Re: [foreman-dev] Smart or Foreman Proxy? Let's do Foreman Smart Proxy

[Lukas Zapletal]

All right, all right. I get that, no Foreman Smart Proxy.

I am not starting rename from Smart proxy to Foreman proxy tho. At
least not this time. :-)

LZ

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Martin Bačovský
 wrote:
> +1 for Foreman Proxy
>
>
> On Nov 3, 2016 8:12 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> +1 for Foreman Proxy
>>
>> IMHO the "Smart" word does not add any useful information to the reader.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 11:30:35 AM UTC+2, Tomas Strachota
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/17/2016 03:26 PM, Greg Sutcliffe wrote:
>>> > On 17 October 2016 at 14:12, Lukas Zapletal >> > > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > This appears more inconsistent than the current situation, as there
>>> >> > will
>>> >> > now be three terms, differing between the UI names ("Foreman Smart
>>> >> > Proxy"), API/module names ("smart proxy"), and package names
>>> >> > ("foreman
>>> >> > proxy").
>>> >>
>>> >> That's indeed a very true statement, I'll add that the new term aims
>>> >> to
>>> >> be the glue between the other two.
>>> >
>>> > I think I agree with Dominic, a third standard to fix two other
>>> > standards is a common mistake.
>>> >
>>> >> To be honest, I'd rather kill "Smart Proxy" than "Foreman Proxy" if I
>>> >> had to choose just one.
>>> >
>>> > +1 to that, Foreman Proxy would be my choice.
>>>
>>> +1 for Foreman Proxy
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Greg
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Re: [foreman-dev] Smart or Foreman Proxy? Let's do Foreman Smart Proxy

[Tomas Strachota]

On 10/17/2016 03:26 PM, Greg Sutcliffe wrote:

On 17 October 2016 at 14:12, Lukas Zapletal > wrote:


> This appears more inconsistent than the current situation, as there will
> now be three terms, differing between the UI names ("Foreman Smart
> Proxy"), API/module names ("smart proxy"), and package names ("foreman
> proxy").

That's indeed a very true statement, I'll add that the new term aims to
be the glue between the other two.


I think I agree with Dominic, a third standard to fix two other
standards is a common mistake.


To be honest, I'd rather kill "Smart Proxy" than "Foreman Proxy" if I
had to choose just one.


+1 to that, Foreman Proxy would be my choice.


+1 for Foreman Proxy



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Re: [foreman-dev] Smart or Foreman Proxy? Let's do Foreman Smart Proxy

[Lukas Zapletal]

> This appears more inconsistent than the current situation, as there will
> now be three terms, differing between the UI names ("Foreman Smart
> Proxy"), API/module names ("smart proxy"), and package names ("foreman
> proxy").

That's indeed a very true statement, I'll add that the new term aims to
be the glue between the other two.

I filed a patch just to see how it looks like, I haven't renamed
everything, but basically just index/show/edit/new page titles and
that's it.

But I get your point, it also does not look great at first sight
(basically because I am used to what we had until now).

> If only the installer module name and package name differ from
> everything else, it would make more sense to rename them to "smart
> proxy" so all three are the same.

I am not aware of anything else, but we also have directories like
/etc/foreman-proxy and logs and stuff. This could bite.

To be honest, I'd rather kill "Smart Proxy" than "Foreman Proxy" if I
had to choose just one.

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Re: [foreman-dev] Smart or Foreman Proxy? Let's do Foreman Smart Proxy

[Dominic Cleal]

On 14/10/16 08:34, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> we have Smart Proxy in the Foreman Core, WebUI/API/CLI and also in our
> Core documentation, but in the installer and package name it's
> foreman-proxy. This creates confusion.
> 
> I suggest to "communicate" it from now on with new official name:
> 
> Foreman Smart Proxy
> 
> This will help us to "teach" our users that this is essentially the same
> thing. The suggested changes are easy and non-intrusive:
> 
> * Rename "Smart Proxy" to "Foreman Smart Proxy" in our documentation
> * Rename "Smart Proxy" to "Foreman Smart Proxy" in our codebase
> 
> Controller names, API/CLI and internals all stays with "smart-proxy" of
> course, the idea is only to logically connect these terms.

This appears more inconsistent than the current situation, as there will
now be three terms, differing between the UI names ("Foreman Smart
Proxy"), API/module names ("smart proxy"), and package names ("foreman
proxy").

If only the installer module name and package name differ from
everything else, it would make more sense to rename them to "smart
proxy" so all three are the same.

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Re: [foreman-dev] Smart or Foreman Proxy? Let's do Foreman Smart Proxy

[Daniel Lobato Garcia]

On 10/14, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
> Hello,
>
> we have Smart Proxy in the Foreman Core, WebUI/API/CLI and also in our
> Core documentation, but in the installer and package name it's
> foreman-proxy. This creates confusion.

It doesn't help that ManageIQ also refers to 'smart proxy' on their docs
:) http://talk.manageiq.org/t/where-to-run-the-smart-proxy/836

> I suggest to "communicate" it from now on with new official name:
>
> Foreman Smart Proxy

+1 will make an effort to use that term.

>
> This will help us to "teach" our users that this is essentially the same
> thing. The suggested changes are easy and non-intrusive:
>
> * Rename "Smart Proxy" to "Foreman Smart Proxy" in our documentation
> * Rename "Smart Proxy" to "Foreman Smart Proxy" in our codebase
>
> Controller names, API/CLI and internals all stays with "smart-proxy" of
> course, the idea is only to logically connect these terms.
>
> This was brought at (*) and I would like to bring it here for broad
> discussion:
>
> (*) https://github.com/theforeman/rfcs/pull/23/files#r83370195
>
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[foreman-dev] Smart or Foreman Proxy? Let's do Foreman Smart Proxy

[Lukas Zapletal]

Hello,

we have Smart Proxy in the Foreman Core, WebUI/API/CLI and also in our
Core documentation, but in the installer and package name it's
foreman-proxy. This creates confusion.

I suggest to "communicate" it from now on with new official name:

Foreman Smart Proxy

This will help us to "teach" our users that this is essentially the same
thing. The suggested changes are easy and non-intrusive:

* Rename "Smart Proxy" to "Foreman Smart Proxy" in our documentation
* Rename "Smart Proxy" to "Foreman Smart Proxy" in our codebase

Controller names, API/CLI and internals all stays with "smart-proxy" of
course, the idea is only to logically connect these terms.

This was brought at (*) and I would like to bring it here for broad
discussion:

(*) https://github.com/theforeman/rfcs/pull/23/files#r83370195

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