Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Parul Vora wrote: Thanks for all of the feedback, comments, and support. I just wanted to let you know that our full report (including highlight videos!!) is now up our the Usability Initiative's project wiki: http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/UX_and_Usability_Study It may be too late

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2009/5/8 Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu: I am wary of this: Users often missed the ‘edit’ buttons next to each section, clicking on ‘edit this page’ all the way at the top. In my experience, users do exactly the opposite, and I have seen new users who know how to edit sections asking how

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Delirium
Brian wrote: Quite frankly the advice that you should only use five subjects makes no sense. The appeal to Nielsen's authority is not going to work on me or anyone else who understands why the scientific method exists. It's unscientific thinking and it's going cause to you waste money. You're

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread geni
2009/5/8 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu: I will have no part in your efforts to redefine the scientific method on its talk page. Fortunately you don't need to. People who have put far more effort into the subject than you are ever likely to do so have pretty much shot apart the idea of a

[Foundation-l] A qualitative study on usability with n=1 |Re: Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, the results Parul and the team shared with us touched some frustrating memories of mine. I often found it difficult to explain to Wikipedians how hard it is to edit, and that we should consider to modify some of the MediaWiki. A couple of years ago I had a usability test of my own, when

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Brian
Ok, I'll agree that the motiviations and size of this pilot study are reasonable. Then I'd just like to know how much money was spent getting these answers. If you're not planning to measure the subjects scientifically and you just want to figure out what the big issues are then the premise of

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Nathan
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: You don't have to be an expert (more formally defined as someone with ten years of experience in a field) to spot unscientific thinking. I don't think you're an expert either so maybe you should just leave expertise out

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Brian
Really, I admit that? Where. On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: You don't have to be an expert (more formally defined as someone with ten years of experience in a field) to spot

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu wrote: Parul Vora wrote: Thanks for all of the feedback, comments, and support. I just wanted to let you know that our full report (including highlight videos!!) is now up our the Usability Initiative's project wiki:

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: Quite frankly the advice that you should only use five subjects makes no sense. The appeal to Nielsen's authority is not going to work on me or anyone else who understands why the scientific method exists. Experience shows

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Brion Vibber
El 5/7/09 5:36 PM, geni escribió: 2009/5/8 Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu: This usability study is so tiny. I want MediaWiki to be really, really good. Please tell me you guys hope to go large scale with the remote testing setup. Nit just mediawiki. Looks like we need to improve the paths

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability Study Results (Sneak Preview)

2009-05-08 Thread Brion Vibber
El 5/8/09 9:21 PM, phoebe ayers escribió: About this: on en:wp, at least, under user preferences/gadgets, users can turn this on themselves by clicking the Add an [edit] link for the lead section of a page box. Is there any particular reason not to turn this on by default for everyone? Could

Re: [Foundation-l] Stategic planning : Sharing textbook knowledge

2009-05-08 Thread Samuel Klein
david gerard writes: No, no. All wikiprojects could be merged into *Wikibooks* if one were so inclined. The encyclopedia is clearly only one book in the library, it's just by far the biggest one. Indeed. Or into Wiktionary, since it's all just a matter of defining in detail various keywords,