Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, That is not how things are. Against the protest of some the mo.wikipedia was locked. The request was not for locking but for complete removal. The notion that just because some people want to edit a wiki in any linguistic entity they can have their project is flatly wrong. There are

Re: [Foundation-l] Trademarks

2008-11-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
Geoffrey Plourde wrote: No what is wrong with wikipedia brand dog food (provided that we receive a cut?)? We just need to hope it's not a cut with melamine. Ec ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

[Foundation-l] Offline Reader

2008-11-27 Thread Martin Pascal
Dear all, We are working for a new version of Kiwix, the offline reader wich used for http://wikipediaondvd.com/ . This new version don't use a selection of article , is available from the project : wikibooks, wikipedia, wikiquote, wikisource, wiktionary for all the languages. To try :

Re: [Foundation-l] Trouble in Ireland

2008-11-27 Thread David Gerard
2008/11/27 Geoffrey Plourde [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If we could get something that reads the searches and tabulates the most frequently not found articles, we could better target our account creation efforts. Hence my suggestion on wikitech-l :-) Logging referers as well as the name of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread David Gerard
2008/11/27 Geoffrey Plourde [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Preserve History, Donate Now! Preserve History, Buy Us A Better Backup Infrastructure! - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Signal languages Wikimedia projects

2008-11-27 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Gerard Meijssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same arguments that apply to people who speak languages like Yoruba and Sango apply to any of the sign languages.. People who are deaf and sign are better served when equal information is available in their sign

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Gerard Meijssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoi, That is not how things are. Against the protest of some the mo.wikipedia was locked. The request was not for locking but for complete removal. The notion that just because some people want to edit a wiki in any

Re: [Foundation-l] Signal languages Wikimedia projects

2008-11-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The same arguments that apply to people who speak languages like Yoruba and Sango apply to any of the sign languages.. People who are deaf and sign are better served when equal information is available in their sign language. When people are motivated to work on their wikipedia, they do this

Re: [Foundation-l] Trademarks

2008-11-27 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
But melamine adds texture. Plus then who else can say bringing the sum of all low grade dog food to dogs everywhere From: Ray Saintonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Have you dealt with this yet? If so,how?

2008-11-27 Thread Foundation-l list admin
-- Forwarded message -- From: dee dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:14 PM Subject: Have you dealt with this yet? If so,how? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the overall project ( Wikimedia Foundation) may have substantial responsibility and negative exposure in

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Reregarding the list http://blog.wikimedia.org/2008/11/25/wikimedias-fundraiser-which-banners-click/ So the phrase Wikipedia is a non-profit projecthttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Edu_Notice_2008_1.pnghad rather poor results. Maybe because it contains two words that sound negative to many

[Foundation-l] List statistics for Novemeber

2008-11-27 Thread Milos Rancic
Here are foundation-l list statistics for the end of November. (Sorry for HTML email, it was the only way known to me to format stats well for all.) Statistics are at the bottom. == Good news == * If we get one more new participant at foundation-l, we will at the highest level of new

Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas de Souza Buckup
Geoffrey, Here are some answers to your questions: *1. why the chapter is still not legally organized?* Since October, a legal entity could have already been created with the approved bylaws, but I personally didn't push this forward because a discussion about another version of the bylaws

Re: [Foundation-l] List statistics for Novemeber

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
* At last, we are communicating and the most of discussions are constructive. Lower amount of emails for 10-20% is reasonable if quality of discussion is higher. That's not a statistic, that's an opinion... ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] List statistics for Novemeber

2008-11-27 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * At last, we are communicating and the most of discussions are constructive. Lower amount of emails for 10-20% is reasonable if quality of discussion is higher. That's not a statistic, that's an opinion... Yes. I

Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians

2008-11-27 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Thomas; Thank you for your answers to my questions. I was under the impression that the chapter had been approved in February, but I must have been wrong. Since a Brazilian lawyer has cleared the bylaws, I have no further legal concerns. Am I correct in assuming now that we have a big

Re: [Foundation-l] Signal languages Wikimedia projects

2008-11-27 Thread Marcus Buck
Andre Engels hett schreven: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Marcus Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andre Engels hett schreven: nd this configuration does make sense, in my opinion. If we have a hypothetical language with one million oral speakers, but only a handful of people able to

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread David Gerard
2008/11/27 Ziko van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the phrase Wikipedia is a non-profit projecthttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Edu_Notice_2008_1.pnghad rather poor results. Maybe because it contains two words that sound negative to many people, non and profit, and maybe many people do not

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
Wikipedia is a charity ? People always say non-profit when describing WMF, is it a charity? The two terms are different. (In the UK, the WMF would probably be considered charitable, I don't know what the requirements are in the US.) ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread David Gerard
2008/11/27 Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia is a charity ? People always say non-profit when describing WMF, is it a charity? The two terms are different. (In the UK, the WMF would probably be considered charitable, I don't know what the requirements are in the US.) The bottom

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/11/27 David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/11/27 Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia is a charity ? People always say non-profit when describing WMF, is it a charity? The two terms are different. (In the UK, the WMF would probably be considered charitable, I don't know what the

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/27 David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/11/27 Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia is a charity ? People always say non-profit when describing WMF, is it a charity? The two terms are different. (In the UK,

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread Phil Nash
Robert Rohde wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/27 David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/11/27 Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia is a charity ? People always say non-profit when describing WMF, is it a charity? The two terms are

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread Ziko van Dijk
It's not about a legal definition for WMF, but what words use in front of the greater public. To Germans I would not translate charity to karitativ, because that sounds like feeding orphans.:-) The point is to make people do to something, play on their emotions, trigger their helpfulness. Explain

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread David Gerard
2008/11/27 Robert Rohde [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, in fact, wikimediafoundation.org says nonprofit charitable organization. I don't know why people generally say non-profit instead of charity, then - charity would be more

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread Lars Aronsson
Thomas Dalton wrote: Wikipedia is a charity ? People always say non-profit when describing WMF, is it a charity? Instead of these endless discussions on which phrases to use, I think we should rely on the recently posted statistics on which amounts of donations each phrase generated. We

Re: [Foundation-l] Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

2008-11-27 Thread Aphaia
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/27 David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/11/27 Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wikipedia is a charity ? People always say non-profit when describing WMF, is it a charity? The two terms are different. (In the UK,