRoman is referenced in pdf/A

Here partial extract content of Image1_Times.SVG
VOTRE BILAN ASSURANCES

3/ The following example don't work  :
MODELE_IMAGES_SVG_Verdana.fo110a.xml


  
width="10.78cm" content-height="scale-to-fit" 
content-width="scale-to-fit"

scaling="non-uniform">
  



Here partial extract content of Image1_Verdana.SVG
VOTRE BILAN ASSURANCES

Pdf is ko : the font Helvetiva is referenced in pdf/A instead of Verdana.
Why ?
May be some pb with  Batik ?


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:13 PM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica wit

Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-05-31 Thread Pascal Sancho 

Christian,

"any" is not a font per se, it just indicates that default font is used 
(FOP uses Helvetica, and PDF viewer replace it with Arial on Win system, 
I don't know about Batik default font).


PDF/A-1b requires to embed *all* used fonts, so you must specify all of 
them in FOP config file.
You can give whatever font name you want, but you have to ensure that it 
is the same in both system fonts (since used by batik) and in config file.


Le 31/05/2012 11:29, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Effectively, I forgot to change Verdana-Bold to Verdana in
Image1_Verdana.SVG.
Now it's work.
Thank you for your help.

However, my question is how to configure Fop PDF/A config.xml for SVG image
whose svg font is not present in Fop config.xml (?

1/ Simple fo without SVG image

For simple fo:inline which use for example font-family="BlueHighway" and no
font "BlueHighway" in config.xml,

With PDF renderer mode, FOP warn only but not fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".

With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with
"any,normal,400".
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman

A workarround of PDF/A fail consist to add the font "any" in config.xml


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

2/ fo with SVG image
With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail, when the svg font is not present in
config.xml ( "BlueHighway" for example )
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica

and the "any" font seems not to be used in this context.

Is there a solution ?
Thank.


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:39 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi Christian,

in your svg [Image1_Verdana.SVG], I read:
   font-family="'Verdana-Bold'"
witch is not a regular font-name.

You should use the font-weight property:
   font-family="'Verdana'" font-weight="bold"

that gives for me expected result.

Note that since Verdena-bold is not found, FOP uses the default font (ie
Helvetica), that explains why you get a PDF with Helvetica (not embedded).

Le 31/05/2012 00:42, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Thank for your explanation, but I don't understand.
For explain my problem, I send you some couple of fo/pdfA examples with
pdf
content not zipped.
I use Fop trunk May 07 2012

1/ The following example work fine :
MODELE_TEXTE_Verdana.fo110a.xml
  

  HELLO
  

Pdf is ok : the font Verdana is  embeded in pdf/A

2/ The following example work also fine :
MODELE_IMAGES_SVG_Times.fo110a.xml


  

  



Pdf is ok : the font TimesNewRoman is referenced in pdf/A

Here partial extract content of Image1_Times.SVG
VOTRE BILAN ASSURANCES

3/ The following example don't work  :
MODELE_IMAGES_SVG_Verdana.fo110a.xml


  

  



Here partial extract content of Image1_Verdana.SVG
VOTRE BILAN ASSURANCES

Pdf is ko : the font Helvetiva is referenced in pdf/A instead of Verdana.
Why ?
May be some pb with  Batik ?


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-----Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:13 PM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi,

2 other topics rise here:

1/ Only metrics for base 14 fonts are provided by FOP.
fonts files are not embedded.
used font files depends on what is installed on the system of PDF reader:
When Helvetica is set, usually, Arial is used on Win systems, Helvetica
on Mac.
For those both fonts, metrics are equivalent, not glyphes shapes.
This explains why you don't need to embed font files for regular PDF
when you use base 14 fonts.

2/ For SVG, fonts must be available for both FOP (via config file), and
Batik (witch picks system font data via the java AWT package.

Le 30/05/2012 15:12, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

I don't understand why a simple fo file with texte fo:block
font-family="Helvetica" work fine in PDF-A (no license problem)
and an fo file with SVG image don't work.


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:12 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi,

embedding fonts is required by the PD

Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-05-31 Thread Christian Pestel 

Hi Pascal,

Effectively, I forgot to change Verdana-Bold to Verdana in 
Image1_Verdana.SVG.

Now it's work.
Thank you for your help.

However, my question is how to configure Fop PDF/A config.xml for SVG image 
whose svg font is not present in Fop config.xml (?


1/ Simple fo without SVG image

For simple fo:inline which use for example font-family="BlueHighway" and no 
font "BlueHighway" in config.xml,


With PDF renderer mode, FOP warn only but not fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with 
"any,normal,400".


With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail
ATTENTION: Font "BlueHighway,normal,400" not found. Substituting with 
"any,normal,400".
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even 
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Times-Roman


A workarround of PDF/A fail consist to add the font "any" in config.xml


   embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMES.ttf">

   
   
   embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMESBD.ttf">

   
   
   embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMESI.ttf">

   
   
   embed-url="C:/Windows/Fonts/TIMESBI.ttf">

   
   

2/ fo with SVG image
With PDF/A renderer mode, FOP fail, when the svg font is not present in 
config.xml ( "BlueHighway" for example )
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts, even 
the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica


and the "any" font seems not to be used in this context.

Is there a solution ?
Thank.


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine----- 
From: Pascal Sancho

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:39 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi Christian,

in your svg [Image1_Verdana.SVG], I read:
 font-family="'Verdana-Bold'"
witch is not a regular font-name.

You should use the font-weight property:
 font-family="'Verdana'" font-weight="bold"

that gives for me expected result.

Note that since Verdena-bold is not found, FOP uses the default font (ie
Helvetica), that explains why you get a PDF with Helvetica (not embedded).

Le 31/05/2012 00:42, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Thank for your explanation, but I don't understand.
For explain my problem, I send you some couple of fo/pdfA examples with 
pdf

content not zipped.
I use Fop trunk May 07 2012

1/ The following example work fine :
MODELE_TEXTE_Verdana.fo110a.xml
 
   
 HELLO
 

Pdf is ok : the font Verdana is  embeded in pdf/A

2/ The following example work also fine :
MODELE_IMAGES_SVG_Times.fo110a.xml

   
 
   
 
   


Pdf is ok : the font TimesNewRoman is referenced in pdf/A

Here partial extract content of Image1_Times.SVG
VOTRE BILAN ASSURANCES

3/ The following example don't work  :
MODELE_IMAGES_SVG_Verdana.fo110a.xml

   
 
   
 
   


Here partial extract content of Image1_Verdana.SVG
VOTRE BILAN ASSURANCES

Pdf is ko : the font Helvetiva is referenced in pdf/A instead of Verdana.
Why ?
May be some pb with  Batik ?


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:13 PM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi,

2 other topics rise here:

1/ Only metrics for base 14 fonts are provided by FOP.
fonts files are not embedded.
used font files depends on what is installed on the system of PDF reader:
When Helvetica is set, usually, Arial is used on Win systems, Helvetica
on Mac.
For those both fonts, metrics are equivalent, not glyphes shapes.
This explains why you don't need to embed font files for regular PDF
when you use base 14 fonts.

2/ For SVG, fonts must be available for both FOP (via config file), and
Batik (witch picks system font data via the java AWT package.

Le 30/05/2012 15:12, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

I don't understand why a simple fo file with texte fo:block
font-family="Helvetica" work fine in PDF-A (no license problem)
and an fo file with SVG image don't work.


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:12 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi,

embedding fonts is required by the PDF/A-1b spec, even when you use some
of base 14 fonts.

Since there is license restriction with Helvetica (and other base 14)
font, it is not embedded by default. You have to get it by yourself (you
can purchase it on vendor's web site).

Or you can use another font that is free of charge, like dejaVu (see 
[1]).

Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-05-31 Thread Pascal Sancho 

Hi Christian,

in your svg [Image1_Verdana.SVG], I read:
 font-family="'Verdana-Bold'"
witch is not a regular font-name.

You should use the font-weight property:
 font-family="'Verdana'" font-weight="bold"

that gives for me expected result.

Note that since Verdena-bold is not found, FOP uses the default font (ie 
Helvetica), that explains why you get a PDF with Helvetica (not embedded).


Le 31/05/2012 00:42, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

Thank for your explanation, but I don't understand.
For explain my problem, I send you some couple of fo/pdfA examples with pdf
content not zipped.
I use Fop trunk May 07 2012

1/ The following example work fine :
MODELE_TEXTE_Verdana.fo110a.xml
 
   
 HELLO
 

Pdf is ok : the font Verdana is  embeded in pdf/A

2/ The following example work also fine :
MODELE_IMAGES_SVG_Times.fo110a.xml

   
 
   
 
   


Pdf is ok : the font TimesNewRoman is referenced in pdf/A

Here partial extract content of Image1_Times.SVG
VOTRE BILAN ASSURANCES

3/ The following example don't work  :
MODELE_IMAGES_SVG_Verdana.fo110a.xml

   
 
   
 
   


Here partial extract content of Image1_Verdana.SVG
VOTRE BILAN ASSURANCES

Pdf is ko : the font Helvetiva is referenced in pdf/A instead of Verdana.
Why ?
May be some pb with  Batik ?


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:13 PM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi,

2 other topics rise here:

1/ Only metrics for base 14 fonts are provided by FOP.
fonts files are not embedded.
used font files depends on what is installed on the system of PDF reader:
When Helvetica is set, usually, Arial is used on Win systems, Helvetica
on Mac.
For those both fonts, metrics are equivalent, not glyphes shapes.
This explains why you don't need to embed font files for regular PDF
when you use base 14 fonts.

2/ For SVG, fonts must be available for both FOP (via config file), and
Batik (witch picks system font data via the java AWT package.

Le 30/05/2012 15:12, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

I don't understand why a simple fo file with texte fo:block
font-family="Helvetica" work fine in PDF-A (no license problem)
and an fo file with SVG image don't work.


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:12 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi,

embedding fonts is required by the PDF/A-1b spec, even when you use some
of base 14 fonts.

Since there is license restriction with Helvetica (and other base 14)
font, it is not embedded by default. You have to get it by yourself (you
can purchase it on vendor's web site).

Or you can use another font that is free of charge, like dejaVu (see [1]).

[1] http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page

Le 29/05/2012 18:48, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Developpers,
I have this fop error with PDF/A and SVG image :
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts,
even the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica
no problem with an .JPG image
Here is my fo file :

http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format";
xmlns:fox="http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/extensions";>
















I send you my files : .fo, userconfig.xml, image1.svg

Note that I add the font “any” in my userconfig.xml for a PDF/A
workarround for fonts used in the fo but that are not present in the
UserConfig




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Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-05-30 Thread Pascal Sancho 

Hi,

2 other topics rise here:

1/ Only metrics for base 14 fonts are provided by FOP.
fonts files are not embedded.
used font files depends on what is installed on the system of PDF reader:
When Helvetica is set, usually, Arial is used on Win systems, Helvetica 
on Mac.

For those both fonts, metrics are equivalent, not glyphes shapes.
This explains why you don't need to embed font files for regular PDF 
when you use base 14 fonts.


2/ For SVG, fonts must be available for both FOP (via config file), and 
Batik (witch picks system font data via the java AWT package.


Le 30/05/2012 15:12, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Pascal,

I don't understand why a simple fo file with texte fo:block
font-family="Helvetica" work fine in PDF-A (no license problem)
and an fo file with SVG image don't work.


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine-
From: Pascal Sancho
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:12 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi,

embedding fonts is required by the PDF/A-1b spec, even when you use some
of base 14 fonts.

Since there is license restriction with Helvetica (and other base 14)
font, it is not embedded by default. You have to get it by yourself (you
can purchase it on vendor's web site).

Or you can use another font that is free of charge, like dejaVu (see [1]).

[1] http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page

Le 29/05/2012 18:48, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Developpers,
I have this fop error with PDF/A and SVG image :
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts,
even the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica
no problem with an .JPG image
Here is my fo file :

http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format";
xmlns:fox="http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/extensions";>
















I send you my files : .fo, userconfig.xml, image1.svg

Note that I add the font “any” in my userconfig.xml for a PDF/A
workarround for fonts used in the fo but that are not present in the
UserConfig


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Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-05-30 Thread Christian Pestel 

Hi Pascal,

I don't understand why a simple fo file with texte fo:block 
font-family="Helvetica" work fine in PDF-A (no license problem)

and an fo file with SVG image don't work.


Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr


-Message d'origine- 
From: Pascal Sancho

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:12 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

Hi,

embedding fonts is required by the PDF/A-1b spec, even when you use some
of base 14 fonts.

Since there is license restriction with Helvetica (and other base 14)
font, it is not embedded by default. You have to get it by yourself (you
can purchase it on vendor's web site).

Or you can use another font that is free of charge, like dejaVu (see [1]).

[1] http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page

Le 29/05/2012 18:48, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Developpers,
I have this fop error with PDF/A and SVG image :
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts,
even the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica
no problem with an .JPG image
Here is my fo file :

http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format";
xmlns:fox="http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/extensions"; >
















I send you my files : .fo, userconfig.xml, image1.svg

Note that I add the font “any” in my userconfig.xml for a PDF/A
workarround for fonts used in the fo but that are not present in the
UserConfig

Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr <mailto:cpes...@bdoc.com>



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Re: Offending font: /Helvetica with PDF/A and SVG image

2012-05-30 Thread Pascal Sancho 

Hi,

embedding fonts is required by the PDF/A-1b spec, even when you use some 
of base 14 fonts.


Since there is license restriction with Helvetica (and other base 14) 
font, it is not embedded by default. You have to get it by yourself (you 
can purchase it on vendor's web site).


Or you can use another font that is free of charge, like dejaVu (see [1]).

[1] http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page

Le 29/05/2012 18:48, Christian Pestel a écrit :

Hi Developpers,
I have this fop error with PDF/A and SVG image :
org.apache.fop.pdf.PDFConformanceException: For PDF/A-1b, all fonts,
even the base 14 fonts, have to be embedded! Offending font: /Helvetica
no problem with an .JPG image
Here is my fo file :

http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format";
xmlns:fox="http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/extensions"; >
















I send you my files : .fo, userconfig.xml, image1.svg

Note that I add the font “any” in my userconfig.xml for a PDF/A
workarround for fonts used in the fo but that are not present in the
UserConfig

Christian Pestel

christian.pes...@orange.fr 



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