Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread George Herbert
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Geoffrey Plourde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who wants to go poke Mugabe, maybe we will get even more money? I appreciate the motivation, but please let's not go there. The possible issues have some rather serious downsides, ranging from "WMF not being seen as

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Who wants to go poke Mugabe, maybe we will get even more money? From: Robert Rohde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:22:21 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Robert Rohde
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:02 AM, David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/16 Ian A. Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> This isn't the first time the German chapter has had an interim injunction >> issued against them[2], but everytime the matter has been resolved in a >> professional manner

Re: [Foundation-l] List Syndication Service reboot

2008-11-16 Thread phoebe ayers
Note: I keep calling this the List Syndication Service, but it's actually the List *Summary* Service :) Syndicated summaries Just a note that I posted summaries of October's Foundation-L archives, in two parts: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS/foundation-l-archives And did the last two week

Re: [Foundation-l] Explanation related to the license migration needed

2008-11-16 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> BTW, I am not the only person who is working on the site, but it is a >> very small group of people and editing is not open to the world. > > In that case, you can just get explicit permission from each of them > to do wha

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Ian A. Holton
BTW, reading the comments on the donations shows nicely the main motivation for donating suddenly: * Against censorship * Against the former Stasi * To benefit the growth of free knowledge Ian On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Ian A. Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have any statistic

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Ian A. Holton
I don't have any statistics, but I would say the http://www.wikipedia.de is the most common way of accessing Wikipedia in Germany. Ian [[User:Poeloq]] On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > 26 thousand Euro in the last 40 hours. Normal figures appear to be >

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs status/news?

2008-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The Hebrew language community has a really outstanding record when it comes to localisation; both the MediaWiki messages and the messages used in extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation are completely localised at this moment. This requires dedication that brings a big benefit to its commu

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs status/news?

2008-11-16 Thread Dovi Jacobs
Gerard wrote: "Given that it is important for the editors to understand what is intended with Flagged Revisions. I would argue that localisation prior to implementation is essential." I would like to remind Gerard that the requests for FlaggedRevs are based on the consensus of live wiki communit

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
> 26 thousand Euro in the last 40 hours. Normal figures appear to be > 3000 EUR per day. That's quite impressive. I wonder whether there is > an actual net gain. Do we have statistics on how many people actually access the German Wikipedia via the wikipedia.de domain? If it's not many, then there'

Re: [Foundation-l] Explanation related to the license migration needed

2008-11-16 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:05 PM, David Claughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Milos Rancic wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Since you could delete the GFDL-only version and remake it as a dual >>> licensed version after the switchover (assuming

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:04 PM, David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/16 David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Donations to WMDE are apparently coming in very fast because of this: >> http://wiwowo.blogspot.com/2008/11/internet-cannot-be-censured.html >> I'm reluctant to advocate upse

Re: [Foundation-l] Explanation related to the license migration needed

2008-11-16 Thread David Claughton
Milos Rancic wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Since you could delete the GFDL-only version and remake it as a dual >> licensed version after the switchover (assuming we do switchover), I >> can't see how there could a problem. (Assuming you are t

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread David Gerard
2008/11/16 David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Donations to WMDE are apparently coming in very fast because of this: > http://wiwowo.blogspot.com/2008/11/internet-cannot-be-censured.html > I'm reluctant to advocate upset politicians as a fundraising tool, but ... Here's the list. Dig the comment

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread David Gerard
2008/11/16 Ian A. Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This isn't the first time the German chapter has had an interim injunction > issued against them[2], but everytime the matter has been resolved in a > professional manner and the media have been very pro-Wiki.[3][4] > [2] http://www.toytowngermany.co

Re: [Foundation-l] Explanation related to the license migration needed

2008-11-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
> BTW, I am not the only person who is working on the site, but it is a > very small group of people and editing is not open to the world. In that case, you can just get explicit permission from each of them to do whatever it is you need to do, so there shouldn't be a problem. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Explanation related to the license migration needed

2008-11-16 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since you could delete the GFDL-only version and remake it as a dual > licensed version after the switchover (assuming we do switchover), I > can't see how there could a problem. (Assuming you are the only person > to modif

Re: [Foundation-l] Explanation related to the license migration needed

2008-11-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/11/16 Milos Rancic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am making now one site (about pseudoscience) which I want to > double-license, so materials may be used in the future at Wikipedia. > As it is my site, I may make whichever, partial licensing, but I > realized that there is one very stupid problem fo

[Foundation-l] Explanation related to the license migration needed

2008-11-16 Thread Milos Rancic
I am making now one site (about pseudoscience) which I want to double-license, so materials may be used in the future at Wikipedia. As it is my site, I may make whichever, partial licensing, but I realized that there is one very stupid problem for which I think that answer exists, but I would like

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs status/news?

2008-11-16 Thread Bence Damokos
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Gerard Meijssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hoi, > When you look at the Hungarian statistics at Betawiki, Hungarian is doing > quite well with 99.76% done for the MediaWiki messages and 73.33% of the > messages ussed in Wikimedia projects. As I indicated, Flagged R

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs status/news?

2008-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you look at the Hungarian statistics at Betawiki, Hungarian is doing quite well with 99.76% done for the MediaWiki messages and 73.33% of the messages ussed in Wikimedia projects. As I indicated, Flagged Revisions is at 89,36%. When you have localised the messages on a local server, you

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs status/news?

2008-11-16 Thread Bence Damokos
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Gerard Meijssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hoi, > I think it makes sense to have functionality like FlaggedRevs be localised > prior to it being enabled. Given that it is important for the editors to > understand what is intended with Flagged Revisions. I would ar

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs status/news?

2008-11-16 Thread Ian A. Holton
I am quite suprised that somebody is actually localizing this into Classical Chinese / Literary Chinese. Ian [[User:Poeloq]] On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Gerard Meijssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Hoi, > I think it makes sense to have functionality like FlaggedRevs be localised > prior t

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Ian A. Holton
The controversy was about mentioning his past in the former East German Stasi - something he had not told the truth about to the general public during the election (according to the Wikipedia article and the sources named, which amongst others is Der Spiegel). The information, and sources, seem all

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs status/news?

2008-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I think it makes sense to have functionality like FlaggedRevs be localised prior to it being enabled. Given that it is important for the editors to understand what is intended with Flagged Revisions. I would argue that localisation prior to implementation is essential. I do appreciate discussi

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
for the interested: *Keine weiteren juristischen Schritte gegen Wikipedia* : http://www.lutz-heilmann.info/ 2008/11/16 Magnus Manske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Bryan Tong Minh > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apparently the German portal on wikipedia.de has been shut d

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Magnus Manske
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Bryan Tong Minh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apparently the German portal on wikipedia.de has been shut down after > a legal case. Is there any more information on this? > http://www.wikipedia.de/ Apparently, some German communist politician was angry about somethi

[Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Apparently the German portal on wikipedia.de has been shut down after a legal case. Is there any more information on this? http://www.wikipedia.de/ Bryan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] List Syndication Service reboot

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
who! 2008/11/16 phoebe ayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi ya'll, > > You may remember way that back in mid-2006 user:Improv started up the > List Syndication Service: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS > > This was an ongoing weekly summary of the mailing lists, particularly > Foundation-L. It

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
It doesn't really matter what was on their mind, even though I also disagree on what is on their mind. It matters that the discussion has been broken open, and that it will be on the agenda of the commission and after that the parliament. If it is on the agenda, it is time for a little lobby and tr

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
nonsense. There are (small list): * Creative Commons, dozens of chapters * Wikimedia, several chapters * Free Knowledge institute * Open Office * Several Linux organisations * Actually *any* organisation that makes on a large scale freely licensed manuals etc * Open Streetmap * Several libraries (

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
Hi all, Thanks for sharing this. Wikimedia Nederland is working on a reaction which has been draft-translated into English as well. We were invited by the Dutch ministry of legal affairs to give our view on this green paper, to be taken into account for the national government reaction. We have do

[Foundation-l] List Syndication Service reboot

2008-11-16 Thread phoebe ayers
Hi ya'll, You may remember way that back in mid-2006 user:Improv started up the List Syndication Service: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS This was an ongoing weekly summary of the mailing lists, particularly Foundation-L. It was carried on for a good while by Improv and was then taken on by Bi