Re: [fossil-users] A-B comparison of proposed timeline changes

2017-12-03 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2017-11-24 9:35, Richard Hipp wrote:

Which is better?

   A:  https://www.fossil-scm.org/a/timeline
   B:  https://www.fossil-scm.org/b/timeline


They both use too much vertical screen space, IMO.


Also:

   A: https://www.fossil-scm.org/a/finfo?name=src/search.c
   B: https://www.fossil-scm.org/b/finfo?name=src/search.c


B is much better, IMO.  Just as clear and less vertical space waste.

Wasting space vertically has become a huge problem in UI designs for me 
the last few years.



The change here is to emphasis the check-in comment and de-emphasize
the links to the check-in details and other information.


That's a good objective, and I like the examples about equally from that 
standpoint.


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Re: [fossil-users] Apparently a bug in ticketing

2017-05-24 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2017-05-24 21:27, Andy Bradford wrote:

If you  can reproduce it, perhaps  a video showing all  your commands or
interactions with the UI would also reveal something?


Yeah. :)  Unfortunately, I haven't gotten the scenario narrowed down 
that much.  I'll keep trying to create a reproduction scenario.  The 
only thing I'm positive is common between the two instances is that I 
was creating new tickets in succession, moments apart in the UI.


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Re: [fossil-users] Apparently a bug in ticketing

2017-05-24 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2017-05-23 21:21, Andy Bradford wrote:

Thus said Doug Franklin on Mon, 22 May 2017 18:32:00 -0400:


11. Oops.  I don't have three  tickets. I have two  tickets. The first
ticket is fine. The original second  ticket seems to be gone (it's not
in the "All  tickets" list), and the current second  ticket has all of
the values of the  third ticket, but it has the  user comment from the
original  second ticket  as its  first user  comment, and  the comment
entered for the third ticket as its second user comment.


Also,  regarding the  differing users.  How  is this  possible? Are  you
logging into Fossil UI  using more than one user? What  are you doing to
create tickets using  multiple users? These facts were  not mentioned in
steps 4--10.


Sorry, Andy, that was me not being clear.  I should've put "user 
comment" in quotation marks because I was talking about the field on the 
form labeled "User Comment".  It was three tickets created by one user 
(there's only one actual user, me), one right after the other.  I'll 
rephrase to be more clear:


"... and the second ticket has all of the values of the third ticket, 
but it has the "User Comment" text from the original second ticket as 
its first "User Comment", and the "User Comment" intended for the third 
ticket is now the second "User Comment" of the second ticket."


And I don't expect you'll easily be able to recreate it. I've tried 
numerous times on pristine repositories created just to recreate the 
problem.  But I haven't been able to hit the right combination yet.


And, if it would help, I can share the repos ... maybe as a gist on 
github ...


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[fossil-users] Apparently a bug in ticketing

2017-05-22 Thread Doug Franklin
This is the second repository this has happened on, with two different 
Fossil versions.  The first time, it happened on a large repository of 
stuff I couldn't share, and on a 1.x version of Fossil.  Now, it's 
happened on a small repos filled with stuff I can share.  What I did to 
get where I am:


1. Created a repos.
2. Pulled in some files.
3. Did a few checkins and wiki edits (there are 89 timeline entries of 
all types).

4. Started adding tickets.
5. Clicked "New ticket" from the "All tickets" view.
6. First ticket created fine.
7. Clicked "New ticket" from the view of the first ticket.
8. Second ticket created fine.
9. Clicked "New ticket" from the view of the second ticket.
10. Filled in the form and clicked submit.
11. Oops. I don't have three tickets.  I have two tickets.  The first 
ticket is fine.  The original second ticket seems to be gone (it's not 
in the "All tickets" list), and the current second ticket has all of the 
values of the third ticket, but it has the user comment from the 
original second ticket as its first user comment, and the comment 
entered for the third ticket as its second user comment.


Fossil 2.2 [81d7d3f43e] 2017-04-11 20:54:55 running on Linux Mint 18.

As soon as I noticed it, I copied off the repository file.  It's about 
1.8M bytes.


This hasn't happened on every repository I have, but once it happened 
the first time I got gun shy and I haven't been using tickets as much.


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Re: [fossil-users] Problem with: fossil revert -r xxx

2017-05-11 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2017-05-11 7:03, Richard Hipp wrote:


Yeah.  In fact, I didn't even remember that there was a 'revert'
command.  And even now, I'm not entirely clear what it does, or what
it is intended to do.


I use it a few times a year when I thoroughly mess up a file or two 
locally and need to go back to the version in the repos.  I could delete 
the file and "fossil update", but "fossil rev $filename" is one stop 
shopping.


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Re: [fossil-users] WARNING: multiple open leaf check-ins on trunk:

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2015-05-29 19:19, Ron W wrote:


I suspect, in most case, multiple independent branches with the same
name are not a problem. But trunk is a special case that may warrant a
warning.


I don't think I'd take that suspicion to the bank.  Personally, I think 
it should warn on duplication of an existing tag or branch name, with a 
--force option if you know what you're doing. :)  [Grin because I hose 
myself most often when I'm sure I'm doing the right thing.]


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Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.

2015-05-01 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2015-05-01 4:43, Martin S. Weber wrote:


This is more user-friendly than deciding an optimal
reading width for them (that may or may not pay attention to user-styles,
user-selected fonts, one of the ways a document can be scaled on the
user-end, etc.), so here's a tip to the hat for you: *.


+100

People have different hardware; use their systems differently; configure 
their systems differently; run different sets of applications.  Let 
users decide how big the window should be for their usage and 
preferences, both for browsers and for GUI apps.


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[fossil-users] Associating an existing checking with an existing ticket

2014-11-25 Thread Doug Franklin

Howdy, folks,

If I forget to insert the UUID for a ticket into the checkin/commit 
comment, can I go back later and associate that checkin/commit with that 
ticket?  I can create a new comment for the ticket that includes the 
UUID of the checkin, but that doesn't get Fossil to recognize the 
association.  That is, the checkin doesn't show up in the Associated 
checkins list, even after adding the comment to the ticket.  Perhaps 
some tagging I could do from the command line?


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Re: [fossil-users] Excessively long path length breaks working copy on Windows 7

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2014-11-17 9:31, org.fossil-scm.fossil-us...@io7m.com wrote:


That's still only 234 characters. I'm not entirely sure why I'm
apparently hitting this limit at all. This is easily reproduceable,
just create the above (relative) path on a non-Windows machine and then
check out on a Windows 7 machine.


It could be that there's a conversion to a UNC path in there somewhere. 
 If so, the name would be expanded to something like 
\\MYMACHINE\DRIVE\PATH\ON\THE\DRIVE and might exceed the Windows limits. 
 Though I thought those limits had gone up to something around 1,000 
characters (bytes?) when NTFS came along.


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[fossil-users] Strange Problem

2014-11-04 Thread Doug Franklin

Howdy, folks,

I've got a small repository that I built using Fossil 1.25 that is 
called the LocalEnv repository.  I access it over CGI to a local 
server, logged in as a supervisor user.  It's almost all Markdown wiki 
pages pulled from /doc/tip and a couple of logo graphics files.  The 
wiki's home page is stored in /doc/tip/home.md.  A little while ago, I 
accidentally edited it in WYSIWIG mode instead of Markdown mode and 
saved the changes.  Now, when I choose the Wiki option on the main 
menu, I have two home page entries:


 * /doc/tip/home.md wiki home page.
 * LocalEnv project home page.

The second one has always been there, but the first one is new.  When I 
choose the first one, it takes me back to the home page, but with no sub 
menu to allow editing the home page.  When I choose the second one, it 
takes me to an empty page having a submenu with Edit and History 
entries.


Also, the repo was configured to allow WYSIWIG editing, but now it's not.

I went to the new home page and deleted the contents got an actually 
empty page with a complete submenu (Append, Attach, Details, Diff, Edit, 
History).  That didn't fix the problem, though.  I still have two home 
page entries in the Wiki page, and I still can't get a submenu on the 
home page through the WWW interface.


I'd love to hear suggestions on debugging what went wrong so I can 
figure out how to fix it.  I tried going back to the Admin - 
Configuration page and resetting the Index Page, but that didn't help. 
I also tried re-enabling Allow WYSIWIG Editing, but that also didn't help.


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Re: [fossil-users] Strange Problem

2014-11-04 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2014-11-04 10:03, Stephan Beal wrote:


i don't have an immediate suggestion other than to first try a newer
version. 1.25 is about 18 months old [...]


Sorry, I left that out of my email.  I created the repo under 1.25.  A 
couple of weeks ago I upgraded that server to Fossil 1.29.  Everything 
worked fine until that inadvertent edit of the home page in WYSIWIG 
mode.  Which reminded me of fossil rebuild, which fixed me up nicely! 
 Sorry for the noise, I should've remembered fossil rebuild sooner.


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Re: [fossil-users] syncing many repositories

2014-08-09 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2014-08-09 12:48, org.fossil-scm.fossil-us...@io7m.com wrote:


I don't suppose there's any way to make fossil hit a given URI whenever
the current repository receives artifacts?


Could the recently discussed RSS feature help, at least to provide 
notifications of updates on the public side?



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Re: [fossil-users] fossil CLI tricks: interrupting a commit message

2014-06-17 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2014-06-17 22:00, Andy Goth wrote:


This almost works in csh (which I am regrettably forced to use).  Yes,
the command is not executed but is still stuffed in the history buffer,


Maybe I'm OCD or something, but if I have to do it more than twice, it 
gets embodied as a script. :)


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Re: [fossil-users] Location of .fossil Database

2014-05-21 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2014-05-21 12:49, Stephan Beal wrote:


We all have our quirks. One of mine is that i refuse to come into
physical contact with an Apple product of any sort, do not provide any
tech support of any kind for Apple products, nor do i allow Apple
products in my flat. (Why i do that is not relevant here, i'm just
pointing out that we are all pedantic about something or other.)


I'm the same way about magazine disconnector safeties. :)

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Re: [fossil-users] can fossil try harder on sync failure?

2014-05-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2014-05-08 16:18, Rich Neswold wrote:

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Andy Bradford
amb-sendok-1402034378.gfecjnjggaibliman...@bradfords.org wrote:

Thus said Rich Neswold on Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:40:23 -0500:


It  would be  nice  if  fossil would  break  the  pull into  smaller
transactions which  contain valid  timeline commits  so, if  there's a
database timeout, the next time I  try to pull it can continue where
it left off.


Does SQLite support nested transactions?  If so, that would seem to be 
worth considering.


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Re: [fossil-users] ticket editing

2014-03-17 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2014-03-17 5:53, j. van den hoff wrote:


it is really a
nuisance to look at a seriously misleading/erroneous/misplaced ticket
comment (the more so, if it happens not to be the very last one) and not
being able to correct it.


I just close the broken ticket and start a new one.  I even add a Bad 
Ticket resolution so those cases can be filtered in or out.


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Re: [fossil-users] Missing highlighted space changes in diff?

2014-03-05 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2014-03-05 6:39, Stephan Beal wrote:


By removing the if, Joel changed the semantics (not only the
indentation) of the code. i would argue that he is indeed the one who
should be blamed in that case.


In Python, changing that indentation does indeed change the semantics. 
It changes which block contains the line.


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Re: [fossil-users] Memorable names for ticket IDs

2013-09-06 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2013-09-06 20:11, Ross Berteig wrote:


 ba-ba-ba-ba
 12345678di-ku-poo-wa
 74a95e62vu-che-roo-si
 da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709
 ghi-le-clo-phoo-roo-to-no-cy-ki-py-frau-
   phau-bly-sa-fa-bla-chau-gha-bau-ce


That last one is too long for easy comprehension or handling.  But the 
four syllable ones for four bytes work reasonably well.  Odd numbers of 
digits could possibly be handled by having a separate set of sixteen 
syllables used only in the case of a trailing odd hex digit, or forcing 
sixteen specific syllables to be used in that case.


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Re: [fossil-users] Memorable names for ticket IDs

2013-09-05 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2013-09-05 13:43, Ross Berteig wrote:

First off, as you mentioned a few posts ago, you've got to get it 
examining the bits in the same order and chunks regardless of the 
endianness of the host.  At that point, it seems like prefixing ought 
to start working as expected.



I'm not convinced we ever need to generate the memorable name from any
less information than the entire hash.


These are going to get long, fast, as someone else already noted. 
However, in the past I've seen algorithms to generate random words 
that are still pronounceable, one character at a time.  The trouble here 
is likely to be the comparative lack of vowels.  Perhaps an algorithm 
generating words and/or phrases from syllables instead of characters. 
And perhaps some algorithm along those lines could mashup with the code 
you already have to produce prefixable, pronounceable, memorable phrase 
tokens for the hashes, that don't end up too long for people to want to 
deal with them.


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Re: [fossil-users] commits from host A sometimes not seen on B

2013-08-19 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2013-08-19 20:31, Richard Hipp wrote:

That option is unreleased, so you'll have to compile from sources.  That
is easier than you might imagine.  Instructions here:
http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/trunk/www/build.wiki


It /must/ be.  Even /I/ managed it! :)

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[fossil-users] Fwd: It's Probably Permissions

2013-06-19 Thread Doug Franklin

 Original Message 
Subject: It's Probably Permissions
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:42:56 -0400
From: Doug Franklin nutdriverle...@comcast.net

 I'm trying for the first time to get Fossil hooked up via
 CGI with my tame Apache server.  [...]

So, I found the problem ...

At Richard's suggestion, I got rid of the soft links from, and removed, 
the /usr/share/fossil directory.  The only reason it existed was to 
house soft links to user repositories in directories private to the 
user.  That was to allow the Apache user to be able to serve private 
repositories without opening up user-private directory permissions.


Then I changed the cgi-bin scripts for the repositories to reference the 
user-private directories directly.  Opened up the permissions on the 
repository files.  Still the same problem (can't open the -journal 
file).  Once I gave world-write permission to the user-private directory 
housing the .fossil files, everything was hunky dory.  Now I just have 
to dink around with the groups and such to tailor that breach of the 
user-private directories.


Also, following Richard's suggestion, I tried accessing 
$SERVER/cgi-bin/$REPOSITORY/test-env, but it produced the same page that 
I got without /test-env on the URL.


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[fossil-users] It's Probably Permissions

2013-06-16 Thread Doug Franklin

Howdy, folks,

I'm trying for the first time to get Fossil hooked up via CGI with my 
tame Apache server.  It's running on 32-bit x86 Linux.  It's a pretty 
much bone stock Apache on Linux install, with modules alias and mod_cgi 
installed.  The scripts for my two Fossil repositories are the only thin 
in the cgi-bin directory, even.


I've got two repositories.  They live in my ~/fossil directory.  The 
actual repository files are both 644 permissions, owned my my user.


To hook them up to CGI, I created soft links from /usr/share/fossil to 
each of the .fossil repository files in ~/fossil.  These soft links are 
owned by root.  They currently have l777 permissions, probably as a 
result of my dinking around trying to fix this issue.


Then I created two files in /usr/lib/cgi-bin, one for each repository.

/usr/lib/cgi-bin/DAV:
#!/usr/bin/fossil
repository: /usr/share/fossil/DAV.fossil

/usr/lib/cgi-bin/LocalEnv:
#!/usr/bin/fossil
repository: /usr/share/fossil/LocalEnv.fossil

These files have permissions 755 and are owned by root.

Accessing the DAV.fossil repository over CGI works just fine with the 
URL http://$MYSERVER/cgi-bin/DAV and all operations appear to work as 
expected.


However trying to access LocalEnv.fossil using 
http://$MYSERVER/cgi-bin/LocalEnv results in a database error after 
redirecting to $MYSERVER/cgi-bin/LocalEnv/doc/tip/home.md:


attempt to write a readonly database: {CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS 
vcache(vid INTEGER, fname TEXT, rid INTEGER, UNIQUE(vid,fname,rid))}


If I go to ~/fossil I can use fossil rebuild $REPOSITORY successfully. 
If I go to /usr/share/fossil, I have to use sudo fossil rebuild 
$REPOSITORY, but for both of them.  That makes sense since root owns the 
ones in /usr/share/fossil and my local user the ones in ~/fossil.


In each location, the cgi-bin scripts and the .fossil repository files 
have the same permissions, but the DAV repository works and the LocalEnv 
repository throws up errors over CGI.


The only difference I can think of, besides their contents, is that the 
LocalEnv repository uses embedded documentation and uses 
$HOST/cgi-bin/$REPOS/home/tips/home.md as the home page while the DAV 
repository just lets everything default and uses the default 
$HOST/cgi-bin/$REPOS/home URL.


Any suggestions would be gleefully appreciated!

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[fossil-users] Missing Wiki Pages

2013-06-10 Thread Doug Franklin

Howdy, folks,

I don't know about anyone else, but I would find it quite useful to have 
a command to list all the missing wiki pages, in addition to the 
existing command to show all wiki pages.  In other words, it would show 
any wiki page links from existing wiki pages that do not have a target 
wiki page.  This would help catching typos in wiki page links, and it 
would help people like me who create documents outward in (top-bottom 
and bottom-top at the same time, meeting somewhere in the middle, 
eventually, hopefully).


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Re: [fossil-users] custom priorities in ticket system

2013-06-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2013-06-07 16:53, Chad Perrin wrote:

How would I go about adding a blocking severity or priority to
Fossil's ticketing system (aka bugtracker)?  Is there some other
approach to solving the problem of identifying an issue as blocking
that people use, that has not occurred to me?


From the Web UI, Admin - Tickets - Common

from there you can change the sets of values used for all of the 
enumerations in the ticketing system.  The severity_choices and 
priority_choices declarations sound like the ones you seek.


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Re: [fossil-users] Did you know that Fossil could do...

2013-05-28 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2013-05-28 9:08, Richard Hipp wrote:

Survey:  How many people know that in the web-based timeline for Fossil,
you can click on any two nodes in the graph and get a diff between those
two nodes?

I think this is a very useful feature.  But I'm guessing that not many
people know it exists.  Please confirm or refute my guess.


Not me, but I'm pretty new to Fossil.


And assuming I'm guessing correctly, do you have any suggestions on how
I can get the word out about this and other useful but obscure features
of Fossil?


Hmmm.  Maybe a fortune when the program starts up?  Each fortune 
gives a teaser for one of these features and tells the operator how to 
get more detailed information, say, from the web site?


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[fossil-users] Markdown

2013-05-28 Thread Doug Franklin
Do the default (downloadable) versions of Fossil not have Markdown 
support enabled, or am I doing something wrong?  My browser keeps 
telling me open or save this unknown file type.


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Re: [fossil-users] Ticket 'subsystem' field?

2013-03-24 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2013-03-24 17:40, LluĂ­s Batlle i Rossell wrote:

On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 09:37:41PM +, org.fossil-scm.fossil-us...@io7m.com 
wrote:

Hello.

I can set the subsystem field of a given ticket to XYZ with fossil
ticket set X subsystem XYZ, but I can't seem to work out how to
populate the drop down subsystem menu in the web interface. Is this
documented anywhere?

I sort of expected entries to appear there after I'd set the fields of
a few tickets, but they didn't.


Menu Admin, Tickets, Common.  Edit the values in the 
subsystem_choices group.


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[fossil-users] Fwd: Configuration Export/Import

2013-02-26 Thread Doug Franklin




 Original Message 
Subject: [fossil-users] Configuration Export/Import
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:18:19 -0500
From: Doug Franklin nutdriverle...@comcast.net

 However, I normally work in a cloned and autosynced copy of that
 repository.  The clone lives on Windows XP.  When I export the
 configuration from the clone on XP, the output file does not have any 
 of my customizations, and only one user.


Well, I think the reply to this StackOverflow question answers mine, 
too, I just didn't find it before posting here. :)


http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13285099/common-header-and-footer-in-fossil?rq=1

I'm just asking something of it that it doesn't supply.

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[fossil-users] Configuration Export/Import

2013-02-23 Thread Doug Franklin

Howdy, folks,

I'm pretty new to fossil (less than a month), but I'm a veteran of other 
SCM systems, and I've quickly gotten Fossil pretty well tuned in to the 
way I want to work.  So I tried using the configuration export and 
configuration import commands to make a template configuration.  It 
worked just fine when I did it on Linux, including all of my customizations.


However, I normally work in a cloned and autosynced copy of that 
repository.  The clone lives on Windows XP.  When I export the 
configuration from the clone on XP, the output file does not have any of 
my customizations, and only one user.


I'm using the version 1.25 binaries posted to fossil-scm.org a few days 
ago.  I created the repository with the 1.24 binaries from last October, 
also downloaded from fossil-scm.org.


Does this sound like a bug, or like I'm doing something wrong?  It seems 
pretty difficult to mess up fossil open REPOS, fossil conf export all 
FILE, but I've messed up simpler stuff before.


I'd also like to suggest that the configuration export/import process 
not bring over the password hashes of users.  I'd suggest that export 
not emit the pw hashes at all, and that import ignore them if present. 
Import would create a default password for any new users, and display 
it, like it does for the new and init commands.  Passwords for existing 
users would be left alone.  If I can get some time, I'll poke around in 
the source and see if I can come up with a patch.


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