Re: [fossil-users] cloning from fossil-scm.org fails (from one machine..?)

2015-01-24 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:27:55 -0500: I would hope that the local machine knows that it cannot provide IPv6 service and that getaddrinfo() should therefore always return an IPv4 address. But apparently that is not happening on Michai's machine. That's a fair point. I

Re: [fossil-users] cloning from fossil-scm.org fails (from one machine..?)

2015-01-24 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Andy Bradford on 24 Jan 2015 14:00:22 -0700: Should Fossil have such a selection mechanism in an option that indicates whether IPv6 should be preferred, with the default falling to IPv4? s/in/or/ Should Fossil have such a selection mechanism or an option

Re: [fossil-users] Old problem not entirely gone?

2015-02-02 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Jan Danielsson on Sun, 01 Feb 2015 15:08:07 +0100: In that thread the commit http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/b4dffdac5e706980d911a0e672526ad461ec0640 was brought up as a potential fix. I updated to get the fix and then tried running a clone, and I could indeed get the

Re: [fossil-users] configure reset skin resets too much

2015-02-02 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said David Given on Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:51:33 +0100: It seems that doing 'fossil config reset skin' *also* resets the index path to the default. Does anyone have an opinion on this? I'm not going to do a merge without a sign-off... I don't think it makes much sense for

Re: [fossil-users] Compare by hash

2015-01-14 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Kelly Dean on Wed, 14 Jan 2015 23:57:57 +: Instead of sha1, use something like a 160-bit version of xxhash, which is 10-20 times faster than a secure hash, and has no more risk of collision than does the latter, assuming you don't commit malicious people's data. The use

Re: [fossil-users] Compare by hash

2015-01-15 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Andy Bradford on 15 Jan 2015 13:37:24 -0700: Or would the sync protocol have to be modified so that the client, on push, receives a copy of any existing artifacts that it is intending to push so that it can compare the contents prior to pushing? Not this. This is already what

Re: [fossil-users] Compare by hash

2015-01-15 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Kelly Dean on Tue, 13 Jan 2015 23:24:49 +: Yes. And it needs to compare the contents, not just compare hashes as a shortcut. Given Fossil's distributed design, I don't think it is always possible to compare contents, at least not on the client. For example: A clones from S B

Re: [fossil-users] Alternative skin for the main Fossil website

2015-02-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:21:32 -0500: https://www.fossil-scm.org/skin2 Please let me know if you see any problems with the look of this alternative skin. One other thing I've noticed is that the second-level menu in the Timeline page doesn't line up

Re: [fossil-users] Alternative skin for the main Fossil website

2015-02-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:21:32 -0500: https://www.fossil-scm.org/skin2 Please let me know if you see any problems with the look of this alternative skin. Looks nice, except it has no background color. Perhaps this is intentional? Andy -- TAI64

Re: [fossil-users] Expand a current repo

2015-02-10 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Harry Putnam on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:32:51 -0500: You get the picture. However I've only worked on (part of) one host's project files so far and my immediate expansion would be from z up to x0 on one hosts files. How tightly related are the files from different hosts? If they are

Re: [fossil-users] incorrect repository schema version:

2015-02-18 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said j. van den hoff on Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:44:47 +0100: doing the exact same cloning command after login to the server (i.e. via a ssh connection to itself) the clone is just fine. whether an accidental coincidence or not: this happened today and just one day after I updated

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil 2.0 (reprise)

2015-02-18 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Ashwin Hirschi on Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:32:57 +0100: Yeah, it feels a bit counter-intuitive: monospaced fonts are usually associated with old things [;-)]. But using them for the check-in links really helps make the timeline easier to read. I prefer monospaced fonts for most

Re: [fossil-users] Bug in command line help?

2015-02-18 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said =?koi8-r?B?7cnOxNLP1yDl18fFzsnK?= on Wed, 18 Feb 2015 22:32:02 +0300: There's no BASELINE mentioned in Usage header, it's CHECKIN now, so I'm sure this is a leftover from the previous version, and probably this should be fixed (BASELINE to CHECKIN in the details text). Thanks

Re: [fossil-users] Improving Fossil's Look

2015-02-18 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:43:15 -0500: I have switched the default Fossil repo over to using the San Francisco Modern skin. Everybody seems to think it looks a lot better, and I agree. It does look better, but it lacks a background color. :-) Andy -- TAI64

Re: [fossil-users] Jim Tcl website is broken

2015-01-28 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Steve Bennett on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:49:42 +1000: This is because (e.g.) http://jim.tcl.tk/index.html/doc/www/www/news/ no longer automatically redirects to http://jim.tcl.tk/index.html/doc/www/www/news/index.html Likely caused by:

Re: [fossil-users] cloning from fossil-scm.org fails (from one machine..?)

2015-01-24 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:18:18 -0500: OK. Enhanced to do as Joerg describes. Seem to work fine on Michai's machine now without needing to --ipv4 manually. Excellent change! After my last email, I started to look at the changes required and you beat me to it. :-)

Re: [fossil-users] cloning from fossil-scm.org fails (from one machine..?)

2015-01-24 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Michai Ramakers on Sat, 24 Jan 2015 20:19:20 +0100: michai@delle:/tmp/f/f/f2$ ../fossil clone http://fossil-scm.org f.f cannot connect to host fossil-scm.org:80 Clone done, sent: 0 received: 0 ip: 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe96:b959 server returned an error - clone aborted It

Re: [fossil-users] cloning from fossil-scm.org fails (from one machine..?)

2015-01-24 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Michai Ramakers on Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:09:05 +0100: Does your network have IPv6 support? none whatsoever. Ok, so apparently Fossil has recently had IPv6 support enabled in the client and it does seem that it is choosing to use IPv6 in favor of IPv4, even though you don't

Re: [fossil-users] Misleading report that clone finished

2015-01-06 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Kelly Dean on Sun, 04 Jan 2015 04:21:55 +: Yesterday, the network probably dropped some packets. But it's misleading, at least for a new user, for Fossil to report that the clone finished when it actually didn't. I have not been able to reproduce this problem. Do

Re: [fossil-users] Dealing with an unreliable remote?

2015-01-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said org.fossil-scm.fossil-us...@io7m.com on Fri, 09 Jan 2015 23:53:16 +: Made a copy of the repos here with the default 500 limit: http://fossil.io7m.com/repo.cgi/io7m-r1-500 Thanks. So far I've seen a core dump: $ fossil clone --verbose --httptrace

Re: [fossil-users] Dealing with an unreliable remote?

2015-01-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Sat, 10 Jan 2015 03:56:11 +0100: i have an idea but can't try it out: rebuild_step() local var: Blob copy; == Blob copy = empty_blob; Ok, after many attempts (timing problems are so much fun), I was still able to get a core dump even after initializing copy

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil DB Corruption

2015-01-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Warren Young on Fri, 09 Jan 2015 18:32:16 -0700: Mr Boehme, have you considered hosting your Fossil repository either on ChiselApp or your own cheap VPS? Then you're not relying on the cloud disk syncing mechanism to do the right thing with the Fossil blobs. You're

Re: [fossil-users] Dealing with an unreliable remote?

2015-01-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Sat, 10 Jan 2015 03:56:11 +0100: i have an idea but can't try it out: rebuild_step() local var: Blob copy; == Blob copy = empty_blob; Thanks, I'll try it out... I'll have to back up a bit because I already made a change that will abort on short reads: $

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil DB Corruption

2015-01-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Boehme on Fri, 09 Jan 2015 18:35:18 -0500: Can anyone recommend how I can fix this? Reclone, open the clone, copy the files from the broken repository and commit? Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 400054b07afd ___ fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Dealing with an unreliable remote?

2015-01-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:53:44 -0500: Clones are specially optimized so that they run faster. And this is probably interfering with the restart. A push or pull is completely restartable. Perhaps something can be done. Until then, I think this will at least not

Re: [fossil-users] Dealing with an unreliable remote?

2015-01-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said org.fossil-scm.fossil-us...@io7m.com on Fri, 09 Jan 2015 23:30:55 +: Yep, lowering it to 100 from 500 seems to have helped a lot. Drat! I wanted to try to clone your repo later while it was misbehaving so I could see what problem you were hitting. :-) Similar to the

Re: [fossil-users] Misleading report that clone finished

2015-01-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Mon, 12 Jan 2015 02:06:30 +0100: Seems i can only set high and low priority, but some boxes may allow more details setup. I can set up all kind of QoS on my firewall, but most devices don't allow one to request random and routine packet loss and

Re: [fossil-users] Misleading report that clone finished

2015-01-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Kelly Dean on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:37:12 +: Just ask your ISP or network administrator to lower your quality of service, or try using wifi while a large number of microwave ovens are operating nearby. Wifi with a microwave would have been much easier than what I was doing! I

Re: [fossil-users] Misleading report that clone finished

2015-01-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Kelly Dean on Fri, 09 Jan 2015 08:39:35 +: HTTPS can't prevent a proxy from dropping packets, including all packets after a certain number of bytes for the connection. It also doesn't prevent bogus reset packets, though a properly-designed secure transport protocol

Re: [fossil-users] Misleading report that clone finished

2015-01-08 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Kelly Dean on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 08:52:28 +: Yes, a badly-behaving one. That's why I said the network probably dropped some packets. But I used HTTPS, so the problems the proxy could have introduced would be no more than dropped packets, and bogus TCP resets (which SSL

Re: [fossil-users] Misleading report that clone finished

2015-01-06 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Kelly Dean on Tue, 06 Jan 2015 21:03:03 +: That's horrible. You have to re-download the entire repository if one packet is lost at the end? If you're suggesting that Fossil should treat network errors differently during cloning and complete with whatever artifacts have

Re: [fossil-users] Fwd: Troubles rendering some unicode characters?

2015-01-06 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Ashwin Hirschi on Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:08:12 +0100: As an alternative, you could try some predefined entities like uarr; and darr; (for up- and down-arrow resp.). These actually render ``prettier'' for me than the Unicode characters, perhaps because they are older as you suggest.

Re: [fossil-users] Illogical justification of different hash

2015-01-12 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Kelly Dean on Tue, 13 Jan 2015 01:42:51 +: But if the R-card is optional, then it can simply be removed entirely, right? It can, certainly. That doesn't mean it should in all environments. Keeping it as an option means that those who are best able to evaluate the need

Re: [fossil-users] Some peanut gallerizing

2015-01-12 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Tue, 13 Jan 2015 03:06:46 +0100: [stephan@host:~/cvs/fossil/tcl]$ f-query -e select sum(b.size) from blob b, event e where e.type='ci' and b.rid=e.objid sum(b.size) 233986926 Hmm, that number is considerably different than this: http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/stat What's

Re: [fossil-users] Some peanut gallerizing

2015-01-13 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Tue, 13 Jan 2015 11:51:57 +0100: my query above was only counting the size of all manifests. Oh, that's an interesting query indeed; I must have misunderstood. Thanks, Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 400054b54e1d ___

Re: [fossil-users] Expand a current repo

2015-02-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Harry Putnam on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 20:03:28 -0500: I'm not so concerned about losing my experimental repo recoreds of its files. I was trying to ask if I could acquire a much larger set of files by moving my current repo db file and then go to the highest level of this

Re: [fossil-users] Problem with /dev/random and /dev/null in latest versions?

2015-02-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richie Adler on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:03:13 -0300: WARNING: Device /dev/null is not available for reading and writing. WARNING: Device /dev/urandom is not available for reading. This means that the pseudo-random number generator used by SQLite will be poorly seeded. Are you

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-10 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said John Found on Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:32:09 +0200: It doesn't matter. It is even more simple, just detect the first hex number, enclosed in square brackets and you will be fine, notice, without assuming any length at all. If you want to use finfo with -b option, simply scan to

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-10 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:49:06 -0500: But I find those 40-character long URL parameters annoying a have been slowing reducing the length of (2) in specific places where it annoys me. I propose either 16 or 20 as the default length for (2). Probably the shorter. For a

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:52:41 -0500: My text editor, written ~20 years ago in Tk3.6, is now uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/e.txt - The server keeps closing the connection when trying to get this file. Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 400054aea5d2

Re: [fossil-users] branch is being created upon commit without a request to create a branch

2015-02-20 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Andy Bradford on 20 Feb 2015 15:15:13 -0700: Thus said Julie Aguas on Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:37:02 -0800: 5) If I try on another computer which is synced to the same master repository, I see no evidence of the branch existing at all in the local repository, even though it shows

Re: [fossil-users] branch is being created upon commit without a request to create a branch

2015-02-20 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Julie Aguas on Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:37:02 -0800: 1) My source tree is pointing to a branch off the trunk 3) I commit the changes to my source tree. I don't request a branch, and no message comes indicating that the change will cause a fork. It looks like the commit goes through

Re: [fossil-users] fossil server for timeline will return empty result for some parameters max

2015-03-17 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said die.drachen die.drac...@gmail.com on Wed, 18 Mar 2015 00:58:41 -0400: Unfortunately I'm unable to distribute the repo, which is also quite large (~730mb .fossil file, 93k commits). Are there additional measures I can take to get diagnostic information? You could ensure

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-15 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said bch on Sun, 15 Mar 2015 01:05:42 -0700: Has the Ryerson Bug be characterised? Yes. Basically, versions of Fossil 1.27 and older, assumed that the first rid in the blob table would always be a checkin. This was true because the first thing fossil new did was to create a bogus

[fossil-users] Footer missing on www.fossil-scm.org?

2015-03-14 Thread Andy Bradford
Hello, I just browsed to: https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/timeline?y=ci and there is no footer... Not sure if this is due to the skin that is currently enabled on it, or some other cause, but I thought I would point it out. Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 40005505086d

Re: [fossil-users] Footer missing on www.fossil-scm.org?

2015-03-14 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Andy Bradford on 14 Mar 2015 22:19:22 -0600: https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/timeline?y=ci and there is no footer... Oh, I see the problem. The text in the footer is some color of grey, and there is no body color defined in www.fossil-scm.org's CSS, and it just happens to match

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-16 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:41:34 +0100: wiki-/ticket-only repos might not have a manifest at all. Then these types of repositories would have to be unclonable by older versions of Fossil. The server would have to refuse the clone request (similar to how it refuses to

Re: [fossil-users] Missing timeline graph above 36 timeline items (?!)

2015-03-16 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richie Adler on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:53:34 -0300: JavaScript issue? Disabled NoScript and for more security restarted Firefox with no extensions enabled. Same thing. I wonder if perhaps some cross-site scripting blocking tool is blocking it? Andy -- TAI64 timestamp:

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-16 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said David Mason on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:35:51 -0400: Does the server fossil know the version number of the client fossil on a clone? Or could it ask? If so, it could do what Andy suggests. Not currently. The client version is not currently exchanged during cloning. The only piece of

Re: [fossil-users] Is this a crazy idea?

2015-03-19 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Abilio Marques on Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:25:05 -0430: By doing git commit -a, your doing an implicit git add -A before the commit, which stages all the uncommitted changes, and then you're working close to what you would in fossil. I see, this is totally foreign to how I use

Re: [fossil-users] Is this a crazy idea?

2015-03-19 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Abilio Marques on Thu, 19 Mar 2015 19:22:14 -0430: Having said these things, I must confess that in my mind, I find the staging area a difference that's not easily solved. Perhaps some of you have thought about this before, and have ideas on how to simulate it in a clean way.

Re: [fossil-users] Is this a crazy idea?

2015-03-19 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Abilio Marques on Thu, 19 Mar 2015 22:10:41 -0430: git commit -a or git commit filename, you're skipping the staging area. Yes, that's right---thanks to your explanation. I haven't needed it and now that I understand it (at least according what has been discussed) I'm

Re: [fossil-users] Is this a crazy idea?

2015-03-19 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Abilio Marques on Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:08:55 -0430: (1) modify a file or files (2) add the files (every single time... this sucks sometimes, as Joerg said) (3) commit I'm not sure what (2) is unless you mean that I create new files in the working checkout and then use ``git add''

Re: [fossil-users] Is this a crazy idea?

2015-03-19 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Abilio Marques on Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:29:28 -0430: As a side note, one of the reasons I dislike git is because the commands don't do (do as in never) what their name imply, and some are hidden as subcommands inside commands that are meant for other purposes. You mean

Re: [fossil-users] Select specific changes within files

2015-03-20 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Abilio Marques on Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:58:33 -0430: Then I start to work in a new feature, and I add 10 functions (I will only show one here). Now that you know about it, can the start of a new feature also involve another fossil open of the repository for said feature? Thanks,

Re: [fossil-users] Select specific changes within files

2015-03-20 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:04:44 -0400: (1) Make logically separate changes in separate check-outs so that they are easy to test and commit separately. I think this ability to have multiple checkouts of the same repository is a much more elegant solution, but it does

Re: [fossil-users] Select specific changes within files

2015-03-20 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Ron W on Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:19:58 -0400: Never too late to stash. If I decide I need to split out changes already made, I stash the files, then do fossil stash gdiff to selectively (re) apply the stashed changes, then build/test/commit. gdiff allows you to selectively

Re: [fossil-users] Select specific changes within files

2015-03-20 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Marcel Graf on Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:30:11 +0100: Imho, the missing piece would be stash having means to do partial stashing (finer than on file-by-file base). This the would allow to do these splittings of a mixed up check-outs a bit easier (including testing before committing,

Re: [fossil-users] Select specific changes within files

2015-03-20 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Ron W on Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:56:51 -0400: I've never seen a non-gui, interactive merge, so I don't know how feasible to create such a tool Here's a non-gui, interactive merge (I didn't show it, but there is also an edit command which invokes $EDITOR on just the chunk in

Re: [fossil-users] older link on user check-ins

2015-03-21 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said jungle Boogie on Sat, 21 Mar 2015 12:15:50 -0700: Would it be very hard to add the Older link to the original URL?: https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline?u=drhc=2015-03-21+16%3A42%3A10ndn=200 It's actually supposed to be there, but because the number is 101 entries,

[fossil-users] Problem with left aligned buttons in skins?

2015-03-21 Thread Andy Bradford
Hello, I'm not sure if I'm the only one bothered by the left alignment of the buttons in some of the skins... For example, navigate to: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline Then, after clicking Older, the Newer button shows up to the left, thus causing the Older button to shift to

Re: [fossil-users] older link on user check-ins

2015-03-21 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said jungle Boogie on Sat, 21 Mar 2015 15:47:54 -0700: Yes, this is the case for me, too. Didn't think about ui mode! Will you please give the following change a try: https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/ced021fd57ac2bac It won't work on that website until Fossil is updated there,

Re: [fossil-users] same port in use by concurrent fossil instances

2015-03-19 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Tontyna on Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:58:40 +0100: Starting several fossil servers with ui increments port from 8080 onwards. Starting several fossil servers with server increments port ditto. Mixing ui and server instances results in double-bound ports. Don't know whether that's a

Re: [fossil-users] Timeline graph display options

2015-03-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Mon, 09 Mar 2015 23:06:59 -0400: Which timeline graph do you prefer: (1) https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/timeline?y=cinomo=0 (2) https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/timeline?y=cinomo=1 (1) because the relationship to the node from which the arrow originates is more

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity Version control

2015-03-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Andy Goth on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:56:43 -0500: anonymous does have some privileges not inherited from nobody (hmncz) anonymous doesn't have z by default. No, but nobody does: https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/68ce0bcf6269988e Maybe what he really meant was that any user

Re: [fossil-users] How to fix parallel timeline

2015-03-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:56:41 -0400: That's an processing artifact of the graph generator. The 198f28add5 check-in references some parent a09a968bf05 which is not in the tree, so the graph generator just draws a line off the bottom of the page, not knowing what else

Re: [fossil-users] How to fix parallel timeline

2015-03-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said David Mason on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:17:57 -0400: But I'm back. I could imagine one student doing some weird thing, but not a score of them with the same outcome. The directions were as I posted (without the bits in red). I would virtually guarantee that *none* of the

Re: [fossil-users] How to fix parallel timeline

2015-03-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:48:04 -0400: I'm still curious as to how the students managed to get the repo into this state, too. This is possible if you open a repository using the --empty command line option. Basically, what you end up with when you do this are two DAGs in

Re: [fossil-users] How to fix parallel timeline

2015-03-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said David Mason on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 11:07:11 -0400: I have several students who, through some problem while cloning the fossil I created for them, created a parallel timeline. (see screenshot) Do you create the intial repository for the students? If so, do you initialize

Re: [fossil-users] RFC regarding short UUID for some command line use.

2015-03-07 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Joe Mistachkin on Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:05:48 -0800: Personally, I agree. I find having the abbreviated UUID displayed in this particular context to be quite disconcerting. What about some of the other command line checkin contexts that were changed in [c62e94f8a3]: $ fossil

[fossil-users] RFC regarding short UUID for some command line use.

2015-03-07 Thread Andy Bradford
Hello, There have recently been some changes to make short UUIDs more prominent, however, I think that new checkins should still display the full UUID: $ fossil ci -m test New_Version: 36eb94ea54 vs $ fossil ci -m test New_version: 36eb94ea547e5905b41e6b447efbfd1184311b23 I think

Re: [fossil-users] missing initial empty check-in repository from import

2015-03-13 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Jan Nijtmans on Fri, 13 Mar 2015 16:28:47 +0100: Another way to trigger the 'problem' is using fossil reconstruct. This function reconstructs the repository from artifacts on disk, it is very unlikely that the initial empty checkin is encountered as first artifact and

Re: [fossil-users] missing initial empty check-in repository from import

2015-03-13 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Jan Nijtmans on Fri, 13 Mar 2015 16:28:47 +0100: Another way to trigger the 'problem' is using fossil reconstruct. This function reconstructs the repository from artifacts on disk, it is very unlikely that the initial empty checkin is encountered as first artifact and

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Sat, 14 Mar 2015 00:05:07 -0400: Am I wrong to think that clicking through the changes in a project (not necessarily from the beginning, but from some signification event, say the most recent release) in chronological order is something that people

Re: [fossil-users] Timeline graph display options

2015-03-10 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Mon, 09 Mar 2015 23:52:16 -0400: Oh, it does. Try a graph with n=all and you'll see. When you start to get a lot of rails, and the graph gets all scrunched together, then (2) is clearly better. The question is should we go with (2) always, or use (1) for graphs

Re: [fossil-users] How to fix parallel timeline

2015-03-12 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Tontyna on Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:40:32 +0100: 1. Created a repo with Fossil 1.30 2. Switched to Fossil 1.27 3. clone/open worked without warning BTW: open produced a _FOSSIL_ but the local reposirory was empty, i.e no checked-out files at all According to David's

Re: [fossil-users] How to fix parallel timeline

2015-03-13 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Tontyna on Fri, 13 Mar 2015 13:12:25 +0100: A tricky SQL statement could probably create the required records... While no content was lost, the relationship appears to have been lost, which is why the timeline cannot figure out how to draw it. Specifically, the problem appears

Re: [fossil-users] How to fix parallel timeline

2015-03-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said David Mason on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:17:57 -0400: Does that help at all? I tried these steps with Fossil from trunk and saw the files when I opened the Fossil. Any chance you could make up a test fossil using the above mentioned steps (and a fake student/user and TA) in

Re: [fossil-users] How to fix parallel timeline

2015-03-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:32:18 -0400: Brainstorming... Maybe something like this occurred: (1) Copy the original repository file into xyz.fossil (2) run fossil open xyz.fossil (3) Copy a revised version of the repository over top of xyz.fossil (4) run

Re: [fossil-users] some confusion with fossil users

2015-03-25 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:42:26 +0100: Something chiselapp-specific, apparently independent of the fossil user's name (i would have expected it to set up toiboi as the fossil user, but i have never used chiselapp). I believe toiboi is just the sync user that is

Re: [fossil-users] some confusion with fossil users

2015-03-25 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Ben on Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:39:12 +0100: https://toi...@chiselapp.com/user/toiboi/repository/robot If you login to the UI on this URL, what Fossil users do you have there? Iassume at least one of them will be toiboi. This user is the sync user. But what exactly *is* the

Re: [fossil-users] using fossil server --repolist behind nginx proxy

2015-03-29 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Dewey Hylton on Sun, 29 Mar 2015 10:03:29 -0400: so ... is there a way to accomplish this without using cgi? am i on the right track? what am i missing? Given that you're using nginx as a proxy, perhaps you need to add --baseurl to the fossil server options? Andyk --

[fossil-users] Strange sbsdiff display

2015-03-27 Thread Andy Bradford
Hello, While working with some data, I ran into a change in the data that the sbsdiff doesn't seem to handle very well (either that or my understanding of how it works is wrong). If I commit both complete files (file revision 1, followed by file revision 2), the sbsdiff

Re: [fossil-users] New timeline display options

2015-03-31 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Matt Welland on Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:08:49 -0700: +1 circular nodes, +1 colored lines, seemed to make visually tracking the branch easier to my eyes. but as Brad said, a matter of style. Definitely a matter of style. While I think both are pretty, I prefer black edges (the nodes

Re: [fossil-users] Error: wrong project

2015-03-28 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Joe Knapka on Sat, 28 Mar 2015 09:54:35 -0600: Laptop A: 1.32 [5811ecd7cc] This version has a correction made to it here that you probably need: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline?c=14b8475598268f3a Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 40005516da62

Re: [fossil-users] Error: wrong project

2015-03-28 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Joe Knapka on Sat, 28 Mar 2015 09:19:57 -0600: I went back to LaptopA and did fossil update, only to receive the message: Error: wrong project Any idea what might be happening here? This will happen if the sync was attempted against a different Fossil project. Each Fossil

Re: [fossil-users] (no subject)

2015-02-28 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Michai Ramakers on Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:44:59 +0100: I'll pick this one up. Did you mean to change the actual option-names too? My vote is to leave checkin without the dash, and after a bit of sed, Knuth would agree: lynx --dump http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/email.html

Re: [fossil-users] Cannot set 'autosync' and fossil ignores http_proxy

2015-03-04 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 08:13:23 -0500: 2) fossil ignores 'http_proxy' but honors 'proxy' settings if set manually strace shows that fossil hangs on sendto(-1, ...) I don't understand the problem statement here. And I don't have a proxy at hand for testing so I

Re: [fossil-users] Cannot set 'autosync' and fossil ignores http_proxy

2015-03-05 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Alexandr Smolnikov on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:06:25 +0500: 2) fossil ignores 'http_proxy' but honors 'proxy' settings if set manually strace shows that fossil hangs on sendto(-1, ...) All that happened after [32f8da0ce7] check-in http_proxy appears to be honored just fine for me

Re: [fossil-users] (no subject)

2015-02-28 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said jungle Boogie on Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:17:15 -0800: Can this be updated to check-in as we are graduating from checkin? This is the first time I've heard anything about ``graduating from checkin.'' Why? What purpose can making such a change serve? Especially where command

Re: [fossil-users] Tags and unhide

2015-02-25 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Gaurav M. Bhandarkar on Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:07:08 +0530: if a branch is marked as closed, it is (by default) hidden Oh, I think I understood the significance of unhide. Thanks for explaining. Unless I have missed something, closing a branch does not hide the branch.

Re: [fossil-users] auth failure with fossil server

2015-02-23 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Oliver Friedrich on Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:17:35 +: Nowmy problemis, ifI connectto arepo via http://my.dyn.dns:8080/myrepo I am able to log in as userA. But if I do a logout, and try to log in as userB, it always refuses the logon and claims that

Re: [fossil-users] Strange sbsdiff display

2015-03-27 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 05:49:47 -0400: Indeed. The heuristic used in this case is probably https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/artifact/117b008502a5?ln=1005-1013 Yes, that was it. If I increase this number to 100 it handles it just fine (actually it started working

Re: [fossil-users] strangeness

2015-03-27 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said j. van den hoff on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:37:32 +0100: In a couple of years using fossil I have never encountered something like this. any ideas what might be going on here? The only time I've seen Fossil due inexplicable things like this is when I had recently updated and

Re: [fossil-users] strangeness

2015-03-27 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said j. van den hoff on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 20:37:37 +0100: in any case problem no. 2 is more irritating. I have no idea how fossil could accept the checkin locally without propagating the checkin to the remote url despite 'autosync on' and without throwing an error... Yes,

Re: [fossil-users] Problem on windows sync

2015-03-26 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said David Mason on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:42:41 -0400: 6) Subsequent sync does same think - after her command prompt has been printed. Does ``fossil sync'' work? Also, to get more verbose output from Fossil, you can do: fossil sync --sshtrace Thanks, Andy -- TAI64 timestamp:

Re: [fossil-users] Problem on windows sync

2015-03-26 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said David Mason on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:42:41 -0400: 5) then commit she got Unable to write to standard output: The pipe is being closed. on the autosync part. It sounds like something with the SSH connection failed but didn't get output. Does plink have any debug options that can

Re: [fossil-users] Cannot set 'autosync' and fossil ignores http_proxy

2015-03-05 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Alexandr Smolnikov on Fri, 06 Mar 2015 09:31:29 +0500: http_proxy appears to be honored just fine for me with [998af5b2a8]. Can you provide more details about what is not working? Maybe it's meaningless now :) Yeah, unfortunately I sent off my email before I saw your previous

Re: [fossil-users] {fossil-users] symbolic name tags

2015-03-23 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Tontyna on Mon, 23 Mar 2015 23:44:18 +0100: Reading /www/branching.wiki I stumbled upon the paragraph explainig symbolic name tags starting with *sym-* being special. Maybe some clarification is in order here. This is specifically referring to the manifest (I think). If

Re: [fossil-users] IPV6 Support

2015-04-02 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Oliver Friedrich on Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:56:38 -: 1. The part on invoking a cgi-server with the zIpAddr parameter specified is not tested, since I cannot figure out when this is used. However, it zIpAddr is an ipv4 string (e.g. 127.0.0.1) it will be converted to

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