Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread geni
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com: So, not having known that 3,000 square feet was the sum total of the current WMF space on Stillman, my original but unpublished hunch was correct. Given how spectacularly incorrect your published accusations were that's a pretty pathetic defense. Are

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com: Geni wrote: ++ Given how spectacularly incorrect your published accusations were that's a pretty pathetic defense. Are you going to apologise? -- geni ++ I reported that the Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to sub-let space that

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread geni
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com: I reported that the Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to sub-let space that it itself is renting. I have an e-mail from the property management firm confirming the Wikimedia sublease. Erik Moeller has confirmed that the Foundation is seeking to

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Gregory Kohs
Geni wrote: ++ Given how spectacularly incorrect your published accusations were that's a pretty pathetic defense. Are you going to apologise? -- geni ++ I reported that the Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to sub-let space that it itself is renting. I have an e-mail from the

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Yann Forget
Gregory Kohs wrote: Consider me a Leslie Stahl, circa 1972. We should stop feeding the troll, especially this particular species of novice self-made spy. Yann -- http://www.non-violence.org/ | Site collaboratif sur la non-violence http://www.forget-me.net/ | Alternatives sur le Net

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com: Which accusations do you speak of? That's curious, considering they had outgrown space in January 2009, such that they needed to shuttle Ruth and Frank Stanton's money

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: WMF is swimming in surplus floor space? Well, yeah, that's been confirmed actually. They have 11000 sq ft, plus 3000 sq ft, plus whatever they have at Wikia, and they only need the 11000 sq ft. Maybe they haven't moved in on the

[Foundation-l] Be nice

2009-09-05 Thread Lodewijk
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Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Austin Hair
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Gregory Kohsthekoh...@gmail.com wrote: When the Watergate story broke, it was felt to be a largely contained story. Leslie Stahl once commented, **CBS sent me. It was a measure of how unimportant CBS thought the story was in the beginning. As more information

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/5 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com: Which accusations do you speak of? That's curious, considering they had outgrown space in January 2009, such that they needed to

Re: [Foundation-l] Be nice

2009-09-05 Thread Paul Williams
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Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Its a serious charge that is difficult to prove. The publicly released financial statements are too general in nature to be useful. The only way to prove/disprove this allegation and head off others is for the Foundation to become more transparent. It is natural for people to come to

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
The best way to end this in the future is to give the community a brief heads up along the line of Hey y'all, we will be moving to NEW ADDRESS effective DATE This lets us know beforehand that the business address is going to change, and allows the Foundation to leverage moving support from SF

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/5 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com: Its a serious charge that is difficult to prove. The publicly released financial statements are too general in nature to be useful. The only way to prove/disprove this allegation and head off others is for the Foundation to become more

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Nathan
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Geoffrey Plourdegeo.p...@yahoo.com wrote: The plan may have been mentioned ages ago, but a press release about the move would have eliminated the opportunity for trolling. They haven't moved yet. I bet we can safely let this topic drop, though. Nathan

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/6 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com: The plan may have been mentioned ages ago, but a press release about the move would have eliminated the opportunity for trolling. Why would the press be interested in the WMF putting the offices they are about to move out of on the market? The move

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread geni
2009/9/6 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/9/6 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com: The plan may have been mentioned ages ago, but a press release about the move would have eliminated the opportunity for trolling. Why would the press be interested in the WMF putting the offices

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: A plan to move isn't worthy of a press release - it would only cover a single sentence (The WMF has more staff than it has room for desks, so it is planning to move to new, larger offices.). Is that all they have, a

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: A plan to move isn't worthy of a press release - it would only cover a single sentence (The WMF has more staff than it has room for desks, so it is planning to move to new, larger

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: A plan to move isn't worthy of a press release - it would only cover a single sentence (The WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Correct, I meant announcement not press release. Announcing this move by placing a blurb on the foundation site, asking for assistance on the sf list, and letting the signpost know all would have headed this discussion off From: geni geni...@gmail.com To: