Re: dc3dd copyright

2009-07-28 Thread Michael Prokop
* Daniel Baumann  wrote:
> Michael Prokop wrote:

>> They list the licenses of all the files but only if they are
>> different from the "generic" one

> err, that's what we do as well anyway, see the other copyright files of
> the packages.

Yes, my point was that I think we could take
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/c/coreutils/current/copyright
as a base and adjust what's relevant for dc3dd code.

-mika-


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Re: dc3dd copyright

2009-07-27 Thread Tim

I'm not sure the exact context of the discussion or how things are
normally handled in Debian, but do keep in mind that licenses do not
equate to copyrights.  Just because someone happens to license a patch
against my project under the same license that I'm using doesn't mean
that I own their code.  They still own that code and happened to
license it to me to include it in the project.  Ideally, all
contributions should be attributed to the respective copyright
holders.  In practice it's rediculously difficult to break out line by
line who added what, so most of the time people do it file-by-file, at
least noting who touched it.

At the end of the day, if a project needs to defend it's copyrights
against someone who is abusing the code, having a long list of names
makes any legal challenges against the code base more difficult for an
adversary.  

Of course, Debian maintainers shouldn't have to go to great lengths to
keep track of this stuff.  The upstream people should be encouraged to
make proper attributions clear in their projects...

tim

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Re: dc3dd copyright

2009-07-27 Thread Daniel Baumann
Michael Prokop wrote:
> They list the licenses of all the files but only if they are
> different from the "generic" one

err, that's what we do as well anyway, see the other copyright files of
the packages.

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Re: dc3dd copyright

2009-07-25 Thread Michael Prokop
* Christophe Monniez wrote:

> Here is a summary of the situation.

> dc3dd is a patched version of gnu/dd from the gnu coreutils package.
> dc3dd uses a lot of files from the coreutils package and some of them
> maybe useless for dc3dd.

> I tried hard to figure out what files are useless but I failed.

> So I need to mention in the debian/copyright file all the authors of
> coreutils files that are used in dc3dd.

> In some cases, it's simple. For example, there are 324 files out of 447
> in lib/ that are the same in coreutils and dc3dd.
> But it left 123 files that I need to figure out if they are patched from
> coreutils or the work of dc3dd author only.

> My question is about the first case. If a file is a patched version of a
> coreutils file, should I mention the dc3dd author in the Debian
> copyright file, or the coreutils autho, or both ?

How about taking the approach from the gnu coreutils package:

  http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/c/coreutils/current/copyright

? They list the licenses of all the files but only if they are
different from the "generic" one (see 'all other files' in the
copyright file). IMHO we should just take the copyright information
upstream of dc3dd decided to specify.

-mika-


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dc3dd copyright

2009-07-10 Thread Christophe Monniez
Here is a summary of the situation.

dc3dd is a patched version of gnu/dd from the gnu coreutils package.
dc3dd uses a lot of files from the coreutils package and some of them
maybe useless for dc3dd.

I tried hard to figure out what files are useless but I failed.

So I need to mention in the debian/copyright file all the authors of
coreutils files that are used in dc3dd.

In some cases, it's simple. For example, there are 324 files out of 447
in lib/ that are the same in coreutils and dc3dd.
But it left 123 files that I need to figure out if they are patched from
coreutils or the work of dc3dd author only.

My question is about the first case. If a file is a patched version of a
coreutils file, should I mention the dc3dd author in the Debian
copyright file, or the coreutils autho, or both ?

-- 
Christophe Monniez 
Belgian Federal Computer Crime Unit


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