Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Philip Bennefall on Sun, 07 Sep 2014 19:39:40 +0200: However, non-propagating tags added with tag add do not show up. So even though both tags are non-propagating, one of them shows up but not the other. fossil tag modifies artifacts *AFTER* they have been created. fossil

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Andy Bradford on 08 Sep 2014 00:09:18 -0600: fossil tag modifies artifacts *AFTER* they have been created. Minor technicality... it doesn't modify the artifact per se, it generates a control file artifact that applies to the artifact. Andy -- TAI64 timestamp:

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Warren Young
On 9/7/2014 17:10, Will Parsons wrote: I have to admit that I *hate* to mistype a commit message and have it frozen for all time. Using an editor just seems so much easier... Fossil lets you edit commit messages. In true Fossil fashion, the old message isn't overwritten, just *overridden*,

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Richard Hipp
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: the timeline compresses whitespace in commit messages, so you can't see paragraph breaks without digging down into the individual checkin. I wish it would not collapse double newlines. Have you tried selecting the Allow

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: Sometimes one of my commit messages actually stretches to the point of needing paragraphs, either because the problem it fixes is particularly complex or because the solution/feature is. On the problem description side,

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On the fix description side, I put any detail commentary in the source comments and include a reference to the ticket. Even if you In my experience a ticket number is the longest-lasting/maintainable approach (though _all_ of my

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Warren Young
On 9/8/2014 08:51, Richard Hipp wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com mailto:war...@etr-usa.com wrote: I wish it would not collapse double newlines. Have you tried selecting the Allow block-markup in timeline option on the Admin/Timeline page ?

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: In my experience a ticket number is the longest-lasting/maintainable approach (though _all_ of my colleagues complain when i do it, What don't they like about putting ticket IDs in the code comments?

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: In my experience a ticket number is the longest-lasting/maintainable approach (though _all_ of my colleagues complain when i do it, What don't they

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: The answer, invariably (and correctly), is go look up that ticket number in Jira. RIGHT! But they still don't like seeing it. Seems to be just a force of habit. I think perhaps your experimental subjects are

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: I think perhaps your experimental subjects are expecting that to be the answer. Very possibly. I think a better experiment might be to find a complex change one of them made, then ask them to explain to you what they were

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Will Parsons varro@nodomain.invalid wrote: It's so much easier to compose the message and correct typing mistakes if one is doing it in an editor rather than on the command line. Not if one has mastered command-line editing. :) -- - stephan beal

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Personally I use what is called a screen reader, which enables blind and visually impaired users to use computers. When writing in a text editor such as notepad it is easier and more convenient to edit text, as opposed

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Philip Bennefall
Thank you! That was quick. I am wondering though, whether tags added using the tag add command should also show up? For example, I did: fossil tag add testing trunk But that did not show up in the editor output. The tags I added using --tag in the commit command show up just fine now though,

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Thank you! That was quick. I am wondering though, whether tags added using the tag add command should also show up? For example, I did: fossil tag add testing trunk But that did not show up in the editor output.

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Philip Bennefall
Just to be sure I understand you correctly, is there then a conceptual difference between tags added with tag add and --tag in the commit command? I thought that they were the same, with the main difference being that tags added in the commit command never propagate. Kind regards, Philip

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Philip Bennefall on Sun, 07 Sep 2014 16:46:49 +0200: fossil tag add testing trunk But that did not show up in the editor output. The tags I added using --tag in the commit command show up just fine now though, which is great. Is that because the tag is not propagating? Try

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Just to be sure I understand you correctly, is there then a conceptual difference between tags added with tag add and --tag in the commit command? No funcational difference. I thought that they were the same, with

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Philip Bennefall
Yes, it definitely makes sense that --tag should honor *, - and +. When it comes to the tags output in the editor document, could the tags added with tag add be included as well or are there some difficulties there? I should say that I am a relatively new Fossil user, and while I am

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Sun, 07 Sep 2014 17:56:37 +0200: to assume that all tags passed in this way are symbolic tags[1], and will in fact do non-intuitive things if you try to use: --tag '*propagating' (with an asterisk in front to make it look like a propagating tag). IMO

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Sun, 07 Sep 2014 17:56:37 +0200: However, the --tag option appears: Ooh, we're talking about --tag, not ``fossil tag'' so maybe my previous comments were off the mark. Your comments were about making --tag understand things. Excuse the interference. Andy --

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Yes, it definitely makes sense that --tag should honor *, - and +. When it comes to the tags output in the editor document, could the tags added with tag add be included as well or are there some difficulties there?

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Sun, 07 Sep 2014 17:56:37 +0200: to assume that all tags passed in this way are symbolic tags[1], and will in fact do non-intuitive things if you try to use: --tag '*propagating' (with an asterisk in front to make it look like a propagating tag).

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Philip Bennefall
@Andy: Yes, you are right. If I add --propagate to the tag add command, it does show up in the output in the editor. @Stephan: I ran some tests regarding tags, and have the following results: 1. Tags added with the --tag option in commit show up as expected, and they do not propagate. 2.

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Philip Bennefall on Sun, 07 Sep 2014 18:40:32 +0200: So in summary, it seems that non-propagating tags now show up in the editor output if they are added as part of the commit command but not if they are added with tag add. And that is working as designed. A non-propagating tag

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: There certainly is an argument that there should be, but how should it be implemented? And how much of the underlying tags implementation should it expose? For example, what if I want the tag to not be

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: It's still only a 1 line window - unless you know a trick I don't (I (and my team) try to write several lines even though we do rely on citing issues.) i just keep on typing...

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread David Mason
On 7 September 2014 14:00, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: It takes me less time to type such a message from the CLI than it does to either (A) wait on emacs (my preferred editor) to start up or (B) fight with vi in doing the little things my fingers do intuitively in emacs.

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Stephan Beal
emacsclient just so i can type formatted commit messages more quickly? Have simply never felt the need to use an editor for commit messages. -m... Works just fine. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-07 Thread Will Parsons
Stephan Beal wrote: --===1015663013== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04388df3ee3c0605027d793b --f46d04388df3ee3c0605027d793b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: It's still only a 1 line

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-06 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: whether it should really say branch rather than tags. Is this a bug, or is it really meant to be branch rather than tags? It's probably just an oversight. IIRC, the --tag option to commit was added relative recently

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-06 Thread Will Parsons
Stephan Beal wrote: It's probably just an oversight. IIRC, the --tag option to commit was added relative recently (within the past year), and in my experience most people provide the message on the command line, so they never see that. i honestly can't remember the last time i let an scm

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-06 Thread B Harder
On Sep 6, 2014 11:11 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: whether it should really say branch rather than tags. Is this a bug, or is it really meant to be branch rather than tags? It's probably just an