Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is this rule; ignore all rules. There is a point to it. Particularly in situations where an injustice is likely to happen, the blind following of rules can be quite inhuman and at best an excuse for not thinking through consequences and accepting responisibility. When people are brave

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Andre you make a good case why ignore all rules must be used carefully. People express the opinion that Iran is the enemy and by inference Iranians cannot be trusted. This is a great example of an opinion that is detrimental to our projects. In my opinion we need an Iranian chapter as much as

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Williamson
So we don't believe in freedom of expression? When somebody in a position of authority abuses that power and discriminates, yes, their power should be removed and possibly they should be blocked. But in the case of someone saying I vote no because this person is black, their vote should just be

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If people want to express themselves in a discriminatory way, they can do soelsewhere. When people vote against someone with the motivation that the person is black, then indeed we are better off without him. I am all in favour of freedom of expression, but this is not a debating club.

Re: [Foundation-l] History splitting (main namespace)

2009-02-13 Thread Nemo_bis
Platonides, 13/02/2009 12:20: I really recommend against it. Stewards can delete big pages (and perform oversights there if needed). Actually we use that procedure only for help and project pages (village pump, help desk, etc.). Nemo ___

Re: [Foundation-l] A kind of organisation for transnational Wikipedias

2009-02-13 Thread Nemo_bis
Just a (useless?) reminder: all projects are language-based, all chapters are state-based. Nemo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] History splitting (main namespace)

2009-02-13 Thread Lars Aronsson
Emanuele Casadio wrote: This would be a great idea but, wait a minute... will this procedure be GFDL-compliant? When we renamed [[en:Angola/History]] to [[en:History of Angola]] (after it was decided that subpages was a bad idea), we copied the text, because back then there was no way to

Re: [Foundation-l] History splitting (main namespace)

2009-02-13 Thread James Forrester
2009/2/13 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se: When we renamed [[en:Angola/History]] to [[en:History of Angola]] (after it was decided that subpages was a bad idea), we copied the text, because back then there was no way to rename a page. In the revision history, it looks as if I (user:LA2)

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-13 Thread Ray Saintonge
geni wrote: 2009/2/9 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: The real danger is that stewards have access to global checkuser, so they can theoretically be used to trace users when forced by secret police of an non-democratic country. However, various special forces and secret services of

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are valid reasons why you might be against this candidate. However, when arguments are used that you *can not* agree with, you should speak and motivate your vote. The alternative is that people think an unacceptable position is yours. Thanks, GerardM 2009/2/13 Ray Saintonge

[Foundation-l] Wikibooks community-building meeting

2009-02-13 Thread Mike.lifeguard
I've been thinking some about community-building in Wikibooks - I think it's among one of the more important tasks we need to face. To get the ball rolling somewhat, Whiteknight and I were tossing around some ideas earlier - one that we agreed on was that having a meeting to get wider input and