Sage Ross wrote:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Domas Mituzasmidom.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Gerard,
Remember, the Signpost is an en.wp publication. It is not really the
place
to announce such things.
it is up for Signpost editors if they want to include it or not. Not
your
Thomas Dalton wrote:
2009/9/7 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com:
Is it possible to keep my proposal intact and address those issues?
Yes. Just put (This will allow your image to be used on Wikipedia)
next to the CC-BY-SA option.
This would suffer from exactly the same problem.
Hoi,
The one reason why I read the Signpost is because it posts a table of
contents on a blog that is aggregated. grin Advertisement works, it gets
it more readers /grin
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/9/8 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net
Sage Ross wrote:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Domas
Sage Ross wrote:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
If someone write a piece of music and releases it under a CC-BY-SA
license, they can also allow uses under other conditions. Now assume
that you hear that music in some TV advert is the advert CC-BY-SA? Not
Reminder: Strategic Planning office hours will happen at:
04:00-05:00 UTC, Wednesday, Sept 9.
That is:
Tuesday, 9-10pm PDT
Wednesday, 12am-1am EDT
We'll meet in the channel #wikimedia-strategy on IRC. More details
are available at http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours
We will
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:07 AM, wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
The last time someone just said 'Creative Commons license' on one of my
pics they were linking back to the flickr page which has the CC license
link. Now most dont bother saying CC though they do link back to the
flickr
Hello,
We wanted to have a more informal forum for discussing Wikimedia
issues with Board members, so the three new Wikimedia Trustees (Arne,
Matt, and myself) are hosting an open meeting on IRC in #wikimedia
this Friday.
Where : #wikimedia
When : Friday September 11, 1800-1900 UTC
On 8 Sep 2009, at 18:46, Samuel J Klein wrote:
Hello,
We wanted to have a more informal forum for discussing Wikimedia
issues with Board members, so the three new Wikimedia Trustees (Arne,
Matt, and myself) are hosting an open meeting on IRC in #wikimedia
this Friday.
Where : #wikimedia
Hello Mike,
Great idea! I hope that this is the first of many. I'd love to
attend, but won't be able to at that time. Will logs/minutes of the
meeting be made available after the event?
Yes, minutes will be available. I'm thinking of announcing in the
channel before and after for people who
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Samuel J Kleins...@wikimedia.org wrote:
[snip]
Speaking of which, I'm also looking for someone to organize the
minutes. [NB: you don't have to be present during the chat to do
this.] Again, pls contact me off-list.
Doesn't the board have a role designated to
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Samuel J Kleins...@wikimedia.org wrote:
[snip]
Speaking of which, I'm also looking for someone to organize the
minutes. [NB: you don't have to be present during the chat to do
this.] Again, pls contact me off-list.
Doesn't
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Michael Snowwikipe...@verizon.net wrote:
It does, but this is not an official meeting for the board to conduct
business, it's a meeting to provide people in the community with a
chance to have a discussion with the new board members. As such, I'm not
sure it's
2009/9/8 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
I don't know what these laws are, but my first guess is that the foundation
doesn't plan to actually hire anyone who responds to the ad, but must post
the ad in order to conform to
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Mike Godwin mgod...@wikimedia.org wrote:
sfmammamia writes:
A bit of a mystery -- in Sunday's San Francisco Chronicle, page E-8,
there's
an ad for the Wikimedia Foundation Head of Communications position. This
ad
does not appear online, at least I
sfmammamia writes:
A bit of a mystery -- in Sunday's San Francisco Chronicle, page E-8,
there's
an ad for the Wikimedia Foundation Head of Communications position. This ad
does not appear online, at least I could not find a companion posting,
either on the foundation site or on Yahoo (the
2009/9/7 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:42 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
That would describe the person who started this thread, who has stated
elsewhere that anything whatsoever he does on any WMF site is only for
the purpose of trolling.
Was that the
The question isn't Is there more we could do? because there most
certainly is. The question is Is there more we want to do? We need
to decide what really is the scope of the Wikimedia movement. We never
really made that decision before starting the existing projects and
just started any project
2009/9/8 Pedro Sanchez pdsanc...@gmail.com:
Geographical/atlas/map kind ofproject
granted, there's wikimapia and other external equivalents
but we (Wikimedia) are lacking it
Is there any point us doing something that already exists? What would
be better about a Wikimedia version?
On 9/8/09 3:56 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
2009/9/8 Pedro Sanchezpdsanc...@gmail.com:
Geographical/atlas/map kind ofproject
granted, there's wikimapia and other external equivalents
but we (Wikimedia) are lacking it
Is there any point us doing something that already exists? What would
be
Thanks for bringing this up, Mike. I think WikiReview sounds like a
great idea, WikiJournal sounds like it would suffer from a number of
very serious flaws, WikiWrite could be interesting, and that there are
probably a number of other project ideas that are equally interesting
but not necessarily
On 2 Sep 2009, at 12:35, David Goodman wrote:
There is sufficient missing material in every Wikipedia, sufficient
lack of coverage of areas outside the primary language zone and in
earlier periods, sufficient unsourced material; sufficient need for
updating articles, sufficient potentially
In the thread WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Austin Hairadh...@gmail.com wrote:
(to Gregory Kohs)
[snip]
I've placed you on indefinite
moderation with the goal of improving the signal:crazy ratio.
With something like 40 posts made to that thread after
Michael Peel wrote:
[cut]
** A few of my favourite examples: WikiJournal, publishing scholarly
works;
These works are welcomed on Wikisource, if they are under a free
license, of course.
WikiReview, providing in-depth reviews of subjects;
I think this can be hosted on Wikibooks or
Software programs (including smartphone apps), products (with UPC codes),
companies, organizations, restaurants, movies, books, video games, web
sites, libraries, elementary schools, points of interest. All the things
removed from Wikipedia by those mean old deletionists. Original research.
But
2009/9/8 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
As such, it's time to try something different.
What do you suggest? Are there models from other mailing list
communities that we should experiment with to create a healthier, more
productive discussion culture? What, based on your own experience of
on 9/8/09 8:18 PM, Nathan at nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think that this sort of moderation has been common in the
past, but I think the moderation of Greg Kohs went a bit far - and for
the reasons outlined by Greg Maxwell.
Nathan
I agree with you, Nathan. And I also agree with Mr.
+1
On 2009-09-09, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
In the thread WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Austin Hairadh...@gmail.com wrote:
(to Gregory Kohs)
[snip]
I've placed you on indefinite
moderation with the goal of improving the signal:crazy
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2009/9/8 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:
What could be the cause of this recent dearth of new projects?
Certainly the process for getting a new project underway is so complex
and exhausting that it's not something that
2009/9/8 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:
What could be the cause of this recent dearth of new projects?
Certainly the process for getting a new project underway is so complex
and exhausting that it's not something that many people will be likely
to engage in - especially considering that
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Yann Forgety...@forget-me.net wrote:
Michael Peel wrote:
[cut]
** A few of my favourite examples: WikiJournal, publishing scholarly
works;
These works are welcomed on Wikisource, if they are under a free
license, of course.
And if they are beyond the scope
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
I propose expanding the notion of the Wikimedia Incubator to include
entirely new projects that are very, very easy to create. They don't need to
be approved by the WMF - they just need to demonstrate their value by
--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com
Subject: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:05 PM
In the thread WMF seeking to
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Erik Moeller wrote:
Certainly the process for getting a new project underway is so complex
and exhausting that it's not something that many people will be likely
to engage in
Another issue is that all our projects use the MediaWiki platform (and
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd prefer that moderation of this list be used as a last resort to
maintain civil discourse and not as a tool to impose an external view
of the desired traffic volume and especially not in a way which could
be construed
2009/9/8 Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com:
In Buenos Aires I had multiple people ask (even practically beg) me to
do something about foundation-l. One person said fucking moderate
foundation-l, already!—to which I explained why I didn't think that
moderating individuals was a solution, but had
Report to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
Covering: June 2009
Prepared by:Sue Gardner, Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation
Prepared for: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
MILESTONES FROM JUNE
1. Finalization and approval of the 2009-10 Annual
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote:
I've created http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Improving_Foundation-l for
brainstorming of how to make this list a little bit less of a
cesspool.
Austin, your page says nothing about the kinds of conversations you would
like to
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
Austin, your page says nothing about the kinds of conversations you would
like to see on foundation-l.
You're right, it doesn't. I don't see it as my place to dictate, and
I'm looking for most of the input to come from
Sorry for top-posting, Brian. (I'm walking home, am on my Blackberry.)
I don't feel super-comfortable posting on behalf of the staff, but I think it's
fair to say that some of the staff are a little afraid to engage on
foundation-l --- it can be intimidating, especially for new people. I think
John Vandenberg wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
I propose expanding the notion of the Wikimedia Incubator to include
entirely new projects that are very, very easy to create. They don't need to
be approved by the WMF - they just need to
On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Tim Starling wrote:
I think we should stop using this outdated technology altogether and
instead switch to a web-based forum, where comments can be
postmoderated (i.e. removed after posting), and unproductive threads
can be moved or locked.
+me - and I would
Erik Moeller wrote:
2009/9/8 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
As such, it's time to try something different.
What do you suggest? Are there models from other mailing list
communities that we should experiment with to create a healthier, more
productive discussion culture? What, based on
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I think we should stop using this outdated technology altogether and
instead switch to a web-based forum, where comments can be
postmoderated (i.e. removed after posting), and unproductive threads
can be moved or
Austin Hair extended me the courtesy of taking me out of the moderated
posting queue.
In light of my recent blogging gaffe (though amended the same day my error
was confirmed), I look forward to continuing my message of pressing for
ethical and professional non-profit governance, with a tone and
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Austin Hairadh...@gmail.com wrote:
I've created http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Improving_Foundation-l for
brainstorming of how to make this list a little bit less of a
cesspool. Please feel free to ignore the initial thoughts I banged
out as a starting point
2009/9/8 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
Some of us feel
that the foundation has become out of our reach. That no matter how much we
discuss and try to reach consensus it will just be too hard, or there will
be a lack of interest in our consensus at the foundation, for any real
change to
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