Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread emijrp
My question: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Purodhadiff=prevoldid=261483386 His answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Purodhadiff=nextoldid=261483386 Przykuta escribió: Hi look at ksh wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/23 emijrp emi...@gmail.com: My question: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Purodhadiff=prevoldid=261483386 His answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Purodhadiff=nextoldid=261483386 Seems sensible. The only real disadvantage is that it messes up

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/23 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com: I think we should find a way to exclude redirs from depth stats. Just define non-articles to mean pages outside the main namespace. Lots of redirects, disambig pages and stubs does not indicate greater collaboration, so I'm not sure why there were

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing transition: opposing points of view

2009-03-23 Thread Sue Gardner
2009/3/22 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: Sue Gardner wrote: I've been meaning to reply in this thread to what Jussi said. (Sorry to not reply inline; I'm on my Blackberry.) First of all, can I ask as a favor that you never again refer to me as Jussi. Jussi is my grandpa. I

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Marcus Buck
Mark Williamson hett schreven: I think we should find a way to exclude redirs from depth stats. Redirects _are_ a sign of depth. Well, _meaningful_ redirects of course. But there's no automatic way to distinguish meaningful and less meaningful redirects. And that's the main problem of the

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Mark Williamson
To me, this indicates a problem with the metrics used to calculate depth. skype: node.ue 2009/3/23 Marcus Buck m...@marcusbuck.org: Mark Williamson hett schreven: I think we should find a way to exclude redirs from depth stats. Redirects _are_ a sign of depth. Well, _meaningful_ redirects

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: To me, this indicates a problem with the metrics used to calculate depth. I'd say it indicates not that the depth calculations need to be tweaked, but that they are intrinsically inaccurate and not meaningful and

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Mark Williamson
There are many situations in which it could be useful to have a way to quantify the quality, rather than just number of articles, of a Wikipedia edition. If the whole formula is flawed, we should find a better one. Mark 2009/3/23 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Mark

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/23 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com: There are many situations in which it could be useful to have a way to quantify the quality, rather than just number of articles, of a Wikipedia edition. If the whole formula is flawed, we should find a better one. Step one: Define quality. If you

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing transition: opposing points of view

2009-03-23 Thread Nathan
Introducing the terms of service, or anything other than the license itself, confuses it for me too. The questions it brings to my mind are: 1) Which controls attribution, the license or the TOS? 2) For importation, which determines compatibility - the license or the TOS of the original site (if

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Monday 23 March 2009 20:00:06 Thomas Dalton написа: 2009/3/23 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com: There are many situations in which it could be useful to have a way to quantify the quality, rather than just number of articles, of a Wikipedia edition. If the whole formula is flawed, we

[Foundation-l] Publishers trying to close access to NIH-funded research

2009-03-23 Thread David Gerard
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/03/23/protect_our_access_to_medical_research/ Can the Foundation officially put in any words towards openness? - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] depth

2009-03-23 Thread Michael Peel
Perhaps a better thing to quantify is the usefulness, rather than the quality? That is, ask the people reading and using articles how useful the article has been to them? Or, more generally, ask them to rate articles on a scale of 1 to N, where N is e.g. 5. By doing that, you can learn

[Foundation-l] Greek Wikinews Proposal

2009-03-23 Thread Crazy Lover
Hi. For GerardM, Pathoschild or another langcom member. Can someone of you make a unofficial analysis page of this proposal? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Greek Thanks a lot. C.m.l. ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Greek Wikinews Proposal

2009-03-23 Thread Jesse (Pathoschild)
Crazy Lover always_yours.fore...@yahoo.com wrote: For GerardM, Pathoschild or another langcom member. Can someone of you make a unofficial analysis page of this proposal? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Greek Done. -- Yours cordially, Jesse

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing transition: opposing points of view

2009-03-23 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Nathan nawr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing transition: opposing points of view To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:47 PM Introducing the terms

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome to Fred Vassard!

2009-03-23 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/23 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: He'll be helping us out with operations, monitoring, and documentation of our servers, making sure everything's running smoothly and improving our responses to and anticipation of problems. Fantastic! Just what we've been needing. Welcome aboard!

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome to Fred Vassard!

2009-03-23 Thread John Doe
what be is IRC nick so we know who to poke when servers crash :) On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/3/23 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: He'll be helping us out with operations, monitoring, and documentation of our servers, making sure

[Foundation-l] Board position statement

2009-03-23 Thread Michael Snow
As Sue has mentioned, the board earlier agreed on a statement regarding the license transition, which is as follows: The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation invites the Wikimedia community to vote on this proposal to license Wikimedia material so it is available under the Creative